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Transformers Generation 2 in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:00 am
by Savage
With BotCon 2010 breathing new life into Transformers Generation 2, I wanted to take a moment to revisit the original G2 and lay out some background information for many people coming to BotCon this year who may not have been around during the G2 days.

Generation 2 was launched in America in 1993. I remember it well. Having been born in 1983, and gotten into Transformers shortly after the '86 animated movie came out, I had been sad to see them go. Also, I had gotten into Transformers too late to have G1 figures of Optimus Prime, the Seekers, the Autobot cars, etc.

G2 contained many G1 molds in new colors, such as

Optimus Prime (now with a black trailer)
Jazz (who sports, for the most part, his G1 colors)
Sideswipe (now black instead of red)
Inferno (with a new watergun)
Autobot Minicars (Bumblebee, Seaspray, Hubcap, and Beachcomber) with chrome paint
Grimlock (blue, and later turquoise)
Slag (green, and later red)
Snarl (red, and later green)

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Aerialbots (new color schemes, some more offensive than others. Air Raid and Skydive look good, but Slingshot is gold, and don't get me started on the blue and orange Silverbolt)
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Starscream
Ramjet (in black, purple, and a touch of teal)
Constructicons (in yellow, and later orange)
Combaticons (featuring camo paint jobs in a variety of colors)

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Additionally, G2 offered up many new characters and designs. With the inability to rerelease Megatron as a gun, a new figure had to be made. The green tank Megatron was an impressive figure, despite being a brick.

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Other G2 originals included Rapido, Skram, Windbreaker, and Turbofire. These four Autobot cars had simple but fun transformations and chromed weaponry that became the engine block in alt mode. It is interesting to note that while Rapido was mostly red with teal as a secondary color, the inverse is true of Turbofire. Also, the same is true of Skram and Windbreaker's blue and orange schemes. This habit of complimentary color schemes was common in G2 figures.

Opposing Rapido and his friends were four small Decepticon jets named Afterburner, Terradive, Windrazor, and Eage Eye.

G2 also gave us...

Color Changers (Autobots Drench and Gobots, Decepticons Deluge and Jetstorm) - Portions of the toy would change color under warm water. Each figure was armed with a small watergun.

Rotor Force - Transformers whose spring-loaded weapon fired a spinning rotor. These included Leadfoot, Manta Ray, Powerdive, and Ransack.
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Laser Rods - Transformers with light-up swords and engines! And BALL JOINTS. Electro, Jolt, Sizzle, and Volt may have been funky colors, but they were hot rod cars anyway.

Laser Rod Optimus Prime. Your collection is incomplete without him.

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A few smaller figures (Go Bots, Cyberjets, Laser Cycles).

Combat Hero Optimus Prime & Combat Hero Megatron with big air-powered missile launchers.

Dreadwing and Smokescreen, an impressive stealth jet and smaller plane, sporting a huge gatling gun that fired six missiles, three more missiles on each wing (with a button on top to deploy them), and two spring-loaded rifles.


European exclusive Obliterators Spark and Colossus, using molds that had been available in Europe as G1 figures named Pyro and Clench after the end of North American G1.


Generation 2 also had a comic series in the US as well as the UK. The 12-issue Marvel (US) series was written by Simon Furman and showcased several very talented artists. Derek Yaniger did great work on the covers, and many will recall Geoff Senior's work, as well as that of other artists, on the interior pages.

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Generation 2 featured cgi animation in its toy commercials, during a time when cgi was still very uncommon. The likes of Reboot and Beast Wars were still several years away. The only TV series G2 offered was merely G1 episodes being re-aired with a new cgi title sequence, and a cgi-animated "Cybercube" replacing the flipping faction symbols for scene transitions.

Well folks, I hope this has been eye-opening for you. It's been fun for me to revisit. See you at BotCon!

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:09 am
by zenosaurus_x
Wait...G2 was in 93? I was born in 94...my parents could've gotten some, NOOOOOOOO!!!!
However that was very informative, Laser Rod Optimus looks cool, though the sword'd be better if it was an axe...

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:14 am
by Diem
That was a great review Savage but needs moar Euro-exclusives.

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:19 am
by Counterpunch
Fun stuff there Savage.

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:23 am
by Flux Convoy
I agree, your collection is incomplete without a Laser Optimus Prime in some form or other. Great figure. Fun write up here bud.
:BOT:

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:14 am
by Hip-Hoptimus Rime
I only have 7 G2 figs, but they include Laser Optimus, Leader Megatron, and 3 of the Cyberjets. The Cyberjets have great alt modes, and pretty nice robot modes. Funny, but I don't remember buhing them, it's like I've always had them somehow.

Megatron is so very cool. I love- LOVE- the firing cannon. I was lucky enough to find one w/ all the missiles. I'm an adult collector, and I usually remove the missiles or disable the firing mechanism, as I feel it usually detracts from a figure. Meg here has it right. The rapid-fire feature is more fun than a barrel of buttered cheerleaders.

Laser Prime is indeed one of the best Optimus Primes. His robot mode is great, the light-up sword/gun look really good. And the base w/ all those missiles and the air-powered rocket and the launching discs- way-fun. To own him is to love him. Not to own him is to love him. From afar.

The Rotor Force figs look like fun- def. looking into expanding my G2 section.

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:29 am
by Gauntlet101010
I don't have any G2 except for Laser Prime ... which I gutted to make a Lazer Black Convoy. I really like BC's colors more.

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:33 am
by Jelze Bunnycat
Savage wrote:Other G2 originals included Rapido, Skram, Windbreaker, and Turbofire. These four Autobot cars had simple but fun transformations and chromed weaponry that became the engine block in alt mode. It is interesting to note that while Rapido was mostly red with teal as a secondary color, the inverse is true of Turbofire. Also, the same is true of Skram and Windbreaker's blue and orange schemes. This habit of complimentary color schemes was common in G2 figures.

Opposing Rapido and his friends were four small Decepticon jets named Afterburner, Terradive, Windrazor, and Eage Eye.

G2 also gave us...

Color-changing Transformers (Autobots Drench and Gobot, Decepticons Deluge and Jetstorm). Portions of the toy would change color under warm water. Each figure was armed with a small watergun.


I like to add a few things to this:

1. The Axelerators and Skyscorchers, and the Color Changers were Europe originals. While the first two groups only had name changes and color tweaks, the Color Changers were repainted. Further more, Europe had 8 total in 2 groups, the Autobot Aquaspeeders and Decepticon Stormtroopers. The US only had the Aquaspeeders, split in two. Here's the list of names, confusing as it is:

Autobot Aquaspeeders
Aquafend
Deluge
Jetstorm
Speedstream

Decepticon Stormtroopers
Aquablast
Rage / Aquanaught
Drench
Hydradread / Hydroshark

US Color Changers
Jetstorm (repaint of EU Aquafend)
Drench (repaint of EU Deluge)
Gobots (repaint of EU Jetstorm)
Deluge (repaint of Speedstream)

2. "Color complimenting" is an effect of so-called gang-molding, a process where 1 set of molds produced more than one toy. Axelerators and Skyscorchers are good examples of this, and so are the Go-Bots/Spychangers. The Unicron Trilogy put it to full use with the Mini-Con teams and partners.

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:52 pm
by Savage
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Savage wrote:Other G2 originals included Rapido, Skram, Windbreaker, and Turbofire. These four Autobot cars had simple but fun transformations and chromed weaponry that became the engine block in alt mode. It is interesting to note that while Rapido was mostly red with teal as a secondary color, the inverse is true of Turbofire. Also, the same is true of Skram and Windbreaker's blue and orange schemes. This habit of complimentary color schemes was common in G2 figures.

Opposing Rapido and his friends were four small Decepticon jets named Afterburner, Terradive, Windrazor, and Eage Eye.

G2 also gave us...

Color-changing Transformers (Autobots Drench and Gobot, Decepticons Deluge and Jetstorm). Portions of the toy would change color under warm water. Each figure was armed with a small watergun.


I like to add a few things to this:

1. The Axelerators and Skyscorchers, and the Color Changers were Europe originals. While the first two groups only had name changes and color tweaks, the Color Changers were repainted. Further more, Europe had 8 total in 2 groups, the Autobot Aquaspeeders and Decepticon Stormtroopers. The US only had the Aquaspeeders, split in two. Here's the list of names, confusing as it is:

Autobot Aquaspeeders
Aquafend
Deluge
Jetstorm
Speedstream

Decepticon Stormtroopers
Aquablast
Rage / Aquanaught
Drench
Hydradread / Hydroshark

US Color Changers
Jetstorm (repaint of EU Aquafend)
Drench (repaint of EU Deluge)
Gobots (repaint of EU Jetstorm)
Deluge (repaint of Speedstream)

2. "Color complimenting" is an effect of so-called gang-molding, a process where 1 set of molds produced more than one toy. Axelerators and Skyscorchers are good examples of this, and so are the Go-Bots/Spychangers. The Unicron Trilogy put it to full use with the Mini-Con teams and partners.


Great info. I had heard this before somewhere, but couldn't recall the specifics. Plus, I know a lot of confusion has been had about US G2 and late European G1, because of redundant mold usage, and I wanted to avoid that and give people a solely G2 perspective. Thus I left Europe out of the article. Sorry, old worlders ;)

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:05 pm
by kirbenvost
Flux Convoy wrote:I agree, your collection is incomplete without a Laser Optimus Prime in some form or other. Great figure. Fun write up here bud.
:BOT:


That form being RID Scourge/Car Robots Black Convoy. Right? :lol:

Interesting, this is the first time I've seen the Rotor Force guys. Pretty cool. Even though I was a kid when G2 was in full swing, I never saw most of them. They just weren't popular in stores, and I guess I'd moved on to Ninja Turtles by that time.

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:16 pm
by Jelze Bunnycat
kirbenvost wrote:
Flux Convoy wrote:I agree, your collection is incomplete without a Laser Optimus Prime in some form or other. Great figure. Fun write up here bud.
:BOT:


That form being RID Scourge/Car Robots Black Convoy. Right? :lol:

Interesting, this is the first time I've seen the Rotor Force guys. Pretty cool. Even though I was a kid when G2 was in full swing, I never saw most of them. They just weren't popular in stores, and I guess I'd moved on to Ninja Turtles by that time.


Let's not forget the Power Rangers!

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:42 pm
by joevill
Excellent article Savage!

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:47 pm
by Amelie
You could've summed up G2 in two sentences - It is awesome. Buy the figures. ;)

On another side note, I'm really fond of the G2 colour scemes and personally I look forward to owning a G2 Ramjet and G2 Starscream in the future.

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:48 pm
by Rated X
Why couldnt Megatron be a gun ??? I know now they have to have those dumb orange caps but since when were toy guns never allowed to be sold ???

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:52 pm
by Amelie
Rated X wrote:Why couldnt Megatron be a gun ??? I know now they have to have those dumb orange caps but since when were toy guns never allowed to be sold ???


Have you ever owned a G1 Megatron? I wouldn't let my kids (if I had any) play with one on the grounds it could shatter like glass at any minute. I've had three in my time and the one from me being a kid lost both arms within a week, and I was really careful with my TFs. It's not good for Hasbro's reputation for starters.

Then there's the whole "cop might shoot a kid" arguement....

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:58 pm
by Jelze Bunnycat
Rated X wrote:Why couldnt Megatron be a gun ??? I know now they have to have those dumb orange caps but since when were toy guns never allowed to be sold ???


