The Energon Pub

I can't help feeling that in gaining articulation over the years, we have lost the playsets, and extras we came to enjoy in Generation One toys..

Generation One extras lost, Hasbro will not produce in the future:

Prime's trailer

Megatron's extra attachements, nerf gun attachments would just be a slap in the face..

Ironhide's Trailer

Ratchet's Trailer

Giant transforming Bases

chrome coloring

workable diecast, frames and other parts that would add to the toy, instead when Hasbro did Titaniums, they went and did solid chunks, instead of just parts here and there..

Ball and chains and energon axes

Triple Changers ( with the exception of the "Animated prototype" I have yet to see a real triple changer, whose body actually is 3 different altmodes.. Cybertron Megatron doesn't count..

deluxe-sized headmasters and targetmasters. no, minicons don't count.

skywarp-2 wrote:Megatron's extra attachements, nerf gun attachments would just be a slap in the face..

Tidal Wave and Nemesis Breaker.

skywarp-2 wrote:Giant transforming Bases

Not really true...

Omega Supreme (Energon) transformed into massive vehicles for minicons. Prime, both Armada and Energon did the same. Actually, so did Primus and Unicron.

skywarp-2 wrote:chrome coloring

Thank Jesus.

skywarp-2 wrote:workable diecast, frames and other parts that would add to the toy, instead when Hasbro did Titaniums, they went and did solid chunks, instead of just parts here and there..

Again, thank Jesus. All plastic is the way these toys should really be.

skywarp-2 wrote:Ball and chains and energon axes

Very very wrong. What did every Energon Omnicon come with? Energon Spears, blades, axes, etc.

skywarp-2 wrote:Triple Changers ( with the exception of the "Animated prototype" I have yet to see a real triple changer, whose body actually is 3 different altmodes.. Cybertron Megatron doesn't count..

Energon Scorponok. Classics Astrotrain. (Hey, there weren't that many G1 triple changers either!)

zemper wrote:deluxe-sized headmasters and targetmasters. no, minicons don't count.

Why don't Minicons that turn into weapons count as Targetmasters? Certainly, they're not Targetmasters in name but isn't their functionality the same? I don't see much difference between Triggerhappy's use of Blowpipe and Vector Prime's use of Safeguard.

Leonardo wrote:I don't see much difference between Triggerhappy's use of Blowpipe and Vector Prime's use of Safeguard.

Neither did Triggerhappy.

Now he has AIDS.

Leonardo wrote:

zemper wrote:deluxe-sized headmasters and targetmasters. no, minicons don't count.

Why don't Minicons that turn into weapons count as Targetmasters? Certainly, they're not Targetmasters in name but isn't their functionality the same? I don't see much difference between Triggerhappy's use of Blowpipe and Vector Prime's use of Safeguard.

i mean Targetmasters marketed as a subline - minicons don't really count IMHO because these guys weren't actually marketed as a weapon for their respective partner, more like gimmicks that activate features in the toy.

though you have a point there, Vector Prime and others are exceptional homages to this G1 subline.

and before CP beats me to a punch ,

E. Omega Supreme and Overload both are technically headmasters - but we need to see voyager- and smaller-sized versions of these cool toys.

Robot points - I want 'em back to mess with MISB collectors ... and square packaging that you can actually stack easily would be nice again.

Didn't I read that there were rumours of a base or playset when animated comes out?

zemper wrote:and before CP beats me to a punch ,

E. Omega Supreme and Overload both are technically headmasters - but we need to see voyager- and smaller-sized versions of these cool toys.

Technically... they're Japanese style Headmasters. Omega Supreme and Overload are actually the Minicons which become their heads.

skywarp-2 wrote:Triple Changers ( with the exception of the "Animated prototype" I have yet to see a real triple changer, whose body actually is 3 different altmodes.. Cybertron Megatron doesn't count..

Does G1 Springer count? What's the difference between a 'real' Triple Changer and an 'unreal' one?

Anyway, I agree we could do with a few more bases to carry on the legacy of Metroplex and Fortress Maximus. Another 2-foot Transformer, please!

Built-in tech spec meters!

Counterpunch wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:Triple Changers ( with the exception of the "Animated prototype" I have yet to see a real triple changer, whose body actually is 3 different altmodes.. Cybertron Megatron doesn't count..

Energon Scorponok. Classics Astrotrain. (Hey, there weren't that many G1 triple changers either!)

Classics Astrontrain sure. Scorpanok, Cyb. Megatron, etc., I have a hard time counting them as triple changers. I know they have three different modes, but I'm with skywarp-2: 3 different modes, not a robot mode, one vehicle mode, and then another vehicle mode that is a slight alteration of the first. G1 Blitzwing, sure, all you did was turn him over and make a few modifications, but jet and tank modes looked different enough to be two different vehicle modes. Cyb. Megatron, which I do love, looks like a car of some sort and then a car of some sort with a split front end meant to now serve as jet parts.

