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I've had my FOC combaticons for 2 days now, and amidst all the (understandable) hate towards the figures proportions due to Onslaught not being a Voyager, I haven't seen anyone point the finger at Swindle.
He comes in a deluxe class box, with a deluxe price tag, yet he is easily bigger than the other 4. WHY???

People keep saying Onslaught should be a voyager to fix the combiners' issuses, then other people say 'can't be done due to case assortments/ shelf requirements' and all that jazz. OK, I buy that.

But how does Swindle end up being this bloody big whilst Onslaught is puny as hell?

This thing is a design flaw from the start. They are 5 deluxes, but not all the same size. Doesn't take a genius to figure out which should be the bigger of the 5.

Its just how he ended up. They tried to make him as accurate as they could, insert the scramble gimmick, and make him limb worthy. Put all that together, and the proportions they were going for for the combined mode, along with the dumb gimmick, makes disproportionate decepticons.

I'd imagine Onslaught was made a Deluxe because that's more show-accurate. Onslaught doesn't tower over the others in the game, so a Voyager among Deluxes really wouldn't work.

As for Swindle's size, that's just one of those odd toy quirks. All Deluxes use roughly the same amount of actual material, meaning "heavy" types tend to be much shorter than "lightweights" (HftD Hailstorm and RotF Lockdown are the extremes of this phenomenon). Swindle is less bulky than his comrades, ergo he has more mass to put into height. It doesn't help that his relatively empty chest armor also gives the illusion of mass.



I do like how the Wrecker retool takes advantage of the Swindle mold's size and uses it for Roadbuster.

I think he is fat not big exactly .

千代爸爸 wrote:I think he is fat not big exactly .

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He isn't taller, but overall he's 'beefier'. My point is if Onslaught had those proportions, the combined mode wouldn't look so 'stringy'.

BTW, thanks for that pic, I was nearly there with that mis-transform of Blast-off. You've made mine look better now

Scale has always been a sometimes thing for Hastak, this is one more baffling example.

One size fitting all on this combiner makes their life easier, not ours.

He's just too hollow

千代爸爸 wrote:I think he is fat not big exactly .

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Quite possibly the best photo I've seen of Bruticus combined, maybe it's this paint scheme. Maybe I'll pick up the retail release after all.

Edit: well it's a good picture even if I can't quote it.

DevastaTTor wrote:

千代爸爸 wrote:I think he is fat not big exactly .

321321321.jpg

Quite possibly the best photo I've seen of Bruticus combined, maybe it's this paint scheme. Maybe I'll pick up the retail release after all.

Edit: well it's a good picture even if I can't quote it.

Hmph. I'm being forced to pick up the retail release. Budget.

PrymeStriker wrote:

DevastaTTor wrote:

千代爸爸 wrote:I think he is fat not big exactly .

321321321.jpg

Quite possibly the best photo I've seen of Bruticus combined, maybe it's this paint scheme. Maybe I'll pick up the retail release after all.

Edit: well it's a good picture even if I can't quote it.

Hmph. I'm being forced to pick up the retail release. Budget.

If budget's a consideration, are you also considering the G2 release? It's actually cheaper than the retail release. (Unless you're not in the US)

DevastaTTor wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

DevastaTTor wrote:

千代爸爸 wrote:I think he is fat not big exactly .

321321321.jpg

Quite possibly the best photo I've seen of Bruticus combined, maybe it's this paint scheme. Maybe I'll pick up the retail release after all.

Edit: well it's a good picture even if I can't quote it.

Hmph. I'm being forced to pick up the retail release. Budget.

If budget's a consideration, are you also considering the G2 release? It's actually cheaper than the retail release. (Unless you're not in the US)

And go for an even uglier colors? I'm fine with the retail release. I actually like that better than the G2.

PrymeStriker wrote:

DevastaTTor wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

DevastaTTor wrote:

千代爸爸 wrote:I think he is fat not big exactly .

321321321.jpg

Quite possibly the best photo I've seen of Bruticus combined, maybe it's this paint scheme. Maybe I'll pick up the retail release after all.

Edit: well it's a good picture even if I can't quote it.

Hmph. I'm being forced to pick up the retail release. Budget.

If budget's a consideration, are you also considering the G2 release? It's actually cheaper than the retail release. (Unless you're not in the US)

And go for an even uglier colors? I'm fine with the retail release. I actually like that better than the G2.

Fair enough; go for the retail colors.

DevastaTTor wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

DevastaTTor wrote:

千代爸爸 wrote:I think he is fat not big exactly .

321321321.jpg

Quite possibly the best photo I've seen of Bruticus combined, maybe it's this paint scheme. Maybe I'll pick up the retail release after all.

Edit: well it's a good picture even if I can't quote it.

Hmph. I'm being forced to pick up the retail release. Budget.

If budget's a consideration, are you also considering the G2 release? It's actually cheaper than the retail release. (Unless you're not in the US)

Remember the original source of the G2 image? It was from a Chinese hasbro product catalog of sorts... I'm sure they will be released here too. Also, collector shops are taking orders on the "Amazon" G2 bruticus for around $88 USD, which in still cheaper than the $116 I would spent if I were to buy the regular ones off retail.

I'm waiting for Takara's take on this... Please be game accurate colours.

hinomars19 wrote:He isn't taller, but overall he's 'beefier'. My point is if Onslaught had those proportions, the combined mode wouldn't look so 'stringy'.
BTW, thanks for that pic, I was nearly there with that mis-transform of Blast-off. You've made mine look better now

how about this time ?

千代爸爸 wrote:
how about this time ?

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Did you just rotate the thighs? Interesting, but I think it makes him look even more lanky and awkward.

Found this on TFW. Might want to try it out.

So is it true that his legs don't move at the hip at all?

BeastProwl wrote:Found this on TFW. Might want to try it out.

So is it true that his legs don't move at the hip at all?

It was my understanding that he had ratchety hip joints...?

RAcast wrote:It was my understanding that he had ratchety hip joints...?

Maybe he does in that mode? IDK.
Edit* He has hip movement in that mode

I seriously want to know how to get the Combaticons in that configuration.