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Cybertron Smokescreen

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:29 am
by mechajol
Known as a liar, a cheater, and a compulsive gambler, G1 Smokescreen was then a repaint of Prowl and Bluestreak, and transformed into a rallye version of the Datsun Fairlady Z.

Released in the Binaltech line, Smokescreen lost the familiar red and blue paint scheme to adapt the Subaru Rally car colors - which is well and good, except that I still miss the old G1 look.

Then, believe it or not, I recently saw a picture of Cybertron Smokescreen. This homage sports the familiar G1 colors, but this time he now transforms into a Bugatti Veyron, and instead of a liar, cheater, and compulsive gambler, Smokescreen is now a practical joker.

I also noticed that Cybertron Smokescreen's head can be easily modified to resemble the old G1 design. Hmmm... instant classics Smokescreen? The hunt is on.

Reviews of the toy have been favorable, with only the negative points raised being the difficulty of transformation. Cybertron Smokescreen also looks too top-heavy, and those thin, short legs don't exactly raise optimism when it comes to stability, but what the hell, he's a Bugatti Veyron now, damnit! The coolest, most expensive sports car as of this writing!

As luck would have it, I finally got me one of these...

CAR MODE

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Superb. That should say it all. This toy faithfully captures the look and stance of the Bugatti Veyron.

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Solid to the feel, stable on the surface, sporty and fast even when standing still. This mode has the earmarks of a great deluxe car!

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And just how do you make this car mode better? Add the spoiler/weapon!

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You can attach the flame to the weapon/spoiler ala-classics Rodimus, but I'm not a fan of this. Looks ridiculous.

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Being a fan of the actual Bugatti Veyron, I can say that this is the best plastic toy replica available!

But wait, there's more!

Attach the planet key and...

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...a pair of rocket launchers spring forward! Truly, the sheer awesomeness of car mode has left me in a deep state of disbelief, shock, and tears.

Then, I started transforming it into robot mode...


ROBOT MODE

Transforming Smokescreen to robot mode is a bit difficult, particularly the rear quarter panels of the vehicle which is prone to detach from its ball joints when moved. The ball-jointed arms don't make things easier, and the non-detachable roof/shield adds fuel to frustration.

After minutes of pulling, tugging, and accidentally detaching parts, here's what we end up with.

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90% of the car is now housed in the upper body, with the remaining 10% forming the thin legs. Despite the size, the legs do a good job of holding a standing position and a few good poses. Try to do something dynamic, and the sheer weight of the body bulk will make Smokescreen topple.

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Smokescreen's robot mode also has lots of kibble, the most irritating being the car doors that attach to the shoulders and do nothing but limit his arm movements and clutter the over-all look of the robot. the door sills also complicates things.

Attaching the planet key still activates the missile launchers, adding a more G1-esque look to this homage.
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But i'm sure whatever the gain in firepower and strength, Smokescreen wouldn't normally approve sticking anything up his, errr, exhaust port. But then, this is war, and in war, everyone has to sacrifice something for victory...

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ROBOT OR CAR?

CAR MODE! Less disappointments, less frustration, less headaches!

After transforming Smokescreen into robot mode, I tried going back to car mode and found the process very very frustrating! Never in my life have I wanted to slap a toy designer so badly!

The main problem is the fitting issues of the arms and the roof, and the hood. All of these are dependent on the position of the arms, which are ball-jointed.

While not necessarily bad, the problem of the balljoint application here is that without ratcheting points or clicks, it's very difficult to pinpoint the correct postion and angle for everything to fit in snugly.

Compare this for example with Classic Bumblebee's arms which are also ball-jointed. Tucking this under in car mode, some parts of the toy serve as guides so you know how to correctly fold the arms. simply speaking, in robot mode, BB's arms can move freely in any angle because of the balljoints, but in car mode, there is only one way for it to correctly fold, with only little room of movement, so you easily know what you're doing wrong, and when you're doing it.

With Cybertron Smokescreen, there are no references, and no guides. The manual is no help, and the fact that the roof/shield can't detach from the arm only fuels my rage.

What I ended up with, after minutes of tweaking, is a Bugatti Veyron with gaps and fitting issues on the doors, roof, and front fenders.

It is such a shame that for a very solid and excellent car mode, someone had to mess it up with crazy balljoint arm angles.


PROS

- good homage to G1
- excellent color scheme
- excellent car mode
- robot mode grows to you


CONS

- stupid ball joint arms!
- stupid non-detachable roof/shield!
- a bit top-heavy
- lotsa kibbles
- frustrating to transform from robot to car


RATING

3 out of 5

This toy would have scored higher, really. I love this. But the arms and non-detachable shield killed the fun factor. The only thing saving this toy from a lower rating is the excellent car mode.

Re: Cybertron Smokescreen

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:42 pm
by Overcracker
You now now how those of us who went out and bought the original Cybertron Crosswise version of this mold feel.

