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Open Hands vs. Fist Holes & RTS at Ollie's!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:36 pm
by Duke of Luns
Hey gang, this is going to be a two in one topic.

The first: Reveal the Shield Deluxe Figures are at Ollie's!! $7.99!!!! Finally got Wreck-Gar and G2 Prime.

However, when I stuck the weapons in their hands...stress marks. Blasted stupid stress marks. I know about the hair dryer trick, but it's the possibility of breaking that I don't like, and it's hard to enjoy a figure with that in mind. So I've done my best to sand down the handles of their weapons.

But my question is: why? Why should I even have to do that? I'd have been just as happy if Hasbro had used the old stand by of fists with holes in the center. Very very rarely have I ever had a problem with that.

Yet there have been a few references(though no breakages on my part) about these newish open hands breaking: Animated Arcee's thumbs, HFTD Bludgeon's hands, and I'm sure somewhere down the road there will likely be reports of RTS Prime and Wreck-Gar's hands breaking.

So what do you guys think, open hands, yay or nay?

Re: Open Hands vs. Fist Holes & RTS at Ollie's!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:43 pm
by RhA
If it means a more durable figure... Go Hasbro, go.

Or just use better plastics.

(Bloody stressmarks are the f****** norm these days.)

Re: Open Hands vs. Fist Holes & RTS at Ollie's!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:54 pm
by paul053
For Wreck-Gar, don't insert weapon from the middle. Let him hold the weapon from the bottom tip. I know, we shouldn't do that.

Personally I support and prefer fist holes. Open hands are so far disastrous and they only look good while not holding anything. There are only few of them designed well. RTS Jazz and Generations Straxsus whose is even articulated.

Re: Open Hands vs. Fist Holes & RTS at Ollie's!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:21 pm
by Powermaster Jazz
I prefer fists with holes or collapsible fingers. Those little thumbs are too fragile.

Re: Open Hands vs. Fist Holes & RTS at Ollie's!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:53 pm
by GuyIncognito
Fists with holes > open hands

Re: Open Hands vs. Fist Holes & RTS at Ollie's!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:00 pm
by Motorthing
Fists/holes are way better and look more convincing in fight poses anyway. The only open hand design that looks any good is Spec Ops. Jazz - at least his weapon sits well without cracking the plastic.

Re: Open Hands vs. Fist Holes & RTS at Ollie's!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:58 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Definitely fist holes. Absolutely nothing wrong with them and a lot better than those fragile open hands.

Re: Open Hands vs. Fist Holes & RTS at Ollie's!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:09 pm
by Mkall
I noticed on a couple of recent figures (Tracks/Wheeljack maybe?) that when inserting the weapon, it didn't even come in contact with the thumb, instead cliping into a molded inset inside the hand. I like that compromise.

I too prefer fists to open hands, at least the hands where the thumbs could snap off. I believe that Hasbro went with the open hand to allow for a little extra flexibility in design, since a closed fist needs a thicker arm to encirle it, which would then impede the design in some cases.

Re: Open Hands vs. Fist Holes & RTS at Ollie's!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:42 pm
by fenrir72
fist holes.

Re: Open Hands vs. Fist Holes & RTS at Ollie's!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:49 pm
by TulioDude
This changes much form figure to figure.

Re: Open Hands vs. Fist Holes & RTS at Ollie's!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:33 pm
by Valandar
Spec Ops Jazz has the best of both worlds - open hands that look decent holding a weapon OR not holding one.

But if i had to choose... Open hands, but with better plastics.

Re: Open Hands vs. Fist Holes & RTS at Ollie's!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:07 pm
by Galvatron X
Can we please come up with a better term than "fist holes"? :lol:

How about "closed hands"?


Ehhhh, an open hand looks slightly better to me, but if it avoids stress marks - I'll take closed hands.

Re: Open Hands vs. Fist Holes & RTS at Ollie's!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:20 pm
by Erailea
Galvatron X wrote:Ehhhh, an open hand looks slightly better to me, but if it avoids stress marks - I'll take closed hands.


Ditto.

The open hand is more appealing to me. The fists might be sturdier, but they seem much more "blah." But if it keeps the hands from breaking I'd rather have the "blah" than the "D;"

Re: Open Hands vs. Fist Holes & RTS at Ollie's!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:21 pm
by MGrotusque
I like em both. I admit though that i'm bored of fists with every figure though. The open hands are a welcome but subtle creative change. They make the figures a little more dynamic in my opinion instead of the status quo of a static fist.
Also i haven't had any issues with stress marks by the way.

Re: Open Hands vs. Fist Holes & RTS at Ollie's!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:39 am
by Mykltron
Motorthing wrote:Fists/holes are way better and look more convincing in fight poses anyway.


This.

I haven't had stress mark trouble but I prefer fists.

Re: Open Hands vs. Fist Holes & RTS at Ollie's!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:47 am
by MGrotusque
Mykltron wrote:
Motorthing wrote:Fists/holes are way better and look more convincing in fight poses anyway.


This.

I haven't had stress mark trouble but I prefer fists.



I also don't always have my figures in fighting/action poses. So the open hands seem appropriate. Not so tense.