Since the 90's, to avoid kids from playing with a real gun, thinking it's a toy. Imagine the possible results >.>

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:18 pm
by Savage
Amelie wrote:You could've summed up G2 in two sentences - It is awesome. Buy the figures. ;)

On another side note, I'm really fond of the G2 colour scemes and personally I look forward to owning a G2 Ramjet and G2 Starscream in the future.


G2 Ramjet is a really awesome looking Seeker. Mine is currently missing one fin, but it's buried in a box somewhere. I was really hoping FunPub would give us a G2 Ramjet in the Classics Seeker mold for BotCon this year, but sadly that hasn't panned out. Guess I'll just have to console myself with Rapido.

I could ramble for days about the awesomeness of G2 and all the wonderful new things it did for the franchise (poseability, ball joints, weaponry gimmicks like waterguns and rotors and light-up swords).

That said, I do have three G2 figures I will be selling/trading at BotCon this year. Electro, Jolt, and Space Case. All mint on sealed card. Anyone whose interested and going to be in attendance, look for my note on the room-to-room trading bulletin board.

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:18 pm
by Chaoslock
Savage wrote:G2 contained many G1 molds in new colors, such as
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Grimlock (blue /turquoise)
Slag (green /red)
Snarl (red /green)


FIXXED G2 Dinobots were also available in "normal", grey colour, with G2 autobot symbols on their legs

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:23 pm
by Zeds
Laser Rod was the only nice thing to come out of G2 in its reuse as RID Scourge.

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:25 pm
by Rated X
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Rated X wrote:Why couldnt Megatron be a gun ??? I know now they have to have those dumb orange caps but since when were toy guns never allowed to be sold ???


Since the 90's, to avoid kids from playing with a real gun, thinking it's a toy. Imagine the possible results >.>



I still own my G1 Megatron. With the scope, stock and silencer. I get everybodys point about kids (I dont have any) But parents with unsecured firearms need to put the blame on themselves for potential accidents rather than blaming a toy company for making kids lust to be triggerhappy. If I had a little boy, I would buy him the one thing my parents never let me have...a BB gun lol. You think I want my son to start playing with dolls ??? I remember bsck when I was like 10 years old, I had a toy M-16 and I scared a hovering news helicopter over my block and made it leave just by pointing it at them !!! LOL I miss being a kid !!!

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:36 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Good review, there. And yes, G2 Prime's one of the best versions of Prime out there.

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:46 pm
by Neurie
You also forget the dinobots came in multiple colours.

That and in Europe combat hero prime and megatron were released as 2 new characters with slightly different decos as Sureshot and Archforce

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:50 pm
by Jelze Bunnycat
Neurie wrote:You also forget the dinobots came in multiple colours.

That and in Europe combat hero prime and megatron were released as 2 new characters with slightly different decos as Sureshot and Archforce


He already covered the first. And he doesn't do Europe for the sake of simplicity. For all purposes, Prime and Sureshot, and Megatron and Archforce are the same figures, their stickers just have no names on the European releases.

Re: Transformers Generation 2 in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:20 pm
by Solrac333
"The only TV series G2 offered was merely G1 episodes being re-aired with a new cgi title sequence, and a cgi-animated "Cybercube" replacing the flipping faction symbols for scene transitions. "

And I remember hating all of that. :SICK:

Re: Generation Two in Review

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:19 pm
by Duke of Luns
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Rated X wrote:Why couldnt Megatron be a gun ??? I know now they have to have those dumb orange caps but since when were toy guns never allowed to be sold ???


Since the 90's, to avoid kids from playing with a real gun, thinking it's maya toy. Imagine the possible results >.>


You think Megatron is bad? I stumbled upon this recently:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo3uxeI_sB4[/youtube]

They did sell it in realistic colors(another reviews shows one), but even in those colors that thing has "lawsuit" written all over it were they even to try to sell it today.

My how times have changed eh?