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Rumor or Fact? DOTM Sentinal Prime has been KO??

PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 6:23 am
by xterry
News from ACTOYS
http://bbs.actoys.net/read.php?tid=640197&page=e&#a

one of the Member(also a toy store people) said he found the KO Sentinal Prime.

but before everything, he is using the Chinese Offical edition to do compare...and my English suck...I knew....

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the different that he talking about, is the feeling of the box, and...

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of course, we dont have Chinese words there. if we have, that will be a big bug!!!! god dmn bless I dont have to see that dumb name in Mandarin.

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and the other different is: the Iron Mark, and the factory info, of course, since different area, the Chinese Edition will have different info from ours.
and Im not sure, but my Iron mark is not on the buttom of the box, it's in the back of the box...so this still not a main point.

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i see no different inside the pack...

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well, our USA verson will of course dont have this 3C sticker

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he said the instructions will have different feel.

ok, here's the main point.

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the KO one will have 2 wheels in his leg....
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this is really a main point, but here's what am I thinking about, will this one really a KO one? if someone wants to make a KO, why he will make SP's leg like this? I dont think it will save more money when he do a different part from the real one, right?

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and basic by the offical picture, 2 wheels on the leg will be the way that SP suppose be, right?

so here's what I think:
1, maybe this is just a QC problem of the SP, like the crankcase's finger, if the iron mark before 105, will have uncut, if 106, cutted, so like my SP, have iron mark 106, of course the folded wheels, but how about 103~105? let's keep our eye open, to see what's going on.

2, the other chance of this issue, maybe someone put the loose one back to the box and re-sell. Yes, this will happen in China, sometime they will get the Loose(or they call sample, or early bird?), but sometime they may have chance to get the box, just the box only, then they will put the loose one back to the box, and make this happen...


still, let's keep our eye open, and see what's going on.

Re: Rumor or Fact? DOTM Sentinal Prime has been KO??

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 2:38 pm
by SnapTrap
Thanks for the info on this xterry. It will be interesting to find out if this is really a KO (I hope not) or as you mentioned an early return that wasn't transformed properly.

Re: Rumor or Fact? DOTM Sentinal Prime has been KO??

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 6:10 pm
by Bonecrusher27
Well I don't know about Sentinel Prime, but...


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Actually I've always been amazed at the interest in KOs. They abound here aplenty, and they all look crappy.

Re: Rumor or Fact? DOTM Sentinal Prime has been KO??

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 1:21 pm
by freaky777
If not for the "Evil Demons", I think its quite hard to tell if its a KO.

Re: Rumor or Fact? DOTM Sentinal Prime has been KO??

PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:25 am
by gavinfuzzy
Too good to be KO. Im sure he's comparing china to US versions...

Re: Rumor or Fact? DOTM Sentinal Prime has been KO??

PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 11:28 am
by Bonecrusher27
gavinfuzzy wrote:Too good to be KO. Im sure he's comparing china to US versions...


Are you talking about the Prime or the Barricade?

Re: Rumor or Fact? DOTM Sentinal Prime has been KO??

PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 12:07 pm
by Sentinelprimal
I the last 4 I could find for $47.99 usd a piece if anyone needs 1 id be happy to ship for price I got it. I love it, I'm willing to give away 2 for any fans like myself.

Re: Rumor or Fact? DOTM Sentinal Prime has been KO??

PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 1:58 pm
by PrymeStriker
Bonecrusher27 wrote:
gavinfuzzy wrote:Too good to be KO. Im sure he's comparing china to US versions...


Are you talking about the Prime or the Barricade?


Obvious S.Prime. Barricade looks like, junk.

Re: Rumor or Fact? DOTM Sentinal Prime has been KO??

PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:11 pm
by Chaoslock
Bonecrusher27 wrote:Well I don't know about Sentinel Prime, but...


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Actually I've always been amazed at the interest in KOs. They abound here aplenty, and they all look crappy.



Wow, that was FAST!

Re: Rumor or Fact? DOTM Sentinal Prime has been KO??

PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 7:58 pm
by funklizard
Chaoslock wrote:Wow, that was FAST!

Seriously. Too fast to have been reverse engineered. Hasbro/TakaraTomy may have a real problem on their hands.

Nowadays, "stealing" a mold is very likely as simple selling someone a copy of a computer file for a CAD program. That means there's no missing physical property to account for.

I'm reminded of the recent thread here that pondered the virtues of moving manufacturing of these toys back to the US. One advantage that I don't recall seeing mentioned is that crimes like these would be easier to identify and prosecute (and maybe even prevent).

Re: Rumor or Fact? DOTM Sentinal Prime has been KO??

PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:30 pm
by Amelie
I am sure that Hasbro|Takara include forgeries\cloning of thier molds in thier costs\profit calculations - the price of manufacturing in America may simply not be worthwhile, despite the knock-offs. Its a huge pity, but unless the Dollar takes a downward spiral and America starts becoming the kind of country that can mass-produce (and looking at the countries that ARE mass-producing, do you really want most citizens to be that poor?), we're not going to see American produced toys for some time.

Re: Rumor or Fact? DOTM Sentinal Prime has been KO??

PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 12:14 am
by SKYWARPED_128
I don't think the fact that the wheels are tucked up means that it's a KO. At my hobby store, I've seen Sentinel Primes with the wheels both tucked up and lined up in the same batch of toys. BTW, there's actually a space in the plastic tray for the wheels when tucked up, so it's probably just individual factory workers packing the toys up differently at the assembly line.

EDIT: It ain't no KO. I just transformed my Sentinel Prime for the first time, and the wheels are supposed to be tucked like in the supposed American KO version. This is probably old news for those who've already transformed their SPor watched a review, but the hollow space is supposed to be covered up by a flap.

We can all buy our Sentinel Primes with a peace of mind.

Re: Rumor or Fact? DOTM Sentinal Prime has been KO??

PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 6:42 am
by gavinfuzzy
Gyrotron wrote:
Bonecrusher27 wrote:
gavinfuzzy wrote:Too good to be KO. Im sure he's comparing china to US versions...


Are you talking about the Prime or the Barricade?


Obvious S.Prime. Barricade looks like, junk.


Yeah tnks for answering that for me lols ;D

Re: Rumor or Fact? DOTM Sentinal Prime has been KO??

PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:06 pm
by bumble_bee_68
Sentinelprimal wrote:I the last 4 I could find for $47.99 usd a piece if anyone needs 1 id be happy to ship for price I got it. I love it, I'm willing to give away 2 for any fans like myself.



Sorry to sound like a jerk, but this smells fishy spammy to me. =;
You have 1 post, and you're trying to sell a knock off for way more than US retail of the real deal (which I have seen at every store I've been to)

Sorry, bub. Not gonna fall for it. Try ebay (good luck) :KREMZEEK: