The Energon Pub

Does this Transformers Museum in Kyoto have a website ??? I would like to see it...

nice work but the Autobot logo not even "scratched"? then again i can't understand japanese so i don't know the story of this toy. this IS a black Convoy, right?

DO WANT! That Black Convoy is looking mighty snazzy ;D

look closely menasor is in the case

Mechastrike wrote:nice work but the Autobot logo not even "scratched"? then again i can't understand japanese so i don't know the story of this toy. this IS a black Convoy, right?

Most Black Convoys are actually good guys in Japan. I don't know enough details to go into it, but that's basically it.

Lovely toy, but I'll never be able to own it. It's okay, I have rules regarding which Primes/Nemesis Primes I buy.

kirbenvost wrote:

Mechastrike wrote:nice work but the Autobot logo not even "scratched"? then again i can't understand japanese so i don't know the story of this toy. this IS a black Convoy, right?

Most Black Convoys are actually good guys in Japan. I don't know enough details to go into it, but that's basically it.

You need to be a bit careful with nomenclature here, as not all black Convoys or Primes are Nemesis Primes or evil clones. Look at the list:

Evil Clones
Black Lioconvoy
Car Robots Black Convoy / RiD Scourge)
Micron Legend Scourge / Armada Nemesis Prime
BT Black Convoy / Alternator Nemesis Prime
Universe Nemesis Prime
Universe 2.0 Nemesis Prime

Black Versions
JAFCon Convoy
Nucleon Quest Super Convoy
Hybrid Style G1 Convoy Black Version
Masterpiece Convoy Black Version
Alternity Convoy Super Black (who was repurposed as a reformed Universe Nemesis Prime)
Animated Optimus Prime Black Version.

From these examples, it's standard practice to name Evil Clones "Black (name)" and black versions, well, "(name) Black Version". I should add that the Japanese love black repaints, and it's not limited to Transformers. Look at Super Sentai too, even that had some of their mecha repainted in black.

I stand corrected. So it's about 50/50. Interesting, and confusing.

kirbenvost wrote:I stand corrected. So it's about 50/50. Interesting, and confusing.

Nowadays it's just same character, only in black, as they hate repaints as new characters. Look at what happened in Energon

Japan had a problem with Energon?

kirbenvost wrote:Japan had a problem with Energon?

More like with the characters:

US Landquake = new character
JP Landquake (anime only) = Powered up Landmine

US Beachcomber = new character
JP Beachcomber = Powered up Cliffjumper/Overdrive

Armada Thundercracker was made into Starscream for the same reason.

I see. Weird, I feel the opposite, I'd buy a repaint if it's a new character. Any particular reason Japanese fans would disagree? I guess they are all about the power-ups over there.

I agree, i'd prefer if this was another character rather than Prime with a black paint job! Can one of our Japanese reading friends translate this?