The Energon Pub

I had a very special Christmas this year, On Christmas Eve I stumbled on and snapped up a G1 Factory Sealed Mint condition Headmaster Horrorcon Snapdragon.

The seller held onto it over the Christmas and New Year period so it would not end up stuck in some postal warehouse over the festive season. He posted it Friday Via Special Delivery and I got it Saturday Morning.

I opened the parcel box carefully to take a peak at the contents, and slowly removed the transformer. I think amongst the excitement I'm positive the big butch man that I am actually squealed like a little girl.

I placed atop the delivery box carefully and took these pictures before tucking it safely away, back in its delivery box.

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After boxing it back up, I then placed that box in an even bigger box, which I packed with bubble-wrap and sealed up ready to be sent off for grading and casing.

Double boxing, its the only way to be sure.

Another lovely brick! And I mean it in a very nice way because I also own one. Congratulations with the find! Hope you can also score Apeface and the other 1st gen headmasters. All bricks with an attitude.

But... why have you tucked him away? He was one of my favourites as a child.

fenrir72 wrote::APPLAUSE: Another lovely brick! And I mean it in a very nice way because I also own one. Congratulations with the find! Hope you can also score Apeface and the other 1st gen headmasters. All bricks with an attitude.

For headmasters I currently have a UKG 80 Skullcruncher, an AFA 80 Fangry, This snapdragon, and currently getting a factory sealed Weirdwolf, and have a factory sealed Powermaster Optimus Prime, and a UKG 60 Darkwing.

I need an Apeface next, then Mindwipe and then more of the headmaster mini's Horri-Bull and Squeeze-play, then that will be the Deceptions done, apart from Scorponock which I am not holding my breath about ever finding.

For the moment though I just want a decent Apeface to go with his brother.

Mykltron wrote:But... why have you tucked him away? He was one of my favourites as a child.

Because I actually respect the history of these rare toys, there are only a handful of this figure still factory sealed in this condition around in the world today. As others have pointed out to me, this guy is like rocking-horse **** to get hold of.

So he's going on a journey to be graded and cased to ensure nothing else can happen to him, he's too delicate at the moment, he needs protecting.

wraith2021 wrote:

Mykltron wrote:But... why have you tucked him away? He was one of my favourites as a child.

Because I actually respect the history of these rare toys, there are only a handful of this figure still factory sealed in this condition around in the world today. As others have pointed out to me, this guy is like rocking-horse **** to get hold of.

So he's going on a journey to be graded and cased to ensure nothing else can happen to him, he's too delicate at the moment, he needs protecting.

I appreciate guys like you, keeping stuff like-new for people like me to buy and open at a later date. But try and pick up a loose one as well, he's really quite nice, pretty articulated for a G1, and all 3 modes are pretty decent.

Another Transformer unjustly incarcerated in solitary confinement for life when his only crime was being born.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:Another Transformer unjustly incarcerated in solitary confinement for life when his only crime was being born.

With a comment like that I can easily assume that this figure is probably older than you.

Simply because the only people who make comments like this are either:

A) Jealous.

B) Have absolutely no emotional bond with these figure because they were before their time.

The fact that this figure has lasted this long, in the condition it is in is a testament to those who had the foresight to keep them that way, this is a real piece of transformers history, I respect this history, and these are relics from that era.

And no other incarnation be it bay-formers or any other half-assed spin off would ever gain as much respect as the one that set everything off. Because if it wasn't for people like me, who helped make transformer the phenomenon that it became back in the 80's, by buying all the toys and reading the comics and watching the TV series. You wouldn't be on this board today, making you lame-ass comment, because this site would not exist.

I think he was just being funny mein freund. Anyway, just like you, I hope to be able to score a descent/complete Scorponok too. One of the greatest failure of my life was being just out of high school, lunch money in hand, going to the mall to get the last in stock Scorponok, during a tropical typhoon and finding it...........SOLD OUT

craggy wrote:

wraith2021 wrote:

Mykltron wrote:But... why have you tucked him away? He was one of my favourites as a child.

Because I actually respect the history of these rare toys, there are only a handful of this figure still factory sealed in this condition around in the world today. As others have pointed out to me, this guy is like rocking-horse **** to get hold of.

So he's going on a journey to be graded and cased to ensure nothing else can happen to him, he's too delicate at the moment, he needs protecting.

I appreciate guys like you, keeping stuff like-new for people like me to buy and open at a later date. But try and pick up a loose one as well, he's really quite nice, pretty articulated for a G1, and all 3 modes are pretty decent.

Who says your gonna be able to buy him?

They are gonna have to pry him from my corpse along with all my other transformers, he is not for sale, now or ever.

I don't need a loose Snapdragon, I had him when I was a kid, he was a great toy, I remember him as clear as day.

wraith2021 wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:Another Transformer unjustly incarcerated in solitary confinement for life when his only crime was being born.

With a comment like that I can easily assume that this figure is probably older than you.

Simply because the only people who make comments like this are either:

A) Jealous.

B) Have absolutely no emotional bond with these figure because they were before their time.

You can assume anything you like but you would be wrong because I was born in 1978:

A) I have that figure in pretty good shape, but If I had him MISB I would open it. So no jealousy here.

B) I have very emotional attachments to all my Transformers which is why I appreciate them the way they were supposed to be appreciated.

wraith2021 wrote:

craggy wrote:

wraith2021 wrote:

Mykltron wrote:But... why have you tucked him away? He was one of my favourites as a child.

Because I actually respect the history of these rare toys, there are only a handful of this figure still factory sealed in this condition around in the world today. As others have pointed out to me, this guy is like rocking-horse **** to get hold of.

So he's going on a journey to be graded and cased to ensure nothing else can happen to him, he's too delicate at the moment, he needs protecting.

I appreciate guys like you, keeping stuff like-new for people like me to buy and open at a later date. But try and pick up a loose one as well, he's really quite nice, pretty articulated for a G1, and all 3 modes are pretty decent.

Who says your gonna be able to buy him?

They are gonna have to pry him from my corpse along with all my other transformers, he is not for sale, now or ever.

I don't need a loose Snapdragon, I had him when I was a kid, he was a great toy, I remember him as clear as day.

I'm guessing you keep your humour along with any other good parts of your personality sealed away from everything as well?

craggy wrote:

wraith2021 wrote:

craggy wrote:

wraith2021 wrote:

Mykltron wrote:But... why have you tucked him away? He was one of my favourites as a child.

Because I actually respect the history of these rare toys, there are only a handful of this figure still factory sealed in this condition around in the world today. As others have pointed out to me, this guy is like rocking-horse **** to get hold of.

So he's going on a journey to be graded and cased to ensure nothing else can happen to him, he's too delicate at the moment, he needs protecting.

I appreciate guys like you, keeping stuff like-new for people like me to buy and open at a later date. But try and pick up a loose one as well, he's really quite nice, pretty articulated for a G1, and all 3 modes are pretty decent.

Who says your gonna be able to buy him?

They are gonna have to pry him from my corpse along with all my other transformers, he is not for sale, now or ever.

I don't need a loose Snapdragon, I had him when I was a kid, he was a great toy, I remember him as clear as day.

I'm guessing you keep your humour along with any other good parts of your personality sealed away from everything as well?

Sorry, Just reading that back, and it came across sterner than intended.

That second line was intended to be humours.

And the reason I say I don't need a loose one, is because it would end up getting trashed by the kids, as I don't play with them, so the memories this sealed ones brings is good enough for me.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

wraith2021 wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:Another Transformer unjustly incarcerated in solitary confinement for life when his only crime was being born.

With a comment like that I can easily assume that this figure is probably older than you.

Simply because the only people who make comments like this are either:

A) Jealous.

B) Have absolutely no emotional bond with these figure because they were before their time.

You can assume anything you like but you would be wrong because I was born in 1978:

A) I have that figure in pretty good shape, but If I had him MISB I would open it. So no jealousy here.

B) I have very emotional attachments to all my Transformers which is why I appreciate them the way they were supposed to be appreciated.

They were supposed to be appreciated by small children, which played with them. Are you a small child who plays with them?

Either way, you like opening them and playing with them, whereas that's the sort of thing I did as a child.

As an adult, I prefer to preserve a piece of transformers history like this for future generations to appreciate, in perfect (or as near as) condition as possible. I consider them to be a piece of history, in much the same way that an art collector appreciates fine art (and doesn't get out his box of crayons and draw a moustache on Botticelli's Venus for example).

You do your thing, I do mine.

Ditto bionic radical! No need to go ballistic wraith. Maybe you got Lost Cybertronian's post out of context because from the way I read the original post...........it was meant to be funny.

wraith2021 wrote:They were supposed to be appreciated by small children, which played with them. Are you a small child who plays with them?

Well I have always been a Toys "R" Us kid (even into my 30's) and I do play with them. I guess I just don't see how any appreciating can be done through a hard plastic case and a small plastic window. It just seems like all you are appreciating is the box.

Congrats on the purchase. It's very nice. Don't get worried about those who don't appreciate a collectors piece for what it is. I would keep it sealed too. If I wanted one to pose I would buy one already opened. Some people just don't see them for what they are, rare and only getting rarer due to people opening them.
Once it's opened there is no going back to the factory state(unless you lie about it).
It's one thing to run out to Walmart and get the latest figure, it's another to find a sweet piece that someone nurtured and cared for (for 20 years)to transfer to another who hopefully can do the same for it for preservation's sake. There is a wholeness to an unopened vintage piece like an original authentic G1 Snapdragon that few now days will ever hold.

That thing is AWESOPME!!! i'm mega jealous. I remember getting him as a kid and he never left my side for a long time. I would really love to have one minty like that.

I also have a sealed Grotusque that i haven't opened and won't. I have a bit of a curator style to collecting when it comes to certain items.

If i had one like your SnapDragon.....i wouldn't open him either.

Enjoy......you lucky bastard.

I know where your coming from. I personally dont own any MISB G1 figs but I do of newer TF's.

I almost always open my TFs, unless i pick up a double. But to this day I find it difficult to open action figures. Especially nowadays when the packaging looks just as cool as the figure inside! not to mention they are instant display cases. In fact the only action figures I open is my MOTUC figures.


I also saved alot of original ToyBiz Marvel figures from when I was a kid just because I knew that the adult me would appreciate the figures preserved. And even though they are not worth much today and it is fairly easy to get them MOSC, they are priceless to me.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

wraith2021 wrote:They were supposed to be appreciated by small children, which played with them. Are you a small child who plays with them?

Well I have always been a Toys "R" Us kid (even into my 30's) and I do play with them. I guess I just don't see how any appreciating can be done through a hard plastic case and a small plastic window. It just seems like all you are appreciating is the box.

Well everyone displays their TFs differently... I personally would leave them displayed open, no matter of age. If i bought the figure, i want to play with it, and not just see it from inside the box. Plus, taking it out means you can see it from more angles. Seems like just collecting boxes, if a Tf was just left in its box

DISCHARGE wrote:Congrats on the purchase. It's very nice. Don't get worried about those who don't appreciate a collectors piece for what it is. I would keep it sealed too. If I wanted one to pose I would buy one already opened. Some people just don't see them for what they are, rare and only getting rarer due to people opening them.
Once it's opened there is no going back to the factory state(unless you lie about it).
It's one thing to run out to Walmart and get the latest figure, it's another to find a sweet piece that someone nurtured and cared for (for 20 years)to transfer to another who hopefully can do the same for it for preservation's sake. There is a wholeness to an unopened vintage piece like an original authentic G1 Snapdragon that few now days will ever hold.

Thanks. G1 originals will always be held in a higher regard than any other line because they were the first. Without these there would never have been any of the later incarnations. Preserving the past is important, this is a real piece of transformers history, and I have nothing but utmost respect for those who had the foresight to preserve these figures.

I was one of these people, I kept a Smokescreen, Optimus Prime and Prowl sealed and in perfect condition in my mothers attic. But when I was 13 I was away on a school trip for a few days, and when I got back she had given all my MIB (yes I was one of those kids) transformers to my 3 year old nephew, as they had been in the attic for a few years she thought I would not be bothered about them, she never asked me. Now the MIB ones I could forgive, but she had also given him my MISB ones.

I rushed over to his house but it was too late, he had ripped them all open. I have never forgiven her to this day.

wraith2021 wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:Another Transformer unjustly incarcerated in solitary confinement for life when his only crime was being born.

With a comment like that I can easily assume that this figure is probably older than you.

Simply because the only people who make comments like this are either:

A) Jealous.

B) Have absolutely no emotional bond with these figure because they were before their time.

Be careful with assumptions. I agree with LOST Cybertronian's sentiment completely yet I was born in 76 and have my original Snapdragon. He is well played with yet still in close to mint condition with all stickers intact. The box is still in good nick to.

Having said that, the tone of this thread has made me a little uncomfortable. It was my question that started it, although someone else might have made a similar comment if I hadn't. Many of us don't understand wearth2021's desire to keep it boxed but we should just be happy for him for achieving one of his goals. I didn't realise it was still factory sealed so now I understand his reasoning for keeping it boxed. Maybe one day we will see a museum display with factory sealed Snapdragon alongside the toy displayed in each mode.

There have been plenty of threads discussing whether or not to keep figures boxed and this isn't one of them. Let's keep the discussion on-topic so it doesn't get locked and leave wraith2021 with a bad taste.

Thanks for the comments guys, he is a wonderful find. But he is also one of the rarest finds, due to being factory sealed on both sides.

I can understand why most of you still have your figures on display, and that you can transform them, but at this point in my life, I prefer to rescue and re imbue my childhood. Pieces like this are non replaceable, and I would like to think that I am helping future generations of transformers fans to understand where it all came from. So in another 60 years time, we can say this is where it all started, and not have it lost in history. Where the grand children's children think transformers came from bay formers, or that G1 figures were Masterpieces.

G1 holds a place in the hearts of those who lived it, and I can Imagine that if given the opportunity each and every one of you would rise to the challenge and help protect the roots.

That is awesome. Congrats. I had Snapdragon when I was growing up and I loved that guy. Sadly he was given to my little brothers when I went to college, and he is now lost forever.

If I were to come across a loose, complete one, I would get him. If I found what you got, I wouldn't have the self-control to keep him in the box. Good work!