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Ebay auctions using Seibertron gallery picture
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Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:51 pmby Collector Maximus
This is the first time I noticed this.
just wanted to let people know.
I found an auction for an Optimal Optimus in which the seller utilizes a picture from seibertron's gallery.
It's funny cause the guy stresses the buyer to look at the picture carefully.
here is a link.
Well he does have another picture of the toy but it is misleading because of the seibertron pic.
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Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:56 pmby Leonardo
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Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:02 pmby Collector Maximus
in this one the guy cut out the seibertron.com logo.
Now that is misleading. Those are clearly seibertron pics.
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Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:06 pmby Leonardo
Collector Maximus wrote:in this one the guy cut out the seibertron.com logo.
Now that is misleading. Those are clearly seibertron pics.
I've actually bought from these people. It only took 2 days for the item to turn up (I paid on a Sunday), which is the fastest shipping I've ever had on Ebay.
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Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:53 pmby Maldroth
What can you say Ryan has some of the best images around, shame they didn't ask for permission to use them however.
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Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:31 pmby Burn
I think Ryan wants to be told about such things, I know i've dropped him pm's in the past when i've found auctions using his pics and he gets onto them about it as they are using them without his permission.
Plus it's pretty slack that people utilise pictures from someone else and not actual pictures of what they're selling.
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Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:22 pmby Cyber Bishop
Two more ebay sellers I have to email about this.
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Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:10 pmby Lapse Of Reason
I've sold on eBay using links to
http://www.seibertron.com's galeries in the past but wouldn't stoop so low as to actualy post his pictures in the auction listing to pass it off as my own. What I've done is more like, "see more pictures of how awesome this figure is on this website ... " and then linked to the main photo gallery page for that figure.
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Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:54 amby Wing Zero Custom
Ah, I remember what Remy of TFkenkon did. A picture of one of his galleries got direct linked in a ebay auction, so Remy replaced it with pictures of very hideous looking fat girls.
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Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:21 amby Redimus
Wing Zero Custom wrote:Ah, I remember what Remy of TFkenkon did. A picture of one of his galleries got direct linked in a ebay auction, so Remy replaced it with pictures of very hideous looking fat girls.
lol, that's genious!
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Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:14 amby Bonger
Having just taken a law class on this 2 semesters ago, I'm pretty sure using Ryan's images is illegal.
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Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:50 amby muswp1
No, it is illegal. Those pictures are technically Ryan's property and they can't be used without his permission. Now if they did contact Ryan about it or just used links to the pictures then that would be fine, but they can't use his pictures and just cut his logo off of them.
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Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:56 amby GetterDragun
That photo is linked. Ryan should replace that image with that famous photo of the girl in the tub as a good joke.
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Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:12 amby Chosen
GetterDragun wrote:That photo is linked. Ryan should replace that image with that famous photo of the girl in the tub as a good joke.
As moronic and wrong as stealing these pics for an auction can be, tubgirl is not and never will be a "good joke."
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Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:16 amby Bonger
Chosen wrote:GetterDragun wrote:That photo is linked. Ryan should replace that image with that famous photo of the girl in the tub as a good joke.
As moronic and wrong as stealing these pics for an auction can be, tubgirl is not and never will be a "good joke."
I dunno, maybe mildly amusing?
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Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:49 amby MegaDave
I dont think the megatron auction pictures are misleading as it is an auction for a transformer mint in the box therefore i can see the sellers desire to show more of the features of the toy than yo would see from the outside of the box.
However the optimal optimus auction apears to be a loose figure therefore you would expect the pictures representing it to be the actual figure you get and using any other source material is misleading.
I think it was wrong that the images were used without permission in both cases tho i feel that using stock images for anything but an misb figure is potentially misleading and worse for both the buyer and the owner of the images.
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Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:55 amby Seibertron
Collector Maximus wrote:in this one the guy cut out the seibertron.com logo.
Now that is misleading. Those are clearly seibertron pics.
I just sent that guy a message asking him to stop using the images without the watermark. There's not much I can do if they leave the watermark but it irks me when they just take the photos without giving credit.
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Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:57 amby Agamemnon
Chosen wrote:GetterDragun wrote:That photo is linked. Ryan should replace that image with that famous photo of the girl in the tub as a good joke.
As moronic and wrong as stealing these pics for an auction can be, tubgirl is not and never will be a "good joke."
goatse maybe?
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Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:58 amby Seibertron
muswp1 wrote:No, it is illegal. Those pictures are technically Ryan's property and they can't be used without his permission. Now if they did contact Ryan about it or just used links to the pictures then that would be fine, but they can't use his pictures and just cut his logo off of them.
The pictures I post on this website are able to be used elsewhere as long as people aren't just outright stealing entire galleries. Fair use to me is reusing the images and either providing a text link and/or keeping the watermark on the images. A lot of the images that I post in the galleries I hope that people will use as signatures or avatars or whatever so I don't have a problem with people using the images. I just like to get a little credit ... that's all.
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Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:41 pmby Bonger
Sue him in small claims. This is covered by Intellectual Property Law if I recall. I'll break out my books tonight and pull up the exact laws that cover this and the applicable fines .
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Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:38 pmby Basketball Jones
I'm not entirely certain he can trademark the images- they are photographs of Hasbro products.
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Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:46 amby Seibertron
Bonger wrote:Sue him in small claims. This is covered by Intellectual Property Law if I recall. I'll break out my books tonight and pull up the exact laws that cover this and the applicable fines .
Yeah, I'm not a lawsuit happy guy. While we might not like what he's doing, it's certainly not the end of the world. I've certainly had worse things happen to me before. I do appreciate you watching my back though.
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Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:52 amby Gutsman Heavy
when ever I sell TFs I link to the seibertron gallery ie; "Check out more pictures of this awesome figure at Seibertrons gallery here" with the appropriate link I hope thats ok, but if it isn't I wont link in future auctions.
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Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:37 pmby Canned Pasta
Found another one that is using the pics and removing the watermarks:
http://cgi.ebay.com/TRANSFORMERS-MASTER ... dZViewItem
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Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:05 amby Burn
Found another guy!
http://search.ebay.com.au/_W0QQsassZlawrancepspQQhtZ-1Though he left the watermark intact.