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Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:33 pm
by Razorclaw0000
The world famous Seibertron.com Toy Galleries have two new inductees this week:

HIGHBROW

Resembling a German Focke-Wulf FW-189 Twin Boom Fighter, Highbrow thunders into action with gatling guns, rockets, and two turbo prop engines.

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In robot mode, Highbrow features the same weapons, as well as flip down "aviator's mask":

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See Highbrow's full gallery here.

THE FALLEN

Sporting a new Skeletor-esque purple and teal color scheme, The Fallen is back with his customary battle staff, as well as new rip off face!

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See The Fallen's full gallery here.

Check out all of the latest Seibertron.com galleries here!

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:46 pm
by Megazarak
They're both looking really good. I don't really mind the colours on Fallen, but he just doesn't really look like he's supposed to. I wonder if they're going to repaint this mold into proper Fallen colours.

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:47 pm
by WolfDawg
Cool galleries. I REALLY wish they would have released The Fallen in true The Fallen colors (solid black with red and orange highlights). However, it just seems as if Hasbro refuses to release the guy in his true colors. First we get army green, then red with black highlights, and now purple and blue?! WTF? The only toy with The Fallen's real colors is the Legends class. Hopefully Takara will get the colors right on this version of the mold because I really want to buy this mold, but I refuse to do it when the constantly screw up the colors.

As for Highbrow, I absolutely love this figure. I don't know why though. I'm not a big fan of the color scheme (dark olive green and light blue don't work IMO), hey's really hard to pose, and his arms are a pain in the ass to make look right. He also has sucky weapons. Still, I'd say Tomahawk and Battle Blades BB aside, this is my favorite ROTF figure.

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:47 pm
by OptiMagnus
Highbrow- Vehicle mode, good. Robot mode- Eh...I don't know, looks pretty bad to me, but someone could try to sway me the other way.
The Fallen- Thank you Hasbro! Perfect! Would like the accurate movie colors, but the cool blue colors look pretty sweet on this guy. By the way, does the Takara voyager BB Optimus Prime really have hooks instead of blades? If so, I'll have to get him for the Fallen so he can rip his face off.

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:49 pm
by mattyc1007
I saw these yesterday, and spent a few hours looking at that Fallen, its pretty snazzy :D

Highbrow being an autobot means I cant get him :-(

Nice Galleries once again!

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:06 pm
by shocktastic14
you know highbrow looks awesome but i have to disagree in what he resembles he looks more like the p-38 lightning from lockheed.

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:07 pm
by Mkall
mattyc1007 wrote:Highbrow being an autobot means I cant get him :-(

What do you have against Autobots?

Nice galleries as usual Ryan!

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:11 pm
by Noideaforaname
A vintage alt mode is a definite bought. I bet he'd go nice with Ransack and Hubcap.

I have the original, but The Fallen is sorely tempting. I don't buy repaints --as a fan of the actual transformation, there's no point in getting two of the same thing-- but a rip-off-able face AND a staff AND hands to use that staff...



mattyc1007 wrote:Highbrow being an autobot means I cant get him :-(


He lacks the Autobot insignia :wink:

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:19 pm
by WarGraver
Highbrow has some weirdly jointed wrists, but it otherwise pretty snazzy. And I love that there is a Transformer with matching propellor arms for once. I will have to pick this one up if I have money left after Xmas shopping.

The Fallen... meh. Good color scheme, but I dislike the mold. I'd rather get a new 'living furnace' version of this character instead of another 'alien pharaoh'.

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:59 pm
by Kingpun
Whoa, I didn't know The Fallen's face was removable. I must get this one. Possible get a second and attempt a movie accurate repaint because I doubt we'll be seeing an official one.

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:22 pm
by Rated X
I got both of em at wal-mart for 16 bucks and I love em !!!

I have my 3 Fallen repaints on display as "The Primes".

Highbrow stays in plane mode. Im not one to nit-pick but I gotta point out that the idiots at hasbro mounted the cannons in a place where if they were actually fired, they would blow off the propellers in flight. Why didnt they just make the wings a little longer since this plane is not actually a real aircraft, but a hybrid of the P-38 Lightning and a German bomber ???

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:48 pm
by OptiMagnus
Kingpun wrote:Possible get a second and attempt a movie accurate repaint because I doubt we'll be seeing an official one.

I think this could happen in later waves of DOTM in 2012. I'm thinking they're gonna bring in all the movie characters.

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:48 pm
by Razorclaw0000
Rated X wrote:mounted the cannons in a place where if they were actually fired, they would blow off the propellers in flight.


Not nitpicking, but in general, guns can be mounted like that, as long as the rate of fire and propeller spin are synchronized. The bullets literally pass through between the propeller blades. It's pretty slick.

shocktastic14 wrote:you know highbrow looks awesome but i have to disagree in what he resembles he looks more like the p-38 lightning from lockheed.


Sorry, but the core fuselage doesn't match at all:

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The P-38 has a traditional cockpit, as well as foreward slung nose cone.


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The FW-189, however, has the majority of the fuselage projecting backwards from the central strut. Additionally, it has a nice dome style cockpit in the rear. Remove the main cockpit, and you'd be pretty close to Highbrow.

Anyway, he's just a made up mish mash of whatever traits they think looked cool, but FW-189's silhouette was what jumped out at me immediately.

