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For those who missed out the first time, we got news via site sponsor BigBadToyStore that MP-12 Sideswipe will get a second production run from Takara. With the recent news of the KO hitting the market place, this will give fans a chance to get this figure for the original online price.

We have just received preliminary information that the MP-12 will be reissued in December or January! Preorders have been opened for the 2nd production run of the MP-12 at $79.99

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

Thanks!
Joel
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com

Three days too late takara

Off to try to cancel my order at TFsource...

That's a very tempting price, considering the exorbitant price this guy seems to have jumped to in such a short time. Even if I'm on the fence, this MP's value is going to skyrocket... I don't really collect MP's, so I'm not sure I'm getting him. Especially with MP Soundwave on the horizon, Metroplex, and Predaking!

How do you guys afford these MPs?!?!?

I put my pre-order in. Was hoping to hear news of the MP cars coming to the states, but nothing came of it, so getting it "in" while I can. Now, if news comes that they ARE coming to the states...

A simple case of cover my bum.

credit card man

the robot mode packagind price is crazy though...

I am teribly tempted by mp soundwave but I need to keep my credit card space to afford metroplex

I hope the same happens for Tigertrack. I totally screwed up my chance!

I will get these little guys only if there is a US version at $50.
Otherwise I will stick to my binaltech, which are a far more quality figures.

optimuscarlos wrote:I will get these little guys only if there is a US version at $50.
Otherwise I will stick to my binaltech, which are a far more quality figures.

Binaltechs are awesome, I own all of them, but they don't compare to the MP sideswipe mold. Just because binaltechs use die cast doesn't mean they're better quality.

Binaltechs are accurate cars that try to transform into robots, the engineering on some of those molds leaves a lot to be desired.. Whereas sideswipe is perfect in both modes. And there's no comparison between mp sideswipe and binaltech sideswipe. For your sake, I hope there is a hasbro release.

Don't know much about Binaltech, I stuck with Alternators back then

recently, I bought optimus prime alternity with the Misaki girl included

like the car design, but the robot mode is pretty mehhh


as for masterpieces, when the quality is good, they're an excellent investment.
When they're crap, its basically money thrown in the garbage can. (MP-05 Megatron, I'm looking at you!)

But the sideswipe figure is an absolute must-have
Same goes for Red-alert. although mine has a weird feature: his right kneepad is painted purple, but the left kneepad isn't. but on the box, BOTH kneepads are painted purple...

funny isn,t it?

lol. How do we know these are not the KOs?

Sorry, double post.

Who said it was KO?

1st.: the site the guy was pointing to is Taobao. An auction site. People can list prices their way down the market price to scam people just like they do on ebay.

2nd. : I checked out the other sites he pointed to. Many of those are pre-orders. the 100 yuan to 200 yuan down are pre order payment. None refundable if you cancelled. They will charge you the remaining balance once the item comes in.

I want one now!

Hey, what about Red Alert? (it's a conspiracy!)

TimothyR wrote:

optimuscarlos wrote:I will get these little guys only if there is a US version at $50.
Otherwise I will stick to my binaltech, which are a far more quality figures.

Binaltechs are awesome, I own all of them, but they don't compare to the MP sideswipe mold. Just because binaltechs use die cast doesn't mean they're better quality.

Binaltechs are accurate cars that try to transform into robots, the engineering on some of those molds leaves a lot to be desired.. Whereas sideswipe is perfect in both modes. And there's no comparison between mp sideswipe and binaltech sideswipe. For your sake, I hope there is a hasbro release.

For me, the toy is actually just a deluxe size figure with not a very complex or original transformation. The only must have feature is his G1 look, that makes him worthy in the scale at you are a G1 Fan, but not really worthy if you look for: size, plastic quality, original engineering, paint application and transformation complexity, what is that I look for a $80-$100 toy.

Don't get me wrong, I like the figure. I had hold the toy at my hand and I think is awesome for being accurate to his cartoon counterpart but for me that worths only $40-$50.

Just my opinion.

optimuscarlos wrote:

TimothyR wrote:

optimuscarlos wrote:I will get these little guys only if there is a US version at $50.
Otherwise I will stick to my binaltech, which are a far more quality figures.

Binaltechs are awesome, I own all of them, but they don't compare to the MP sideswipe mold. Just because binaltechs use die cast doesn't mean they're better quality.

Binaltechs are accurate cars that try to transform into robots, the engineering on some of those molds leaves a lot to be desired.. Whereas sideswipe is perfect in both modes. And there's no comparison between mp sideswipe and binaltech sideswipe. For your sake, I hope there is a hasbro release.

