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An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:32 am
by MINDVVIPE
Its probably not the most feasable idea, but I was just looking at my Deluxe Universe Sunstreaker, and I was thinkin' how cool it'd be to have his head become a headmaster. Its pretty small a head obviously (although not as small as some deluxe), But If it had pivots for atleast some transformation to be able to stand on it's own would be so rad. Hell, voyagers too, stuff with ball joints, hehe.
NOT at the expense of the head looking bad though, even if it makes the figure a lil wierd. Anyway, if any of you customizers are reading, take a shot at it, i'd give you my money.
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Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:35 am
by Autobot Strider
It would be very cool, but quite difficult I imagine.

Just think back to G1 "The Rebirth":

Designer #1: So, what should Daniel's exo suit look like when he's not part of Headmaster Arcee's Head?

Designer #2: Uhhh, just use his exo-suit from the movie.

D#1: But, how would that work, it looks nothing like Arcee's head!

D#2: Who cares? No one would ever want to buy an Arcee toy anyway, we're in the clear!

D#1: Oh, what am I thinking? Of course you are right. Movie exo-suit it is!

D#2: And just to further drive people nuts, let's show him in his exo-suit, inside Arcee's head, which is his exo-suit. Ha!

;)

Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:29 am
by zodconvoy
I had considered doing one at first but it's just too small. That and by the time Universe Sunstreaker came out, he wasn't a Headmaster anymore.

Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:42 am
by Counterpunch
I got an upgrade kit for my United Perceptor. It was called "Revel the Shield Perceptor". Pulled off the arms and scope, replaced the United one...presto-change-o, I have a super-awesome Perceptor.

And the chest chrome? Forget about it. Don't believe the hype, the United paint actually looks better.

Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:46 am
by Flux Convoy
Counterpunch wrote:I got an upgrade kit for my United Perceptor. It was called "Revel the Shield Perceptor". Pulled off the arms and scope, replaced the United one...presto-change-o, I have a super-awesome Perceptor.

And the chest chrome? Forget about it. Don't believe the hype, the United paint actually looks better.

We were led to believe you couldn't do this. Not you personally, just in general. This is what I was wanting to attempt as well. I agree with your second point as well. I was gonna just roll with the United version if none of the chrome bits could be transplanted. I'd be happy with that one.
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Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:51 am
by Counterpunch
Flux Convoy wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:I got an upgrade kit for my United Perceptor. It was called "Revel the Shield Perceptor". Pulled off the arms and scope, replaced the United one...presto-change-o, I have a super-awesome Perceptor.

And the chest chrome? Forget about it. Don't believe the hype, the United paint actually looks better.

We were led to believe you couldn't do this. Not you personally, just in general. This is what I was wanting to attempt as well. I agree with your second point as well. I was gonna just roll with the United version if none of the chrome bits could be transplanted. I'd be happy with that one.
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It's 100% possible. You even have a few options as to how to do it.

The scope is an easy swap and it improves the vehicle lights by placing a yellow light between the two white lights. Nice effect, plus added chrome to the United version.

Where the arms are concerned, you can pop the entire arm off (not recommended) or you can pop them off near the bicep and swap. The blue and red plastics match 100%. The only thing that was too hard to swap was the chest part. After getting them, I decided not only was it not worth the work, but the paint on the United version is shiny in of itself. It looks better than the chrome on the RTS chest.

Have Frankenstein Perceptor, have fun.

Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:55 am
by Flux Convoy
Interesting to know the red and blue are the same. I had no idea. United Perceptor is still in a POL. I've had a Generations Perceptor just chillin' in a Target bag for like a month now. LOL.
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Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:59 am
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Counterpunch wrote:
Have Frankenstein Perceptor, have fun.

Considering the character... that is eerie appropriate.

As for the topic, no way. It'd be way too small and pretty much a lump of barely-painted plastic with maybe opening up.

Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:03 am
by Counterpunch
Flux Convoy wrote:Interesting to know the red and blue are the same. I had no idea. United Perceptor is still in a POL. I've had a Generations Perceptor just chillin' in a Target bag for like a month now. LOL.
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I hate to be "that" guy, but the United version makes the RTS version's plastic look like a melted red candle where the richest pigment has been burned out.

