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I just noticed that BigBadToyStore now has Henkei Thundercracker up for Pre-Order by itself now. So if you do not want the new Skywarp, you are in luck.

Pre-Order is $74.99

Ooooh... cool. I've never bought from BBTS before - does anyone know how they are for sales to the UK?

this is great news for those who just want TC and don't have a whole lot of spare cash and 74 is not too uneasonable. A far cry from the 200+ that we were trying to be told they would be. Anywhoo... This is wonderful news.

EVERYBODY COME AND GET HIM!

After shipping Rinkya would be cheaper. And I’m in no rush since now we’ve confirmed there is no limit.

Argh, so expensive just to finish the seekers..Guess I'll go in my corner and cry now.

Front Paged and credited.

I'm sure this pre-order will be appreciated by many fans who have already gotten Skywarp from the Ultra Magnus 2 pack.

Nifty. Con everyone into ordering them together then put a solo pre-order up a few days later.

Wonder how many will rush out and cancel their pre-order for TC & SW and go TC only.

Thanks, just updated my preorder page acordingly.

HOORAY FOR SAVING $120!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nekoman wrote:After shipping Rinkya would be cheaper. And I’m in no rush since now we’ve confirmed there is no limit.

That was confirmed, I though it was only going to be made by the number of preorders.

Also, you found a cheaper source? I have a couple people looking, but nothing solid yet.

Oh and just cause I'm not selfish in my online hunting, one of the people I tipped off was Thomas Lee, of the Ebay favorite ToyArena. He's normaly real good at underselling BBTS, and, he's greatful for the lead

I heard that these are not going to be limited, that they'll take orders until the clisng date (kind of like the Star Convoy reissue). Well, we all know what happened to that $15 Star Convoys on Yahoo Japan.

So who at BotCon said our sets would retain their value?

GetterDragun wrote:I heard that these are not going to be limited, that they'll take orders until the clisng date (kind of like the Star Convoy reissue). Well, we all know what happened to that $15 Star Convoys on Yahoo Japan.

So who at BotCon said our sets would retain their value?

Value is a very subjective matter. What person X is willing to pay is not the same as what Person Y will pay.

I am sure that those who want a genuine botcon thundercracker, or thundercracker compleatists will pay mucho for the figure. But as for toys, It's generally not considered a good invenstment. When I buy my toys, I buy them for my own personal enjoyment future value is not a prioraty to me.

If I do buy anything extra of anything, its not for profit, but usually for a quick trade or something.


I checked on ebay just now. And auction for tc, still has 5 days currently going for 65. I am pretty sure it should go high.

For those outside the USA check http://www.etoysjapan.com/, the price is better.

GetterDragun wrote:So who at BotCon said our sets would retain their value?

Um, I thought we'd worked out that the Henkei TC will be selling for about what you paid for your Botcon one? So how has it not retained its value?

Sledge wrote:

GetterDragun wrote:So who at BotCon said our sets would retain their value?

Um, I thought we'd worked out that the Henkei TC will be selling for about what you paid for your Botcon one? So how has it not retained its value?

I am not sure but I think he means the secondary market value of Botcon Thundercracker migth not be getting the 2 - 300 dollars it currently is getting. I don't think he means the 50 some odd bucks it cost to get a botcon tc originally.

Thanks just ordered my two.

I just preordered one

Yay me! Just set up my pre-order for the set of Seekers....Henkei Starscream is on my birthday list as well! *does the happy dance*

Sledge wrote:

GetterDragun wrote:So who at BotCon said our sets would retain their value?

Um, I thought we'd worked out that the Henkei TC will be selling for about what you paid for your Botcon one? So how has it not retained its value?

The statement was made this year when the acknowlege value was around $250. Not that I would sell mine anyways, I'm just keeping track of all this.

That was a pretty stupid statement on their part, then. I can't see how anyone can offer a guarantee on what people will be willing to pay for an item in the future.

Sunstar wrote:

GetterDragun wrote:I heard that these are not going to be limited, that they'll take orders until the clisng date (kind of like the Star Convoy reissue). Well, we all know what happened to that $15 Star Convoys on Yahoo Japan.

So who at BotCon said our sets would retain their value?

Value is a very subjective matter. What person X is willing to pay is not the same as what Person Y will pay.

Since you used the term value in reference to what people pay, then no, value is not subjective at all, in this case it is pure supply and demand.

GetterDragun wrote:

Sledge wrote:

GetterDragun wrote:So who at BotCon said our sets would retain their value?

Um, I thought we'd worked out that the Henkei TC will be selling for about what you paid for your Botcon one? So how has it not retained its value?

The statement was made this year when the acknowlege value was around $250. Not that I would sell mine anyways, I'm just keeping track of all this.

I am sure for the Hardcore botcon collectors, the 250 dollar value will remain intact. Those like myself, would not pay that sort of money anyway, so there is no value lost for you.

Sledge wrote:That was a pretty stupid statement on their part, then. I can't see how anyone can offer a guarantee on what people will be willing to pay for an item in the future.

That's my point, why didn't they just say "Yea, they're coming out with a Henkei Thundercracker."

I suppose it went along the lines of saying whatever needed to be said to keep the customers happy at the time. When clearly if they cannot offer a guarantee as to Takara's use of any mold, then they certainly cannot guarantee to control inflation in markets outside any Transformer related company.

Autoclot wrote:Ooooh... cool. I've never bought from BBTS before - does anyone know how they are for sales to the UK?

I've been using them for years and their service is excellent, P&P is typically around $25 and your stuff is usually with you within a fortnight.

Sunstar wrote:

GetterDragun wrote:
The statement was made this year when the acknowlege value was around $250. Not that I would sell mine anyways, I'm just keeping track of all this.

I am sure for the Hardcore botcon collectors, the 250 dollar value will remain intact. Those like myself, would not pay that sort of money anyway, so there is no value lost for you.

Not true. Supply and Demand. There is now less demand for BotCon TC, therefore the price will drop. This is simple economics.