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Posted: **Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:17 pm**

Megatron Wolf wrote:so why are these $15 when theyre not bigger or more complicated or have more detail than TFPrime figures? How does hasbro justify the price increase for these guys? Im sorry but im not paying $17(including tax) for a deluxe no matter what its from or who it is. Is this what we get for being loyal to hasbro all these years, smaller figures and outrageous prices? Its one thing to make figures smaller but keep the damn price & quality the same. Alot of people arent willing to pay or cant pay $13 for a prime deluxe what makes them think they'll pay $15 for a generations when theres nothing special about them. The last wave of generations werent even $15 they were $13 and they were bigger & of better quality than DOTM, TFPRIME, this wave of generations and they came out when the economy was **** just like it is now. Sorry about the rant but what hasbros doing is uncalled for and just not fair to consumers especially those who are falling on hard times.

Lol i would pay that much for a character i love from a game thats great.
Wanna hear something worse? the target closest to my house has dotm deluxe jolt for 30$. And mudflap for 16.99. But the tf prime toys are priced right ironically

Posted: **Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:03 pm**

So glad these are starting to show up!

Posted: **Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:30 pm**

I remember not too long ago Target (temporarily) bumped prices for DotM Deluxes to $30! Then put them "on sale" for ~$16 IIRC. A mere $2 increase doesn't look so bad compared to that. :lol:

Anyways, can't wait to find these guys.

Posted: **Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:59 pm**

Decided to get OP SW and Jazz from BBTS...Im sick and tired of shoddy distribution and retailers that act stupid when you ask them if they have a product in stock..

Posted: **Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:05 pm**

LiKwid wrote:Decided to get OP SW and Jazz from BBTS...Im sick and tired of shoddy distribution and retailers that act stupid when you ask them if they have a product in stock..

I have been feeling the same way a bit myself. I bundled FOC Optimus, and Jazz with my Breakdown from BBTS. I didn't add Shockwave just because I am going to try to find him at retail. I figure it will work out, but at least it's just one figure to look for instead of 3.

I also saved myself the pain of finding all 5 figures for FOC Bruticus and just preordered mine, as well as the Amazon set too.

At a certain point the time and gas saved not hunting all over the place makes up for the price difference in most cases.

Posted: **Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:19 pm**

Cyberseven wrote:
LiKwid wrote:Decided to get OP SW and Jazz from BBTS...Im sick and tired of shoddy distribution and retailers that act stupid when you ask them if they have a product in stock..

I have been feeling the same way a bit myself. I bundled FOC Optimus, and Jazz with my Breakdown from BBTS. I didn't add Shockwave just because I am going to try to find him at retail. I figure it will work out, but at least it's just one figure to look for instead of 3.

I also saved myself the pain of finding all 5 figures for FOC Bruticus and just preordered mine, as well as the Amazon set too.

At a certain point the time and gas saved not hunting all over the place makes up for the price difference in most cases.

I'm seriously considering doing the same. I'm sick of seeing yellow everywhere store i go into.

Posted: **Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:32 pm**

Doubledealer93 wrote:
Cyberseven wrote:
LiKwid wrote:Decided to get OP SW and Jazz from BBTS...Im sick and tired of shoddy distribution and retailers that act stupid when you ask them if they have a product in stock..

I have been feeling the same way a bit myself. I bundled FOC Optimus, and Jazz with my Breakdown from BBTS. I didn't add Shockwave just because I am going to try to find him at retail. I figure it will work out, but at least it's just one figure to look for instead of 3.

I also saved myself the pain of finding all 5 figures for FOC Bruticus and just preordered mine, as well as the Amazon set too.

At a certain point the time and gas saved not hunting all over the place makes up for the price difference in most cases.

I'm seriously considering doing the same. I'm sick of seeing yellow everywhere store i go into.

I am thinking the same thing. So, for FOC OP, Jazz and Soundwave on BBTS is $47.99 + $8.29 shipping (at least to GA). That comes to a total of $56.28.

If I buy these at Target, Wally World or TRU they will cost $14.99 each plus 7% tax. This total comes to $48.12. This is only a difference of $8.16 which is only $2.72 per figure.

I've already been to 2 Targets, Wal-Mart and TRU. So, this may be worth it to save the time and gas, especially since I have seen no sign of them even making room for the Generations line.

However, part of me does enjoy the hunt, but...