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:57 pm
by mattyc1007
Mkall wrote:
mattyc1007 wrote:Highbrow being an autobot means I cant get him :-(

What do you have against Autobots?

Nice galleries as usual Ryan!



Noideaforaname wrote:
mattyc1007 wrote:Highbrow being an autobot means I cant get him :-(


He lacks the Autobot insignia :wink:


My bro collects Autobots while I collect Con's :D

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:40 pm
by chrisc4
give me your face!

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:44 pm
by Blurrz
Don't have an affinity towards vintage-formers like Highbrow so that's likely a pass. That Fallen's removable mask is pretty hilarious..

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:45 pm
by OptiMagnus
chrisc4 wrote:give me your face!

:lol: My thoughts exactly.

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:46 pm
by OptiMagnus
Blurrz wrote:Don't have an affinity towards vintage-formers like Highbrow so that's likely a pass. That Fallen's removable mask is pretty hilarious..

Well, yeah. What kid doesn't want to reenact a mutilation scene?

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:28 pm
by Wreckage42
I think ill wait a month or two to see if takara will repaint the fallen in his natural colors. :D

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:55 pm
by Rated X
Razorclaw0000 wrote:
Rated X wrote:mounted the cannons in a place where if they were actually fired, they would blow off the propellers in flight.


Not nitpicking, but in general, guns can be mounted like that, as long as the rate of fire and propeller spin are synchronized. The bullets literally pass through between the propeller blades. It's pretty slick.

Did they have that technology in WWII ??? Even if they did, I would still be scared to pull the trigger. One loose bolt or miscalibration and your going for a nose dive :shock:

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:19 pm
by Evil_the_Nub
Rated X wrote:
Razorclaw0000 wrote:
Rated X wrote:mounted the cannons in a place where if they were actually fired, they would blow off the propellers in flight.


Not nitpicking, but in general, guns can be mounted like that, as long as the rate of fire and propeller spin are synchronized. The bullets literally pass through between the propeller blades. It's pretty slick.

Did they have that technology in WWII ??? Even if they did, I would still be scared to pull the trigger. One loose bolt or miscalibration and your going for a nose dive :shock:

They made some kind of mechanism that only fired bullets between the propeller blades during WW1.

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:26 pm
by Dr. Caelus
Rated X wrote:
Razorclaw0000 wrote:
Rated X wrote:mounted the cannons in a place where if they were actually fired, they would blow off the propellers in flight.


Not nitpicking, but in general, guns can be mounted like that, as long as the rate of fire and propeller spin are synchronized. The bullets literally pass through between the propeller blades. It's pretty slick.


Did they have that technology in WWII ??? Even if they did, I would still be scared to pull the trigger. One loose bolt or miscalibration and your going for a nose dive :shock:


They had that technology before World War I. The biplanes and triplanes iconic of that era typically mounted guns infront of the pilot, behind the prop.

Humorously, when they first tried to arm one of those planes, the engineers thought that the prop would be spinning so fast and the bullets travelling so fast that the odds of the two colliding were insignificant. Of course, there's a pretty significant logical fallacy there, and the first test firing of the guns shot the prop off. I believe their next approach was to simply armor the back of the wooden prop with steel or iron sheets, but that deflected the rounds back into the cockpit - not good. Both tales might be urban legends, but the bottomline is that they eventually rigged the firing mechanism to the engine using an "interrupter gear".

As to the model of the airplane, I kept seeing a Crimson Skies/Sky Captain/Tail-Spin mutated P-38, partly because the colors match up to the Gobot Guardian Bolt. I certainly see similarities to the FW-189 now that it has been pointed out though. To further complicate things, though, someone else pointed out that the stubby wings and enormous props are reminiscent of the experimental XF5U Flapjack and its flight capable precursor the V-173. I think it's funny that while any of these aircraft would be respectable alternate modes, the compromise represented by Highbrow's design probably wouldn't get off the ground.

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:11 pm
by Razorclaw0000
Caelus wrote:I think it's funny that while any of these aircraft would be respectable alternate modes, the compromise represented by Highbrow's design probably wouldn't get off the ground.


And I think you hit the nail right on the head.

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:38 pm
by Rated X
Razorclaw0000 wrote:
Caelus wrote:I think it's funny that while any of these aircraft would be respectable alternate modes, the compromise represented by Highbrow's design probably wouldn't get off the ground.


And I think you hit the nail right on the head.


Aint that the truth ??? :lol:

Re: Highbrow and The Fallen - New Hunt for the Decepticons Toy Galleries!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:50 pm
by funklizard
Caelus wrote:I think it's funny that while any of these aircraft would be respectable alternate modes, the compromise represented by Highbrow's design probably wouldn't get off the ground.

Heh… Not even with the assistance of a jet engine?

I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone else mention this… but doesn't the nose look like a jet intake?

It's a shame it doesn't look more like a P-38. That's a good looking plane. But in addition to questionable airworthiness, the mishmash of different design elements in Highbrow's alt mode winds up looking rather unbalanced. When I saw the first pictures of this alt mode, I thought I was seeing an unfinished figure that was missing some pieces.

Bot mode isn't bad, but isn't that great either.

I actually like where they were going with this guy's retro design aesthetic; but I'll pass.