The Energon Pub

negatives list thus far...

-no rub sign!
-safety orange
-neon green
-moth wings
-mess of a transformation (MP makes him tame though)
-shell transformer
-nerf gun
-PBC on bottom of arm
-scope is blurry
-gun form is a bit small
-eyes are not red
-scope is not secure
-what's with the purple?
-hard to balance

The colours are unfortunate, as is the lack of a barrel-chest. He's still incredibly awesome though

None really for me. I'd prefer his cannon be on the top of his arm instead of the bottom. But other than that and the color he's quite cool.

this is what I can gather:

-no rub sign!
-safety orange
-neon green
-moth wings
-mess of a transformation (MP makes him tame though)
-shell transformer
-nerf gun
-PBC on bottom of arm
-scope is blurry
-gun form is a bit small
-eyes are not red
-scope is not secure
-what's with the purple?
-hard to balance

anything else?

Well you're just too picky.

Nerf Megs is one of the best Megs to date, yeah he's a shell former, but a complicated one at that, and the orange doesn't bother me, if the colours really irk you, just give it a simple repaint.

Nightwatcher wrote:Well you're just too picky.

I'm just trying to be by gathering opinions,
I don't necesarily share those opinions.

color, nerf gun, doesn't bother me at all.

What do you mean by "scope is not secure"?

I don't really like the colours. I would have preferred less green and perhaps the purple shins could have been black, but that's me being really picky. O, the light-piping should have been red!

The transformation doesn't bother me, though. I've heard the wings are removable but I don't know how to take the pin out.

Leonardo wrote:What do you mean by "scope is not secure"?

in gun mode, the scope can be wiggled around.

I really like him a lot, but another negative you could add is related to his legs and his balance. Its hard to get him to stay standing in any interesting sort of pose. This is partially caused by the heavy 'wings' on his back. It is also partially solved by the articulation of his toes and heels.

wmpyr wrote:

Leonardo wrote:What do you mean by "scope is not secure"?

in gun mode, the scope can be wiggled around.

I've never noticed, to be honest. I hardly ever transform him, though.

I was surprised by how little the orange bothers me, as well. I wish there was a little less purple (because I always wanted Megatron to have less purple than G1 Galvatron)and why they chose that green is beyond me.

The eye colour is the only gripe I have. Would have preferred them to be red.

Is classic Mega a shellformer? Sure, he has an outer case but once you open that you arnt presented with a robot ready to go as you are with Titanium Scourge or GF Chromia. You still have to transform him with a fairly complex sequence.

Ravage XK wrote:Is classic Mega a shellformer? Sure, he has an outer case but once you open that you arnt presented with a robot ready to go as you are with Titanium Scourge or GF Chromia. You still have to transform him with a fairly complex sequence.

Good question. Who would be a shellformer? G1 Scourge?

you know to tell you the truth i never bought him so I really can't complain, I've seen him and passed right by him..I mean he's a nerf gun!!!

Thtas not G-1 to me, and with all the political correctness I have seen lately it makes me sick.. whjat are we protecting our kids from?? If they never have a toy gun, then they are 10 times more likely to never play with one.. ok i get that..it also makes parents who own a real gun feel like its safer to leave that real gun laying around more because there isn't a toy version it could be mistaken for in the kids room..its not safety its stupid..

And what about those kids that own real guns and their parents take them hunting? I mean those kids end up actually using guns, and those kids who play with nerf guns and such have no clue what they are in for as an adult.. its unrealistic to believe we can protect our children from violence.. I mean come on, chances are most of those kids playin g with toys are gonna end up in Iraq or a 3rd world country in the future...all because of what crappy polaticians are doing now..

I mean its like we are trying to say, we are stopping violence because we want your transformable guns to be out rageous and look like a nerf gun, and we want police to not mistake your kids guns as real guns..

train you cops better!!!


I understand the orange tip, but the nerfology is way too far 0ut there..I mean its G-1 and a transformable toy.. it should have been a pistol, granted maybe a little toyish in looks, but still a pistol... they are gonna grow up and have a gun in their face one way or another, its a fact of life..

might as well have them prepared and explain the issue of gun saftely instead of letting them wonder what its like to really hold a gun, go down the street to a neighbors house and play with their dads real gun and accidently shoot someone!!! i mean we are creating a disasterous prblem by hiding our kids from guns in toys.. it makes it easier for us to ignore the issue and not have to talk to our kids...


So we get them a video game that has guns and real sounding ones, with real blood from good CGI victims.. .but we aren't allowed to sell a realistic "robot Gun" that shoots lasers at other "robots" I ema GI Joe from the 80s had guns, but they also shot lasers.. and didn't make me want a real gun, just a laser rifle or laser gun.. Those Anime Japanese shows, though clever still have gratuitous gun violence all the time, and show real gun casing shells.. I mean give me a break HASBRO!!!

