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New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:36 am
by Volrath2242

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:43 am
by It Is Him
I don't expect the law to affect Ebay sales between collectors.

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:47 am
by Volrath2242
Dude, the law is broad enough that eBay could litterarrly see many of their toy auctions disappear overnight come Feb 10th

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:12 am
by Energon
Then just re-list them as an adult collectable.

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:35 am
by Chaoslock
Energon wrote:Then just re-list them as an adult collectable.


That was what I was thinking... still, is it possible to go around the law that way? And if not, what will be the reaction of online TF sellers as BBTS, or others?
And how will this influence orders in and out of the US?

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:38 am
by Sledge
Sounds like this would be a good time for those of you across the pond to start harrassing your local politicians.

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:38 am
by Energon
Chaoslock wrote:
Energon wrote:Then just re-list them as an adult collectable.


That was what I was thinking... still, is it possible to go around the law that way? And if not, what will be the reaction of online TF sellers as BBTS, or others?
And how will this influence orders in and out of the US?


Online retailers would probably not be as affected as toy conventions where any age person can purchase items.

BBTS is large and sells tons of new products, their resale market is small comparatively.

The law states "toys used by children under 12". I think all on-line retailers need to do is put a disclaimer that the item is not for children under 12.

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:42 am
by Volrath2242
Energon wrote:Then just re-list them as an adult collectable.

But what defines "adult collectible"? Out of the box where it will have no "For ages X+" I do understand this will be hard to enforce. But who is to say ebay will fold fast and pull everything they think will be affected by this? This will slap more people in the face then this law wants to and might get changed or pulled before Feb 10th any way.

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:43 am
by TheMuffin
You know, I'm looking for some other place to have this info, but I can't find it on CNN, MSNBC, Yahoo etc. Anyone wanna help me out?

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:59 am
by Dead Metal
:lol:
:shock: :| :roll: :lol:
There is nothing else to add to this stupidity.

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:00 am
by Prime's Trailer
Another fantastically pointless law from the control obsessed state. That is really going to screw over us collectors and parents who rely on ebays bargain toy prices at christmas.
I'm sure it won't be long before the UK follows suit.
Instead trying to properly regulate serious problems such as international and homegrown terrorism, our governments target law-abiding citizens and, at most, low-level crime.
Rant over.
(:|

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:04 am
by Cyber Bishop
For the lazy.

A new federal law is raising concerns and questions nationwide and here in Austin.
On February 10, 2009 it will be illegal to re-sell any used children's products including toys and clothing. That is according to the U.S. Consumer Protection & Safety Commission who pushed for the new laws after dozens of toys were recalled in 2008 because of lead concerns.

Toys, clothing and other items used by children under 12 will be subjected to lead testing and will have to have labels on them to prove that they have passed inspection.

What is raising the ire of parents and business owners far and wide is what this will mean to clothing, toys and other children products made before February 10, 2009.

Gary Walthall, the owner of Once upon a Child, a resale shop specializing in children's clothing and other items, is afraid that he'll have to close up shop.

Adding to the confusion and frustration is the fact that the U.S. Consumer Products and Safety Commission is not returning calls or e-mails to the countless re-salers and even journalists who have tried in vain to get clarification on what the law means to garage sales and how it will be enforced.


Shame that all this is from those toys being recalled due to the lead issues.

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:22 am
by Kique
Dead Metal wrote::lol:
:shock: :| :roll: :lol:
There is nothing else to add to this stupidity.


I second that !

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:34 pm
by DISCHARGE
You know, this is completely obsurd!

With the state of the current economy they are going to
destroy even more peoples income. I just lost my job, day after x-mas nonetheless, and now am resorting to selling portions of my collection until I can find another place to work. This gov is getting out of control in telling us what we can/can't do, and I'm getting fed up. They are supposed to work for us, not the other way around.

One minute they want us to recycle the next they tell us not too.
That's just what selling used clothing and toys is, recycling.
Does this mean that places like Goodwill and Salvation Army, not forgetting all the resale/thrift store, will have nothing to offer except used silverware and tvs that won't work without a converter box?

This law is trash and the politicians that pushed it through should have looked beyond their manicured estates and taken a drive down skid row. All those people rely on used goods to get by.

Out-of-control!

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:29 pm
by Volrath2242
DISCHARGE wrote:You know, this is completely obsurd!

With the state of the current economy they are going to
destroy even more peoples income. I just lost my job, day after x-mas nonetheless, and now am resorting to selling portions of my collection until I can find another place to work. This gov is getting out of control in telling us what we can/can't do, and I'm getting fed up. They are supposed to work for us, not the other way around.