Posted: **Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:42 pm**

Just picked them up! The two targets in my area that it listed online as having them did! The first target only had Op and Jazz and the 2nd I just asked for two Shockwaves if they had them and the guy brought them out! Yay! I'm sure they probably had more Op and Jazz at the last Target I was at, didn't ask, one the guys said they aren't supposed to be out on the shelf for 2 more weeks, hence the clearance, glad I won't have too look for these guys now, Shockwave is awesome but smaller and they were 14.99 at my Targets too, but to me they were worth it, especially having a classics Shockwave!!! :KREMZEEK:

Posted: **Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:57 pm**

Starwave Prime wrote:Just picked them up! The two targets in my area that it listed online as having them did! The first target only had Op and Jazz and the 2nd I just asked for two Shockwaves if they had them and the guy brought them out! Yay! I'm sure they probably had more Op and Jazz at the last Target I was at, didn't ask, one the guys said they aren't supposed to be out on the shelf for 2 more weeks, hence the clearance, glad I won't have too look for these guys now, Shockwave is awesome but smaller and they were 14.99 at my Targets too, but to me they were worth it, especially having a classics Shockwave!!!

man you are really making me grind my teeth. i need 2 shockwaves dammit! can you take some size comparison pics for me by any chance with some classics toys?

Posted: **Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:13 pm**

man you are really making me grind my teeth. i need 2 shockwaves dammit! can you take some size comparison pics for me by any chance with some classics toys?

Sure! I'm only opening one Shockwave and Jazz for now though due to space issues, and my camera is not the greatest, but i could take a few quick shots, anyone in particular?

Posted: **Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:23 pm**

Starwave Prime wrote: Sure! I'm only opening one Shockwave and Jazz for now though due to space issues, and my camera is not the greatest, but i could take a few quick shots, anyone in particular?

*ahem*

Doubledealer93 wrote:yeah it still sucks. but oh well they are good toys. can anyone find me a size comparison pic with FOC prime with a classics toy like kup or hotrod?

Posted: **Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:35 pm**

Starwave Prime wrote:
man you are really making me grind my teeth. i need 2 shockwaves dammit! can you take some size comparison pics for me by any chance with some classics toys?

Sure! I'm only opening one Shockwave and Jazz for now though due to space issues, and my camera is not the greatest, but i could take a few quick shots, anyone in particular?

shockwave with classics hotrod or kup if you have them. also with classics megstron if you have him or any other classics decepticons. and thanks!

Posted: **Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:05 pm**

Here ys go! Hope you find some soon!

Posted: **Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:08 pm**

Brutal, Shockwave should tower over the rest of the Cons. Oh well, better than nothing I suppose.

Posted: **Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:11 pm**

El Duque wrote:Brutal, Shockwave should tower over the rest of the Cons. Oh well, better than nothing I suppose.

lol wut? He's a head shorter than Megatron in the G1 cartoon...

Posted: **Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:29 pm**

My two cents now that I've had some time with them, Shockwave is more solid feeling than I imagined him being, much better than PRID Soundwave(who I returned),size was what was expected from pics but good mold detail and a few nice paint aps, Jazz looks nice scale-wise next to WFC Op, decent figure but a little loose feeling and limited leg movement, nice head sculpt.

Posted: **Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:53 pm**

orangeitis wrote:
El Duque wrote:Brutal, Shockwave should tower over the rest of the Cons. Oh well, better than nothing I suppose.
lol wut? He's a head shorter than Megatron in the G1 cartoon...

I'm aware of that, here's a G1 scale chart that illustrates it:

My sense of how these neo-classics figures should scale comes directly from their G1 toys:

Flawed logic perhaps, but I have a feeling I'm not the only one who feels this way. Besides can we really trust the cartoon................

Posted: **Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:03 pm**

El Duque wrote:Besides can we really trust the cartoon................

Cartoon, no. Official scale charts, yes.

Though I see where you're coming from now. =D

Posted: **Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:38 am**

Well, this morning the Target website says they are available at the Target near me. I am off to check, and will post if I get lucky and I find them.

Posted: **Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:16 am**

Cyberseven wrote:Well, this morning the Target website says they are available at the Target near me. I am off to check, and will post if I get lucky and I find them.

Well they had Ops and Jazz, but of course Shockwave was gone...lol.

Posted: **Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:15 pm**

I just went to a local Target because it showed the listing in the online tool provided in this post. However, the ones they found (after asking them to go to the back to get it) were old Generation toys (like Wheeljack). So beware, don't travel too far for these yet, the listing may be for old Generations stock they have left over and not the newer ones.

Hopefully none of you guys will get the same disappointment as me :sad:

Posted: **Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:26 am**

picked up my FOC optimus prime yest!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41574394@N02/7543459746/

he is a lot smaller, and "flimsier" than i expected. Like his joints seem weak to me, makes me cautious when transforming. I hope they release bigger stronger versions soon

Posted: **Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:11 pm**

found Prime and Jazz at a local RI TRU
15 bucks a pop but...

i had saved a 10 giftcard and a 10 coupon
so i paid 12.08 after tax for the pair
way more comfortable at that price than than 32 it started off as

i am sure Shockers will cost me dear in gas though, once he pops up on my radar

Posted: **Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:30 pm**

atomicgoofball wrote:he is a lot smaller, and "flimsier" than i expected. Like his joints seem weak to me, makes me cautious when transforming. I hope they release bigger stronger versions soon

A voyager toy might be a possibility.

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:01 pm**

Dude, the Targets around me have had them listed in stock for like 3 days, and they are still not on the shelves, WTF!???

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