The Energon Pub

1980's Duo-cons,should they become updated new mold tripple changers instead?

Would todays kids & casual TF toy buyers feel ripped off & dis-pleased if they bought a 2 pack of toys,that didn't have individual transforming robot modes?

So my questions is Would anyone mind if Flywheels & battletrap got updated new molds that were tripple changers. basically they still have their 2 alt modes & their one robot mode. I suspose best of all they could make great repaints potential. hasbro could repaint a updated duocon flywheel in 1988 masterforce overlord colors with a new robot head. hasbro could repaint duocon battle trap in 1989 sandstorm colors.

I remember the on-line TF fan complaints on every single TF moderated message boards. regarding the PCC combiners not having limbs/drones that transformed into individual tiny robot modes. the complaints also were their when TF internet fans found out the ROTF supreme sized devestator had no individual tiny transforming robot modes.

Updated new mold duocons,Obviously the smaller the size scale/price. the less complaints would come in. the less noticeable they'll be.
if their legends ot basic sized they'll be less noticeable. ANYTHING LIKE DELUXES OR VOYAGERS FOR THE UPDATED DUOCONS THAT HAVE NO INDIVIDUAL TINY ROBOT MODES WILL STICK OUT MORE LIKE A SORE THUMB.

Where does the 'triple' part come in? Two separate vehicles and a combined robot mode isn't a triple changer.

I thought you were suggesting two transformers with individual alt modes and robot modes that combine into another robot. That could be really cool (like Energon but good) but doesn't seem to be what you're talking about.

Mykltron wrote:Where does the 'triple' part come in? Two separate vehicles and a combined robot mode isn't a triple changer.

I thought you were suggesting two transformers with individual alt modes and robot modes that combine into another robot. That could be really cool (like Energon but good) but doesn't seem to be what you're talking about.

Anything goes with hasbro. They even promoted ROTF soundwave's random wing configuration as various "jets" so 1 bot + 2 alt = threeplechanger

they called the ice cream twins triplechangers too

Mykltron wrote:Where does the 'triple' part come in? Two separate vehicles and a combined robot mode isn't a triple changer.

I thought you were suggesting two transformers with individual alt modes and robot modes that combine into another robot. That could be really cool (like Energon but good) but doesn't seem to be what you're talking about.

NO,I was referring to the updated new mold duocons being tripple changers. with one singular toy that had 2 alt modes & one robot mode incorporated into a singular design sculpt. like blitzwing has.

I say no. Keep the original gimmick when re-imagining and redesigning characters, don't turn it into something another subgroup already has. Triplechangers are hard enough to design as it is.

What would be the ideal thing is to have two Scout-sized vehicles, and have them combine like the Energon Powerlinx figures, or the Multiforce from Victory. But you're right in that the kids may not like the idea.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I say no. Keep the original gimmick when re-imagining and redesigning characters, don't turn it into something another subgroup already has. Triplechangers are hard enough to design as it is.

What would be the ideal thing is to have two Scout-sized vehicles, and have them combine like the Energon Powerlinx figures, or the Multiforce from Victory. But you're right in that the kids may not like the idea.

I agree. I think Hasbro got away with a lot of things in the 1980's because the toy technology was very primitive to the superior/advanced way it is now 27+years later.

I think they can keep the gimmick. After all, wasn't Supreme Devestator kind of like the Duocons? Only with 6 vehicles rather than 2?

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I think they can keep the gimmick. After all, wasn't Supreme Devestator kind of like the Duocons? Only with 6 vehicles rather than 2?

And the TF internet fans rage was all over the internet with fans/customers/kids being upset about their being no individual robots modes for the supreme ROTF constructicons & the PCC combiners drones.

I agree with what others are saying. People will go nuts if the Duocons are changed into triple changers.

deathy wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I think they can keep the gimmick. After all, wasn't Supreme Devestator kind of like the Duocons? Only with 6 vehicles rather than 2?

And the TF internet fans rage was all over the internet with fans/customers/kids being upset about their being no individual robots modes for the supreme ROTF constructicons & the PCC combiners drones.

Well, sure for the character of Devestator amond G1 fans, sure. Didn't help that the Constructicons had other toys with robot modes. But there's still the basic toy which seemed to do well enough in the stores I went to.

And what about Magmatron? Again, same basic concept, only with three beasts.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

deathy wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I think they can keep the gimmick. After all, wasn't Supreme Devestator kind of like the Duocons? Only with 6 vehicles rather than 2?

And the TF internet fans rage was all over the internet with fans/customers/kids being upset about their being no individual robots modes for the supreme ROTF constructicons & the PCC combiners drones.

Well, sure for the character of Devestator amond G1 fans, sure. Didn't help that the Constructicons had other toys with robot modes. But there's still the basic toy which seemed to do well enough in the stores I went to.

And what about Magmatron? Again, same basic concept, only with three beasts.

I actually bought the Walmart store exclusive ROTF Legends sized devestator. because I felt the colors were a homage to the diaclone constructicons. I honestly feel the most accurate toy size is either legends or basic sized for the 1985 G-1 Constructicons toys. as the 1985 G-1 Constructicons were smaller than todays basics & yet a bit bigger than todays legends sized TF toys.

I bought the ROTF Supreme devestator. since some TF Packages have a sticker that says "TRY ME". I basically tried it & didn't like it so I returned it a few days later for a 100% refund.

Unlike the Duocons and ROTF Supreme Devy, Magmatron not only had a combined robot mode, but had a second combined mode as well. Armad Tidalwave took it one step further by doing what Magmatron did and added a power-up mode for Megatron as well.