Dagon wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:Triple Changers ( with the exception of the "Animated prototype" I have yet to see a real triple changer, whose body actually is 3 different altmodes.. Cybertron Megatron doesn't count..

Energon Scorponok. Classics Astrotrain. (Hey, there weren't that many G1 triple changers either!)

Classics Astrontrain sure. Scorpanok, Cyb. Megatron, etc., I have a hard time counting them as triple changers. I know they have three different modes, but I'm with skywarp-2: 3 different modes, not a robot mode, one vehicle mode, and then another vehicle mode that is a slight alteration of the first. G1 Blitzwing, sure, all you did was turn him over and make a few modifications, but jet and tank modes looked different enough to be two different vehicle modes. Cyb. Megatron, which I do love, looks like a car of some sort and then a car of some sort with a split front end meant to now serve as jet parts.

...but I didn't include Megatron.

Scorponok is pretty distinct. Bot, Ship, Scorpion.

Counterpunch wrote:

Dagon wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:Triple Changers ( with the exception of the "Animated prototype" I have yet to see a real triple changer, whose body actually is 3 different altmodes.. Cybertron Megatron doesn't count..

Energon Scorponok. Classics Astrotrain. (Hey, there weren't that many G1 triple changers either!)

Classics Astrontrain sure. Scorpanok, Cyb. Megatron, etc., I have a hard time counting them as triple changers. I know they have three different modes, but I'm with skywarp-2: 3 different modes, not a robot mode, one vehicle mode, and then another vehicle mode that is a slight alteration of the first. G1 Blitzwing, sure, all you did was turn him over and make a few modifications, but jet and tank modes looked different enough to be two different vehicle modes. Cyb. Megatron, which I do love, looks like a car of some sort and then a car of some sort with a split front end meant to now serve as jet parts.

...but I didn't include Megatron.

Scorponok is pretty distinct. Bot, Ship, Scorpion.

I know, but he is an example of a modern day 'triple' changer. Hell, you can have one robot with like 16 modes, I don't care. The more modes the better (RID Galvatron!). I would just like to see a real triple changer, is that so wrong? Won't someone please stop the insanity!?!?!?!!?

Yeah, but sorry, I misquoted you. You didn't mention Megatron.

I repeat!

GetterDragun wrote:I repeat!

Hey everyone, I think Getter's trying to tell us something.....

Dagon wrote:

GetterDragun wrote:I repeat!

Hey everyone, I think Getter's trying to tell us something.....

I would totally discriminate against anyone with an 'Intelligence' rank of less than 6.

Counterpunch wrote:

Dagon wrote:

GetterDragun wrote:I repeat!

Hey everyone, I think Getter's trying to tell us something.....

I would totally discriminate against anyone with an 'Intelligence' rank of less than 6.

You could probably do that too. I doubt, with Cybertronians being a race more advanced than ours afterall, that Cybertronian law would be so biased towards keeping the stupid ignorant of their stupidity.

Dagon wrote:You could probably do that too. I doubt, with Cybertronians being a race more advanced than ours afterall, that Cybertronian law would be so biased towards keeping the stupid ignorant of their stupidity.

"Hey Moronicon, Let's see those tech specs!"

"no ways guys yur just gonna make fun of me cuz U kno I got a 4 for smarts. u all R lamerz!1!"

"Anyone want to beat this guy up? I'd do it, but apparently I'm a pussy with a 3 for strength."

"I didn't know that scores came less than 4. You really are a pussy. I'll hit him. I have a 9 for strength. It's just going to take a while...only a 4 for speed and all..."

Counterpunch wrote:

Dagon wrote:You could probably do that too. I doubt, with Cybertronians being a race more advanced than ours afterall, that Cybertronian law would be so biased towards keeping the stupid ignorant of their stupidity.

"Hey Moronicon, Let's see those tech specs!"

"no ways guys yur just gonna make fun of me cuz U kno I got a 4 for smarts. u all R lamerz!1!"

"Anyone want to beat this guy up? I'd do it, but apparently I'm a pussy with a 3 for strength."

"I didn't know that scores came less than 4. You really are a pussy. I'll hit him. I have a 9 for strength. It's just going to take a while...only a 4 for speed and all..."

"Hey you, level 4....yeah you! I use my 8 rank points to order you to stand still long enough for mr. strenght 9/speed 4 to hit you."

*other random robot turns to random robot #3* "Boy, I;m glad he didn't call me out.....I only have 2 for courage..."

I know the tech specs weren't this involved....I just wanted to get a piece of the action. Now I'll probably get banned.

Dagon wrote:

GetterDragun wrote:I repeat!

Hey everyone, I think Getter's trying to tell us something.....

What? What is it boy? Is Snapdragon stuck in the well again?

Dagon wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Dagon wrote:You could probably do that too. I doubt, with Cybertronians being a race more advanced than ours afterall, that Cybertronian law would be so biased towards keeping the stupid ignorant of their stupidity.

"Hey Moronicon, Let's see those tech specs!"

"no ways guys yur just gonna make fun of me cuz U kno I got a 4 for smarts. u all R lamerz!1!"

"Anyone want to beat this guy up? I'd do it, but apparently I'm a pussy with a 3 for strength."

"I didn't know that scores came less than 4. You really are a pussy. I'll hit him. I have a 9 for strength. It's just going to take a while...only a 4 for speed and all..."

"Hey you, level 4....yeah you! I use my 8 rank points to order you to stand still long enough for mr. strenght 9/speed 4 to hit you."

*other random robot turns to random robot #3* "Boy, I;m glad he didn't call me out.....I only have 2 for courage..."

I know the tech specs weren't this involved....I just wanted to get a piece of the action. Now I'll probably get banned.

"We need to find some one with all 10's!"

"Look Cerberus has all 10's!, Cerberus, transform and prepare for battle!"

*Insert transforming noise for Cerberus*

"Cerberus, all 10's and you just transform into a Generator?"

"Sorry guys, it's not really my tech spec, I'm just carrying it for Fortress Maximus, and I'm not just a Generator, I'm also a Head."

"Cerebrus, what's next, you gonna turn into something else lame-ass, or maybe another appendage for FM?!"

"Shut up guys."

GetterDragun wrote:

Dagon wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Dagon wrote:You could probably do that too. I doubt, with Cybertronians being a race more advanced than ours afterall, that Cybertronian law would be so biased towards keeping the stupid ignorant of their stupidity.

"Hey Moronicon, Let's see those tech specs!"

"no ways guys yur just gonna make fun of me cuz U kno I got a 4 for smarts. u all R lamerz!1!"

"Anyone want to beat this guy up? I'd do it, but apparently I'm a pussy with a 3 for strength."

"I didn't know that scores came less than 4. You really are a pussy. I'll hit him. I have a 9 for strength. It's just going to take a while...only a 4 for speed and all..."

"Hey you, level 4....yeah you! I use my 8 rank points to order you to stand still long enough for mr. strenght 9/speed 4 to hit you."

*other random robot turns to random robot #3* "Boy, I;m glad he didn't call me out.....I only have 2 for courage..."

I know the tech specs weren't this involved....I just wanted to get a piece of the action. Now I'll probably get banned.

"We need to find some one with all 10's!"

"Look Cerberus has all 10's!, Cerberus, transform and prepare for battle!"

*Insert transforming noise for Cerberus*

"Cerberus, all 10's and you just transform into a Generator?"

"Sorry guys, it's not really my tech spec, I'm just carrying it for Fortress Maximus, and I'm not just a Generator, I'm also a Head."

"Cerebrus, what's next, you gonna turn into something else lame-ass, or maybe another appendage for FM?!"

"Shut up guys."

Then Prime comes in and yells at everyone for making fun of Cerberus.

"It's not his fault he has the lamest alternate mode of all time..."

Cerberus runs from the room crying.

I want put that whole quote for that story in my sig, but then I'll have to send myself a warning for signature size!

GetterDragun wrote:I want put that whole quote for that story in my sig, but then I'll have to send myself a warning for signature size!

but wouldn't it be worth it.

You could always just "play stupid" like the rest of us

Dagon wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Dagon wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:Triple Changers ( with the exception of the "Animated prototype" I have yet to see a real triple changer, whose body actually is 3 different altmodes.. Cybertron Megatron doesn't count..

Energon Scorponok. Classics Astrotrain. (Hey, there weren't that many G1 triple changers either!)

Classics Astrontrain sure. Scorpanok, Cyb. Megatron, etc., I have a hard time counting them as triple changers. I know they have three different modes, but I'm with skywarp-2: 3 different modes, not a robot mode, one vehicle mode, and then another vehicle mode that is a slight alteration of the first. G1 Blitzwing, sure, all you did was turn him over and make a few modifications, but jet and tank modes looked different enough to be two different vehicle modes. Cyb. Megatron, which I do love, looks like a car of some sort and then a car of some sort with a split front end meant to now serve as jet parts.

...but I didn't include Megatron.

Scorponok is pretty distinct. Bot, Ship, Scorpion.

I know, but he is an example of a modern day 'triple' changer. Hell, you can have one robot with like 16 modes, I don't care. The more modes the better (RID Galvatron!). I would just like to see a real triple changer, is that so wrong? Won't someone please stop the insanity!?!?!?!!?

Yeah, but sorry, I misquoted you. You didn't mention Megatron.

What about soon to be Classics 2.0/ Universe OCTANE?!?!

I wouldn't quite call that "lost".

Cassette bots, now those are long gone, as a cassette is NOT going to blend in anymore.