For me, the toy is actually just a deluxe size figure with not a very complex or original transformation. The only must have feature is his G1 look, that makes him worthy in the scale at you are a G1 Fan, but not really worthy if you look for: size, plastic quality, original engineering, paint application and transformation complexity, what is that I look for a $80-$100 toy.

Don't get me wrong, I like the figure. I had hold the toy at my hand and I think is awesome for being accurate to his cartoon counterpart but for me that worths only $40-$50.

Just my opinion.

So...

-MP Sideswipe is definitely larger than a deluxe. He's closer to voyager sized.
-Though the transformation is not overly complex, it is far from simple, and the consensus is it is a very satisfying one.
-The engineering is indisputably original. I (amicably) challenge you to find anything else quite like it.

If price is the deal-breaker for you, that's fine... but don't knock the toy based on misrepresentations of its other dimensions.

megatronus wrote:

optimuscarlos wrote:

TimothyR wrote:

optimuscarlos wrote:I will get these little guys only if there is a US version at $50.
Otherwise I will stick to my binaltech, which are a far more quality figures.

Binaltechs are awesome, I own all of them, but they don't compare to the MP sideswipe mold. Just because binaltechs use die cast doesn't mean they're better quality.

Binaltechs are accurate cars that try to transform into robots, the engineering on some of those molds leaves a lot to be desired.. Whereas sideswipe is perfect in both modes. And there's no comparison between mp sideswipe and binaltech sideswipe. For your sake, I hope there is a hasbro release.

For me, the toy is actually just a deluxe size figure with not a very complex or original transformation. The only must have feature is his G1 look, that makes him worthy in the scale at you are a G1 Fan, but not really worthy if you look for: size, plastic quality, original engineering, paint application and transformation complexity, what is that I look for a $80-$100 toy.

Don't get me wrong, I like the figure. I had hold the toy at my hand and I think is awesome for being accurate to his cartoon counterpart but for me that worths only $40-$50.

Just my opinion.

So...

-MP Sideswipe is definitely larger than a deluxe. He's closer to voyager sized.
-Though the transformation is not overly complex, it is far from simple, and the consensus is it is a very satisfying one.
-The engineering is indisputably original. I (amicably) challenge you to find anything else quite like it.

If price is the deal-breaker for you, that's fine... but don't knock the toy based on misrepresentations of its other dimensions.

I am not knocking anything. As I said, I like the toy, but I can't see where the $80-$100 are invested on him, compare to other lines. I can see more engineering and originality on a movieverse deluxe, and it's $15.
All I'm saying is... the toy is fine but the price is overated.

Anyway, is my opinion, Im'not buying the toy, but I'm not trying to convince anyone from doing it.

Just speaking my mind, here.

optimuscarlos wrote:

megatronus wrote:

optimuscarlos wrote:

TimothyR wrote:

optimuscarlos wrote:I will get these little guys only if there is a US version at $50.
Otherwise I will stick to my binaltech, which are a far more quality figures.

Binaltechs are awesome, I own all of them, but they don't compare to the MP sideswipe mold. Just because binaltechs use die cast doesn't mean they're better quality.

Binaltechs are accurate cars that try to transform into robots, the engineering on some of those molds leaves a lot to be desired.. Whereas sideswipe is perfect in both modes. And there's no comparison between mp sideswipe and binaltech sideswipe. For your sake, I hope there is a hasbro release.

For me, the toy is actually just a deluxe size figure with not a very complex or original transformation. The only must have feature is his G1 look, that makes him worthy in the scale at you are a G1 Fan, but not really worthy if you look for: size, plastic quality, original engineering, paint application and transformation complexity, what is that I look for a $80-$100 toy.

Don't get me wrong, I like the figure. I had hold the toy at my hand and I think is awesome for being accurate to his cartoon counterpart but for me that worths only $40-$50.

Just my opinion.

So...

-MP Sideswipe is definitely larger than a deluxe. He's closer to voyager sized.
-Though the transformation is not overly complex, it is far from simple, and the consensus is it is a very satisfying one.
-The engineering is indisputably original. I (amicably) challenge you to find anything else quite like it.

If price is the deal-breaker for you, that's fine... but don't knock the toy based on misrepresentations of its other dimensions.

I am not knocking anything. As I said, I like the toy, but I can't see where the $80-$100 are invested on him, compare to other lines. I can see more engineering and originality on a movieverse deluxe, and it's $15.
All I'm saying is... the toy is fine but the price is overated.

Anyway, is my opinion, Im'not buying the toy, but I'm not trying to convince anyone from doing it.

Just speaking my mind, here.

I do agree that the MP Sideswipe's inflated price can be hard to swallow. The one thing to take into consideration is the mark up price you are paying because these are imported. MP Sideswipe & Alert sold for $60 in Japan, which is a decent price when you consider that scout sized 3rd figures are priced almost the same.