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mp-09: to be or not to be

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Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:27 pm
by VioMeTriX
mp-09 has terrible arm articulation, horrendous car mode, and a stupid looking winebago mode. how can we consider him a masterpiece when the shoulders will not allow you to do some of the most basic of poses?: its also obvious he is somewhat out of scale. does anyone else feel the same? we need a new smaller hotrod. i have taken mine off my masterpiece shelf because to me he is so lacking in many areas.
Re: mp-09: to be or not to be

Posted:
Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:32 pm
by Dead Metal
People give MP Megatron a hard time, but somehow you don't see much hate for this one here.
Except for me, I have the Hasbro version and the damn thing is totally broken, damn shoulders broke, the paint is allergic to plastic and he looks awkward in almost every pose. MY MP Megatron is still super fine, but I've had that for much longer and have transformed and messed about with it much more than with MP Hot Rod.
the only good thing about this guy are the accessories, although my Targetmaster is faulty. But the Matrix is shiny so yay?
We definitely need a new MP Hot Rod/ Rodimus.
Re: mp-09: to be or not to be

Posted:
Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:43 pm
by VioMeTriX
no kidding we had 5 - 6 versions of mp-01, now mp-10.... isnt it time we get a decepticon leader... megatron or galvatron, doesnt matter... as long as i have a figure that can pose and belt out some orders. personally id like a proper megs, but wouldnt turn down a galvatron...
Re: mp-09: to be or not to be

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Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:54 pm
by njb902
VioMeTriX wrote:no kidding we had 5 - 6 versions of mp-01, now mp-10.... isnt it time we get a decepticon leader... megatron or galvatron, doesnt matter... as long as i have a figure that can pose and belt out some orders. personally id like a proper megs, but wouldnt turn down a galvatron...
I'd prefer a tank over gun megs, I just think the finished product would be better.
Re: mp-09: to be or not to be

Posted:
Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:47 pm
by fenrir72
This is the only MP mold I don't own. Have one of each except Sideswipe, but is he really that bad? Aiming for the Tomy version but its quite haed to find one.
Re: mp-09: to be or not to be

Posted:
Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:59 pm
by VioMeTriX
fenrir72 wrote:This is the only MP mold I don't own. Have one of each except Sideswipe, but is he really that bad? Aiming for the Tomy version but its quite haed to find one.
unless you are a completionist, beware this pile of junk of a figure, his arm motion is the worst and hes just a shotty transformer... buyer beware
Re: mp-09: to be or not to be

Posted:
Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:35 pm
by Convotron
While I own a Hasbro MP Hot Rod(imus) and don't dislike it, I clearly see issues with the toy's design.
As a figure that was made to fulfill the roles of Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime, it was destined to be inherently flawed and compromised. I appreciate TakaraTomy's intent of, I suppose, provide one stop shopping for TF collectors, however, I definitely would prefer two separately designed toys.
A MP Hot Rod, in scale with the current standard for MP figures, with a design and specifically engineered to function as Hot Rod is what I would like.
I'm not that big a fan of the Rodimus Prime design but even so, I would welcome a MP Rodimus, done right, appropriately scaled and designed just to function as Rodimus Prime.
I applaud the effort made in bringing a design like MP-09 to market but aside from getting an A for effort, the execution was not up to what I expect from a premium, high end toy line like Masterpiece.
Re: mp-09: to be or not to be

Posted:
Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:53 pm
by VioMeTriX
Convotron wrote:While I own a Hasbro MP Hot Rod(imus) and don't dislike it, I clearly see issues with the toy's design.
As a figure that was made to fulfill the roles of Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime, it was destined to be inherently flawed and compromised. I appreciate TakaraTomy's intent of, I suppose, provide one stop shopping for TF collectors, however, I definitely would prefer two separately designed toys.
A MP Hot Rod, in scale with the current standard for MP figures, with a design and specifically engineered to function as Hot Rod is what I would like.
I'm not that big a fan of the Rodimus Prime design but even so, I would welcome a MP Rodimus, done right, appropriately scaled and designed just to function as Rodimus Prime.
I applaud the effort made in bringing a design like MP-09 to market but aside from getting an A for effort, the execution was not up to what I expect from a premium, high end toy line like Masterpiece.
yeah what he says
Re: mp-09: to be or not to be