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The car looks really good. The Robot mode is not too bad, (mines a little loose at the hips, so he can't hold any poses outside of standing)

But ohh my god the transformation to and from. just gets on my nerves. I agree he is really difficult to get back into car mode. And the rear car sections just pop off every time I try to separate them to go from car to robot. Its ridiculous. Still looks nice all in black as Crosswise

BTW, this mold has now been repainted into Walmart Exclusive Movie All Spark Power Jolt.

Re: Cybertron Smokescreen

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:49 pm
by Valandar
I actually kinda like the Crosswise/Smokescreen mold. But then again, I also wish there was some way to pop the rear fenders off the side of the vehicle, and pop them on the shins... wouldn't mind a little parts-forming for balance reasons.

Re: Cybertron Smokescreen

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:16 pm
by Redimus
Meh it reminded me I still havnt gotten either version of this mold, and as the first Datsun I got was Smokescreen I have sinced ordered him offa ebay.

Re: Cybertron Smokescreen

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:25 pm
by Sportimus Prime
Smokescreen was never a liar, cheater, or a gambler.

G1 Bio:

Whether SMOKESCREEN is engaged in raging battle or friendly conversation, an ulterior purpose usually exists. Job is to lead enemy astray. Sneaky, but charming and affable. Considered most devious yet most trusted of all AUTOBOT warriors. In car mode, emits thick smoke from tailpipe. In robot mode, shoots missiles that wreak havoc on enemy aircraft radar and guidance systems. Eectro-disruptor shorts outs electrial targets


Nothing to do with lying. He knows how to get information from the enemy. He is honorable, and trusted by all his Autobot colleagues. Being devious isn't bad, it just means he knows how to manipulate the enemy. Quite under-used in the original G1 Cartoon. He's really a great character.

I like the Cybertron version of him. But am also disappointed on what a pain in the ass it is to transform him into either form.

Love my G1 Smokescreen! I hope they make him in the Classics line, and that he will be better in that line than the Cybertron version of him. Nice review.

Re: Cybertron Smokescreen

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:40 pm
by mechajol
hey, sorry if the lying, cheating, gambling thing came out too harsh. :D

i can't still forget the episode where did the cheating/gambling thing, besides, i must have read too much transformers.wikia.com :lol:

yeah, i agree that G1 smokescreen was very underused, hell, most of 'em G1 characters are. i hope he makes more appearances in the IDW comics, though.

as for cyb smokescreen, yeah, the transformation process really lets it down. i was planning on getting a crosswise toy, and maybe repaint it as jazz, but after smokescreen? nah... this toy could have been designed better "transformation"-wise...

Re: Cybertron Smokescreen

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:35 pm
by DoubleOScorpio
Check out reprolabels.com for a "classics" decal set that makes him look even more like his G1 self.

As for a true classics version, the announcement of Prowl being included in Universe wave 1 gives me hope that we'll see at least Smokes or Bluestreak as a general release, with the other offered in the 2009 botcon set or as a store exclusive.

It will be interesting if my hypothesis is correct or if I'm wrong (as usual :wink: )

Re: Cybertron Smokescreen

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:51 pm
by mechajol
ah yes... the botcon exclusive set... the worst injustice ever given to fandom :grin: :grin: :grin:

i'm actually excited with the classics/universe line. i think this will be the only line where i'll try to collect all toys (voyagers, deluxes, and ultras)

but hey, if they pulled a "games of deception"-type exclusive set with bluestreak, smokescreen, and other characters that should have been released mainstream, man, i don't know what to do... :-(

hell, do you guys think it's impossible to retool classics mirage into dragstrip?

Re: Cybertron Smokescreen

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:39 am
by AlienQuiksilver
Fantastic job with the review!!! I couldn't agree more with the transformation frustrations. What a pain! I'd rather it not be too simple like some other figures, so it's all good.

Plastic/paint quality is definitely worthy of fitting this into the classics lineup, with eazzz!!

Re: Cybertron Smokescreen

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:55 pm
by Jelze Bunnycat
It's worth nothing C-Smokescreen is a double homage: the car is G1 Smokescreen, obviously enough, but the head is a much more obscure reference: G1 Action Master Rad ;)

That aside, excellent review. I have him, and I love him :)

Re: Cybertron Smokescreen

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:47 pm
by mechajol
hey cool! i used to have that asction master, but i got it loose from a fela market, so i never knew its name! nice!

Re: Cybertron Smokescreen

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:08 pm
by Blurrz

Re: Cybertron Smokescreen

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:23 am
by Jelze Bunnycat

Re: Cybertron Smokescreen

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:17 pm
by Un_Chakal
His color scheme especially his head with the yellow stripe and blue visor is meant to be an homage to Rad, the Action Master.
I use him as just that character, and gave him Lionizer to hold too. Action Master no more!

Re: Cybertron Smokescreen

PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:07 am
by Optimus1138
This is a great mold. I love the vehicle mode, and although the robot mode's not great, it's not bad either.