One minute they want us to recycle the next they tell us not too.
That's just what selling used clothing and toys is, recycling.
Does this mean that places like Goodwill and Salvation Army, not forgetting all the resale/thrift store, will have nothing to offer except used silverware and tvs that won't work without a converter box?

This law is trash and the politicians that pushed it through should have looked beyond their manicured estates and taken a drive down skid row. All those people rely on used goods to get by.

Out-of-control!

The law making don't know the coats that the smaller companies will have to take on to make sure everything "has nothing that will hurt anything" in it. They don't mean to get angry letters from moms how just caught their kid licking a toy that had lead in it and now they are mildly retarded. But hey lets make sure this fine nation can make sure the little guy has no leg to stand on.

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:35 pm
by Dead Metal
King of Terror wrote:
DISCHARGE wrote:You know, this is completely obsurd!

With the state of the current economy they are going to
destroy even more peoples income. I just lost my job, day after x-mas nonetheless, and now am resorting to selling portions of my collection until I can find another place to work. This gov is getting out of control in telling us what we can/can't do, and I'm getting fed up. They are supposed to work for us, not the other way around.

One minute they want us to recycle the next they tell us not too.
That's just what selling used clothing and toys is, recycling.
Does this mean that places like Goodwill and Salvation Army, not forgetting all the resale/thrift store, will have nothing to offer except used silverware and tvs that won't work without a converter box?

This law is trash and the politicians that pushed it through should have looked beyond their manicured estates and taken a drive down skid row. All those people rely on used goods to get by.

Out-of-control!

The law making don't know the coats that the smaller companies will have to take on to make sure everything "has nothing that will hurt anything" in it. They don't mean to get angry letters from moms how just caught their kid licking a toy that had lead in it and now they are mildly retarded. But hey lets make sure this fine nation can make sure the little guy has no leg to stand on.

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Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:39 pm
by Energon
Here is one link that I found related, I am sure from here if someone wants to spend the time they can find the original source.

http://www.cpsc.gov/library/foia/advisory/322.pdf

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:33 pm
by Mkall
I wonder if this explains BBTS's recent warning?

BBTS wrote:Safety Warning: This Product is for Adult Collectors. It may contain sharp points, small parts that are choking hazards, and other elements that are not suitable for children under 16 years of age.

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:52 pm
by nemesis-prime
Cyber Bishop wrote:For the lazy.

A new federal law is raising concerns and questions nationwide and here in Austin.
On February 10, 2009 it will be illegal to re-sell any used children's products including toys and clothing. That is according to the U.S. Consumer Protection & Safety Commission who pushed for the new laws after dozens of toys were recalled in 2008 because of lead concerns.

Toys, clothing and other items used by children under 12 will be subjected to lead testing and will have to have labels on them to prove that they have passed inspection.

What is raising the ire of parents and business owners far and wide is what this will mean to clothing, toys and other children products made before February 10, 2009.

Gary Walthall, the owner of Once upon a Child, a resale shop specializing in children's clothing and other items, is afraid that he'll have to close up shop.

Adding to the confusion and frustration is the fact that the U.S. Consumer Products and Safety Commission is not returning calls or e-mails to the countless re-salers and even journalists who have tried in vain to get clarification on what the law means to garage sales and how it will be enforced.


Shame that all this is from those toys being recalled due to the lead issues.



I rember having a voltron toy taken away from me when i was 7 because of the lead paint. That was 1987. :sad:

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:55 pm
by nemesis-prime
Mkall wrote:I wonder if this explains BBTS's recent warning?

BBTS wrote:Safety Warning: This Product is for Adult Collectors. It may contain sharp points, small parts that are choking hazards, and other elements that are not suitable for children under 16 years of age.


It must ill have to start outting a warning on my ebay auctions.
Screw u Gov-ment they are prolly still pissed they cant tax eBay sellers unless they have a business and tax liscence.

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:33 pm
by Symbiote Spiderman14

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:42 pm
by nemesis-prime


yes very confusing still gonna sell my stuff on eBay screw them :-x

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:05 pm
by Agent 007
lame, now quick we gotta form a tf underground railroad! :P

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:09 pm
by El Duque
Mkall wrote:I wonder if this explains BBTS's recent warning?

BBTS wrote:Safety Warning: This Product is for Adult Collectors. It may contain sharp points, small parts that are choking hazards, and other elements that are not suitable for children under 16 years of age.


You beat me to it, but I was thinking the same thing. I bet this has something to do with this new law.

Re: New law restricts re-sale of kid's products

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:09 pm
by nightbolt
the link you provided doesnt lead to the topic at hand. the government has failed the economy again! :sad: