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A curious find...

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:17 pm
by Diem
So in a quaint vintage shop I found an intriguing curio, something that appeared to be, based on the boxart, either a pre-transformer or a knock-off of G1 Whirl.

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Obviously when the box was passed down from elderly Asian tchotchke shop owner to slightly less elderly Asian tchotchke shop owner it got a little hammered. Opening the box led to surprises both good and bad.

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The set came with instructions, stickers and three of the four weapons which was more than I was expecting for the price paid for it. Admittedly one of the weapons was pretty heavily yellowed...

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Ah. That wasn't the only thing that was yellowed. Half of the helicopter was yellowed too.

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Oh and it came with a little pilot. That was weird too.

So the plastic seems to be the same quality as any Hasbro figure of the time, and the diecast is there. All the joints are reasonable too for a product of this age. So what is it that I am looking at here? Does anyone know how to fix this level of yellowing? And what is this thing worth?

Thanks!

Re: A curious find...

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:21 pm
by metaphorge
"Both Whirl and Roadbuster, the Deluxe Autobots, were licensed from Takatoku by Hasbro for inclusion in the 1985 line, and hence were not included in the Japanese line, the cartoon, or the US Marvel comics. Whirl was originally the "Oberon Gazette" from the Armored Trooper Dorvack toyline, although the toy's dark and light blues were inverted for the Transformers release."

The question is whether this is an original Armored Trooper Dorvack figure or a KO.

Re: A curious find...

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:24 pm
by Diem
metaphorge wrote:"Both Whirl and Roadbuster, the Deluxe Autobots, were licensed from Takatoku by Hasbro for inclusion in the 1985 line, and hence were not included in the Japanese line, the cartoon, or the US Marvel comics. Whirl was originally the "Oberon Gazette" from the Armored Trooper Dorvack toyline, although the toy's dark and light blues were inverted for the Transformers release."

This one isn't the same thing...it's made by Kingdam rather than Takutoku. I'm just wondering if this is a licensed product like Whirl, or a cheap rip-off.

Re: A curious find...

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:18 pm
by craggy
an interesting find. be positive, he's not yellowed, he's battle-damaged!

Re: A curious find...

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:50 pm
by Diem
By the way if anyone wants to make me an offer, please hit me up by PM.

Re: A curious find...

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:00 pm
by Skyfire77
From what I can see, Kingdam did KOs from both Dorvack and Diaclone (Browning and the Seeker mold). Still, that's nice find.

Re: A curious find...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:27 am
by Mykltron
Pics of robot mode please?

Re: A curious find...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:47 am
by fenrir72
Looks like a Taiwan K.O.

Re: A curious find...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:11 am
by Jelze Bunnycat
I gotta say I'm intrigued, even with the yellowing. I agree it could be a KO, let me looking into Kingdam a little first.

Re: A curious find...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:33 am
by Diem
Mykltron wrote:Pics of robot mode please?

I'll put some up when I get home tonight.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I gotta say I'm intrigued, even with the yellowing. I agree it could be a KO, let me looking into Kingdam a little first.


Thanks! I'm just wondering if I found a hidden treasure or a rightfully-hidden crapbot.

Re: A curious find...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:58 am
by Jelze Bunnycat
Sorry, it is indeed a KO. I tried googling "Kingdam" but it seems to be a common name in KO-land. Heck, a Dia-Battles KO is called King Dam :lol:
There is a legit company called "KingDam" in Taiwan, but it has nothing to do with robot toys.

Re: A curious find...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:02 pm
by Diem
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sorry, it is indeed a KO. I tried googling "Kingdam" but it seems to be a common name in KO-land. Heck, a Dia-Battles KO is called King Dam :lol:
There is a legit company called "KingDam" in Taiwan, but it has nothing to do with robot toys.

I suspected it might be...but since I got him for the price of a Big Mac I thought it would be worth it.

Re: A curious find...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:45 pm
by Skyfire77
Diem wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sorry, it is indeed a KO. I tried googling "Kingdam" but it seems to be a common name in KO-land. Heck, a Dia-Battles KO is called King Dam :lol:
There is a legit company called "KingDam" in Taiwan, but it has nothing to do with robot toys.

I suspected it might be...but since I got him for the price of a Big Mac I thought it would be worth it.


KO or not, they seem to go for serious dollars, on eBay at least. There's one like yours, in slightly better condition, up on eBay now for $179, and several Brownings have gone for $120-150.

Re: A curious find...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:46 pm
by Diem
Skyfire77 wrote:
Diem wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sorry, it is indeed a KO. I tried googling "Kingdam" but it seems to be a common name in KO-land. Heck, a Dia-Battles KO is called King Dam :lol:
There is a legit company called "KingDam" in Taiwan, but it has nothing to do with robot toys.

I suspected it might be...but since I got him for the price of a Big Mac I thought it would be worth it.


KO or not, they seem to go for serious dollars, on eBay at least. There's one like yours, in slightly better condition, up on eBay now for $179, and several Brownings have gone for $120-150.

Ah...I wouldn't expect a yellowed one like this to go for nearly that much. But I wouldn't mind making a bit of profit of of it. ;)

Re: A curious find...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:31 am
by Tyrannotaur
Kinda looks like it has a Zoid pilot figure, or at least something similar.
http://dimensionalarea.net/portal/zoids ... arison.jpg

Re: A curious find...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:56 am
by Diem
Tyrannotaur wrote:Kinda looks like it has a Zoid pilot figure, or at least something similar.
http://dimensionalarea.net/portal/zoids ... arison.jpg
Yeah, it reminded me of a zoid pilot, though a lot bigger. It appears to be something unique to this production rather than something that came with Whirl or the figure Whirl was based on.

Re: A curious find...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:04 am
by Delicon
It might even have value for a customizer...definitely worth more than what you paid.

Re: A curious find...

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:39 am
by Diem
Mykltron wrote:Pics of robot mode please?


Behold my terrible photography!

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Re: A curious find...

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:55 am
by Mykltron
I dreamt about playing with this figure last night.

He was better in my dream.

Re: A curious find...

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:02 am
by Diem
Mykltron wrote:I dreamt about playing with this figure last night.

He was better in my dream.


You're welcome!

Re: A curious find...

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:55 am
by Mykltron
Haha, I mean: thanks for the photo! It's a cool find, and I would have snapped it up myself.