Posted:
Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:26 pm
by FortMacs
I guess im one of the lucky few. I have the Hasbro version and I have never had a problem with mp 9.
im just not a fan of the figure, or character for that matter.
would really have preferred a mold for each character, instead of the two for one that we got.
Re: mp-09: to be or not to be

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Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:05 am
by Mkall
Sold mine for $60 a while back. Glad to be rid of him and the couple other MPs I had.
Re: mp-09: to be or not to be

Posted:
Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:47 am
by gavinfuzzy
It has a hidden gimmick.
Stare at the arm funny and it'll break off.
Apparently I'm not the only one with this issue in here...
Was just sitting here on the computer, when *twack* something dropped on the floor. It was his arm.

Wonder why I ever bought it.

Re: mp-09: to be or not to be

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Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:15 am
by Mykltron
VioMeTriX wrote:mp-09 has terrible arm articulation
True, but with a dremel one can fix those shoulders and make them much better.

VioMeTriX wrote:horrendous car mode
I love his car mode.
VioMeTriX wrote:and a stupid looking winebago mode
I also like this, mainly because it's so damned big, but it's also accurate.
VioMeTriX wrote:its also obvious he is somewhat out of scale.
He's in scale with the original MP figures. Which puts my Alternators Hot Rod in an awkward situation...
Re: mp-09: to be or not to be

Posted:
Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:25 am
by paul053
There are reasons I decide not to get in to MP line and MP-09 is one of them I'm happy I'm not in this line.
Mykltron wrote:True, but with a dremel one can fix those shoulders and make them much better.
This may bring up a terrible long debate. Probably easy for people like us who have no fear of modding a toy to say this. But a safety/quality tested and checked brand toy's perfection should not rely on consumers' modification. Unless they print this on their box "Toy may have problems, please fix yourself". Generations Blitzwing falls in to this category as well.
One more label they may need to print on the box. "Toy may miss paints. Please paint yourself". There are a lot of toys fall in to this category.
Re: mp-09: to be or not to be

Posted:
Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:43 pm
by Convotron
paul053 wrote:Mykltron wrote:True, but with a dremel one can fix those shoulders and make them much better.
This may bring up a terrible long debate. Probably easy for people like us who have no fear of modding a toy to say this. But a safety/quality tested and checked brand toy's perfection should not rely on consumers' modification. Unless they print this on their box "Toy may have problems, please fix yourself". Generations Blitzwing falls in to this category as well.
I agree with paul053 and I also appreciate Mykltron's offering of advice as to how one can improve the toy if they have the means.
I can understand lower price point toys in the main line having design issues from time to time but at the MP level where the intent is to offer a high end product, engineering and design issues such as the poor articulation of the shoulders of MP-09 are not reasonable.
On the positive side, I do think that MP-09, barring certain design/QC issues, is a great looking Rodimus Prime. It fits appropriately into the scale from that MP toy onwards.
If a version 2.0 of MP Hot Rod(designed to scale with the current MP scale standard and designed as strictly Hot Rod) were to ever be brought to market, I'd definitely put aside money to buy it.
Re: mp-09: to be or not to be

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Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:47 pm
by Stormrider
Convotron wrote:While I own a Hasbro MP Hot Rod(imus) and don't dislike it, I clearly see issues with the toy's design.
As a figure that was made to fulfill the roles of Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime, it was destined to be inherently flawed and compromised. I appreciate TakaraTomy's intent of, I suppose, provide one stop shopping for TF collectors, however, I definitely would prefer two separately designed toys.
A MP Hot Rod, in scale with the current standard for MP figures, with a design and specifically engineered to function as Hot Rod is what I would like.
I'm not that big a fan of the Rodimus Prime design but even so, I would welcome a MP Rodimus, done right, appropriately scaled and designed just to function as Rodimus Prime.
I applaud the effort made in bringing a design like MP-09 to market but aside from getting an A for effort, the execution was not up to what I expect from a premium, high end toy line like Masterpiece.
I agree. The concept was cool but the execution did not work out. I too would havce preferred just MP Rodimus Prime and forget the Hot Rod part. Like others, I also have problem posing him and he really doesn't like to hold his guns.
I'm on board with others that MP Megatron has been flayed way too much compared to MP Rodimus.