Political Correctness has gotten way out of control in this country.. we are so scared to do anything to hurt some minority group, and I'm not just talking race..religion, vegetarians, ledsbians, gays, mormons, fly fisherman, alchoholics, Gobot lovers, he-man haters of america.. what ever!!! I mean its the lawyers and lawmakers who have made it so bad..you hurt my feelings and gave me mental stress becasue you said something I took offense too.. give me 1 Million dollars.. oh and lets make that a new law, you can't say that again.... what a freaking joke!! I'm moving to Canada one of these days..Captain Canuck I'm buying your Marvel Legends figure!!

Every time I see that NERF gun MEGATRON, I get pissed off... sorry but I needed to rant this morning.. and your thread was the perfect choice considering the topic..

To play Devil's advocate, one doesn't have to think of Megatron as a Nerf gun, but rather as a Cybertronian blaster...



...okay, okay, I know. To me, though, Megatron is as much a gun as Classics Astrotrain is a space shuttle.

skywarp-2 wrote:sorry but I needed to rant this morning.. and your thread was the perfect choice considering the topic..

hehehe,
better you do it online than to a real person.
stress is contagious!

one thing straight,

I'm collecting negatives on classics meg for my own
research, why? cause positive data is plentyful.

I wanna know if he is fragile,
does the wings break easily?

can a kid transform this guy without worry of breaking it?

when running around with it in gun mode, does the
scope arm pop up?

just looking for these kinds of details, that's why
I'm not defending him, and it's not meant to be a put down.

wmpyr wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:sorry but I needed to rant this morning.. and your thread was the perfect choice considering the topic..

hehehe,
better you do it online than to a real person.
stress is contagious!

I know.. but it still doesn't make sense to me.. besides MP megatron is more coveted in the US because of the gun law then anywhere else.. and thats becaus eof the realism and contoversy around his altmode.. but look at gran theft auto... its like a criminal training simulation game..

skywarp-2 wrote:I know.. but it still doesn't make sense to me.. besides MP megatron is more coveted in the US because of the gun law then anywhere else.. and thats becaus eof the realism and contoversy around his altmode.. but look at gran theft auto... its like a criminal training simulation game..

well Mr. Skywarp,
politicians are very bad at being consistant, but perhaps
as unfair as that may turn out, if they equally censored
everything, then EVERYBODY suffers.

comparing will only bring up the issue of consistancey
which then is going to result at pointing the finger.

I would just blame the genius who thought it would
be great to make him a nerf gun and then call him classics.

wmpyr wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:I know.. but it still doesn't make sense to me.. besides MP megatron is more coveted in the US because of the gun law then anywhere else.. and thats becaus eof the realism and contoversy around his altmode.. but look at gran theft auto... its like a criminal training simulation game..

well Mr. Skywarp,
politicians are very bad at being consistant, but perhaps
as unfair as that may turn out, if they equally censored
everything, then EVERYBODY suffers.

comparing will only bring up the issue of consistancey
which then is going to result at pointing the finger.

I would just blame the genius who thought it would
be great to make him a nerf gun and then call him classics.

I love your sarcasm... he he genius...your right..

wmpyr wrote:I would just blame the genius who thought it would
be great to make him a nerf gun and then call him classics.

That seems rather unfair; it's not Hasbro's fault they have to confrom to certain regulations. They made him a gun, the first time he'd been a gun since G1, as far as I'm aware. So many people wanted him to be a gun over a tank or jet, so they complied.

skywarp-2 wrote:I love your sarcasm... he he genius...your right..

I agree with your past statements,
the answer is in creativity.

if the designers were MORE creative, then they could
find a way to satisfy the G1 lovers and keep the
politically correct a-holes off our backs

wmpyr wrote:one thing straight,

I'm collecting negatives on classics meg for my own
research, why? cause positive data is plentyful.

I wanna know if he is fragile,
does the wings break easily?

can a kid transform this guy without worry of breaking it?

when running around with it in gun mode, does the
scope arm pop up?

just looking for these kinds of details, that's why
I'm not defending him, and it's not meant to be a put down.

Oh, and I wasn't directing the earlier rant at you, but the laws surrounding the decision to produce the Nerf Classics Megatron, i understand that you wanted feed bacck on the negatives surrounding the actual bot, as I said in my rant i do apologize for going off, but the topic just stirs the anit establishment, and anti over sensativeness that permiates our society today.. sorry...

I have seen him and I agree the wings are stupid looking and the legs should have a bit more articulation, but if you see him repainted in silver and black he actually looks cool.. so I think if he were done with a more realisitc paint schem and maybe looked like a disrupter from the old 1960s star trek he would have been better recieved as a cybertronian laser..

Leonardo wrote:

wmpyr wrote:I would just blame the genius who thought it would
be great to make him a nerf gun and then call him classics.

That seems rather unfair; it's not Hasbro's fault they have to confrom to certain regulations.

nerf gun fine, don't call him classics Meg though,
I think they could have done better and more realistic
gun for classics Meg without violating regulations
don't you think?