I really hate how Hasbro has been dealing with the color red for the past 2 years. Now, that is an actual complaint about Hasbro. I feel like they've got someone who is partially red/green color blind doing all their red figures. Have any of them been correct since Universe Sideswipe? (I'm not counting Powerglide either. That old boy is pink-ish. If you don't have the Japanese version to compare it to, we aren't even discussing the matter. [not directed at Flux])

Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:46 am
by SJ21
I just laughed at my computer screen reading about you and your multiple Perceptor figures. "I swapped parts with my other one" and "I have one in my POL and one sitting in a Target bag". It's funny because I was just reading through multiple threads complaining about how people all over the country can't find these guys online or at retail.

(I am not begrudging any of you, it just stuck me as funny.)

Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:31 am
by Counterpunch
SJ21 wrote:I just laughed at my computer screen reading about you and your multiple Perceptor figures. "I swapped parts with my other one" and "I have one in my POL and one sitting in a Target bag". It's funny because I was just reading through multiple threads complaining about how people all over the country can't find these guys online or at retail.

(I am not begrudging any of you, it just stuck me as funny.)


We're ballin' outrageous!

Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:39 am
by Flux Convoy
Counterpunch wrote:
SJ21 wrote:I just laughed at my computer screen reading about you and your multiple Perceptor figures. "I swapped parts with my other one" and "I have one in my POL and one sitting in a Target bag". It's funny because I was just reading through multiple threads complaining about how people all over the country can't find these guys online or at retail.

(I am not begrudging any of you, it just stuck me as funny.)


We're ballin' outrageous!

Yuuup! Oh and hey, if you can't find Perceptor or anything earlier than him for Generations, man get to a Walmart. That **** is everywhere. Good luck on the Wreck-Gars and newer though. I bought 2 of the 4 I've seen and that's all I've seen. Wish I'd had the cash for the other 2 as well. I has plans.
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Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:13 pm
by STINGRAY749
Man youre lucky ive only seen one of wrekgar and proceptor. I didnt have money for them until i got home. The next day i got there and saw a guy in the row taking every rts transformer there. I asked what the hell he was doing and he said "Im goin to sell them for double on line and the ones that dont sell im goin to throw away." After that he walked away wnd so i left too. His car was right next to my parents car and then i saw him drive across the road to a comic book store and grab the bags from the trunk if his car and bring them to the store. After that i eould never buy a tf at that target again. ( sorry for getting off topic i just had to get this off my chest. Its been bugging me for a while.

Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:21 pm
by MINDVVIPE
t$money$49 wrote:Man youre lucky ive only seen one of wrekgar and proceptor. I didnt have money for them until i got home. The next day i got there and saw a guy in the row taking every rts transformer there. I asked what the hell he was doing and he said "Im goin to sell them for double on line and the ones that dont sell im goin to throw away." After that he walked away wnd so i left too. His car was right next to my parents car and then i saw him drive across the road to a comic book store and grab the bags from the trunk if his car and bring them to the store. After that i eould never buy a tf at that target again. ( sorry for getting off topic i just had to get this off my chest. Its been bugging me for a while.


Yea thats some real douchebag s#!t right there. People really have such little creativity? or no better an idea of how to spend their time making money? I would have just pushed the fag over and taken what I wanted. Yes, I'm a Decepticon for a reason.
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Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:57 pm
by STINGRAY749
I would have done that except that the guy was a good 100 pounds heavier than me and i weigh 160 pounds. And also there were employes in the area and what was weird was that he was taking only rts and not the generations next to the rts( which were kup and scouge).

Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:07 pm
by MINDVVIPE
t$money$49 wrote:I would have done that except that the guy was a good 100 pounds heavier than me and i weigh 160 pounds. And also there were employes in the area and what was weird was that he was taking only rts and not the generations next to the rts( which were kup and scouge).


Hehe, yea fair enough, It would have to be conditions in my favour to do what I said, but I think I would have come up with something to ruin his day, hehehe :twisted: Pretty much the reason why I have sorta given up figure searching; I just go online and pay extra to save the hastle.

Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:54 pm
by STINGRAY749
MINDVVIPE wrote:
t$money$49 wrote:I would have done that except that the guy was a good 100 pounds heavier than me and i weigh 160 pounds. And also there were employes in the area and what was weird was that he was taking only rts and not the generations next to the rts( which were kup and scouge).


Hehe, yea fair enough, It would have to be conditions in my favour to do what I said, but I think I would have come up with something to ruin his day, hehehe :twisted: Pretty much the reason why I have sorta given up figure searching; I just go online and pay extra to save the hastle.

Ya im starting to do that i had to go online to buy rts lugnut but it was only $5 more than retail with shipping. To me it still seems weird that he didnt buy the kup and scourge. Also ive seen the guy again but he didnt notice me. Again only buying rts but the rts shelf warmers. I think he is buying them because he likes the figs that are remakes of g1 guys but then why didnt he get the generations. Eh i dont know all i can say is that he lost some weight i estamate 20pounds.

I got a question that is a little off topic but is gen. blurr, thunderwing, rts g2 prime, wrekgar, and precopter worth getting.

Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:06 pm
by MINDVVIPE
t$money$49 wrote:I got a question that is a little off topic but is gen. blurr, thunderwing, rts g2 prime, wrekgar, and precopter worth getting.



Short answer: Yes

If you are a huge fan of G1, then they're all essential except for rts G2 Prime. They are all great figures, but I passed on Thunderwing due to size, and a lack of a knee/thigh swivel, plus I'm not a huge fan of the colour scheme, but hey If you like Jet TFs and a supposedly mighty powerful Decepticon, why not.

Blurr is alright in regards to engineering (cool holsters for pistols), and the aesthetics are nice in both modes, but a lil more cruddy in vehicle mode due to a lil rough paint and a few seams not lining up perfect. Guns, and poseability make up for it as they're enough to make him look sweet in some poses (got him to do a running pose too)

Perceptor is also really sweet, but there are a few smaller drawbacks like poseability. His head doesn't swivel around any more than a classics Seeker jet mold, and the back is a lil annoying as it comes out of 'lock' when moving his arms around too much. But he looks awesome, and the poses you can put him in easily make up for it. The vehicle mode looks good, but doesn't offer too much excitement on the shelf (beware low clearance underneath vehicle mode).

Wreck-Gar is a must, he's unique in almost every way, but be warned, the paint on the face of mine isn't the BEST, but paseable. He looks great, with great poseability like most new RTS and GEN molds, and suffers less drawbacks as the others mentioned.
I don't own G2 rts prime, but if you need another optimus in your collection at a deluxe size, go for it, looks like a fun transformtion and variety of poseability.

Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:23 pm
by Kibble
Counterpunch wrote:I got an upgrade kit for my United Perceptor. It was called "Revel the Shield Perceptor". Pulled off the arms and scope, replaced the United one...presto-change-o, I have a super-awesome Perceptor.

And the chest chrome? Forget about it. Don't believe the hype, the United paint actually looks better.

Sounds interesting...pic?

Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:40 am
by Counterpunch
Kibble wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:I got an upgrade kit for my United Perceptor. It was called "Revel the Shield Perceptor". Pulled off the arms and scope, replaced the United one...presto-change-o, I have a super-awesome Perceptor.

And the chest chrome? Forget about it. Don't believe the hype, the United paint actually looks better.

Sounds interesting...pic?


Yea, I can do that. I've been at work in the den rearranging the collection. So, I'll get him down for a few pics probably later tonight.

Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:18 pm
by Dead Metal
Counterpunch wrote:I got an upgrade kit for my United Perceptor. It was called "Revel the Shield Perceptor". Pulled off the arms and scope, replaced the United one...presto-change-o, I have a super-awesome Perceptor.

And the chest chrome? Forget about it. Don't believe the hype, the United paint actually looks better.

That's hilarious! :lol:
I would do the same if RTS Perceptor wouldn't cost me just as much as United Perceptor. Maybe Kapow can help me out....

Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:32 pm
by Windsweeper
I'd love a G1 style head to attach to ROTF Nightbeat and Dead End. Doesn't have 2 be a Headmaster though it would be nice if it were.

Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:47 pm
by Nujevad
Getting back to Headmaster Sunstreaker, you can make up for the lack of bulk by integrating his intakes into the back of the headmaster. The old intake will just be used on his gun in robot mode.

As for an upgrade I want to see, how about upgrades for beast wars toys? A new head and sword for Dinobot? New wings for Beast Machines Silverbolt? A Botanica figure?

Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:19 pm
by Counterpunch
Kibble wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:I got an upgrade kit for my United Perceptor. It was called "Revel the Shield Perceptor". Pulled off the arms and scope, replaced the United one...presto-change-o, I have a super-awesome Perceptor.

And the chest chrome? Forget about it. Don't believe the hype, the United paint actually looks better.

Sounds interesting...pic?


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Re: An upgrade for figures

PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:09 pm
by Kibble
Thanks. Damn...that does look pretty badass. Is the shoulder cannon connected just by what looks to be a screw underneath? I saw the arms are a piece of cake to swap.

Then the question is will these be available again anytime soon for less than the $43 or so that I could still currently land one?