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Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:04 pm
by Tronus_Rex
Anyone who grew up in the 80's has to look back now and just pause, reflecting; "Wow, we had the most awesome play-sets in the 20th and 21st centuries." Metroplex for the Transformers :BOT: 30th Anniversary :CON: is important, not just to TF fans, and 80's fans, it is important to everyone who enjoys toys - in general.

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We hit a peak in 1985 with Hasbro's true titan: GI Joe USS Flagg at 7 1/2 feet.
There are adult toys too, [in more ways than one], but, bikes, and motorized vehicles don't count for what I am discussion; play-sets.

Metroplex '13 is the tallest Transformer so far at 24-25", but is outweighed by Fortress Maximus by 1.5-2 pounds, [roughly 4lbs vs roughly 6lbs]. Yet, these two titans have plenty of other play-sets before them that are just as big.

There was, recently, Hasbro's Millennium Falcon, which dwarfed Kenner's original. Other Kenner play-sets for Star Wars were very incredible. Playmates TMNT toys, like the Tecnodrome were large. Ljn made some terrible video-games, but there toys were awesome, including the Thundercat toys like the "Lair". Just how many He-Man play-sets, did Mattel make? Hasbro made even more GI Joe aRAH sets, if not more, when compared to Masters'.

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The strange thing about all of this is that USS Flagg originally sold for just $109 US! Fort.Max sold for just over $100, but that toys engineering and manufacturer cost were different (apples and oranges, ETC), Metroplex '13 is only $100 almost 26 years later.

I really believe that, just as American citizens, we will see another generation with colossal kids playsets, [as well as adult toys :grin: ].

The economy is not nearly as strong as where it has been, but I believe that cost of living will go down, and energy will become cheaper than it has ever been in human history. I think the economy in just the US is going to explode in growth at least one more time, even given current conditions. *Ref:NOTE Also human capability to manufacture - anything, is always improving.

Could we see Hasbro top the Flagg? Imagine a new Fort.Max or other baseformer as large as the classic Flagg. Conditions for the average US citizen may improve enough that it's more than feasible to happen.

Flagg is extreme given the simple issue of just where to place a toy big. But even other playsets mentioned aren't that unmanageable.

Forget collectors, as parents, just buying a Gen.'s Metroplex for a child is very special given our own love and nostalgia for such things. Many of the kids who grew up in the 80's have kids now, and will continue to have more, & want to share the things that were special to the parent as a child to their own child.

Funny thing about toy tech., imagine Transformer toys that transform themselves and double as actually robots, this is almost a certainty. How about a playset or transformer toy that doubles as a functioning vehicle for a child and even an adult? The future holds a lot for ourselves, and our children, and grandchildren, and beyond.


*Ref:NOTE [This is based on hard facts - not positive thinking. One example: storing the energy of a lightning bolt. Catching lightning is actually easy, there are real methods for doing this. But no battery can store it, yet. There's a very credible tech./science company that says they will be able to achieve this within 10 years. Firepointe is the company name. 1 bolt of lightning has enough energy to power the US for 2 weeks.]

Re: Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:09 pm
by Tronus_Rex

Re: Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:13 am
by ScottyP
Giant playsets are as fun as it gets! One of my pipe dreams is a Broadside toy that is as big as the Flagg.

Re: Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:26 am
by Jelze Bunnycat
ScottyP wrote:Giant playsets are as fun as it gets! One of my pipe dreams is a Broadside toy that is as big as the Flagg.


Omitting the Earth Jet mode, of course ;)

Re: Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:23 pm
by Tronus_Rex
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
ScottyP wrote:Giant playsets are as fun as it gets! One of my pipe dreams is a Broadside toy that is as big as the Flagg.


Omitting the Earth Jet mode, of course ;)


What???? BLASPHEMY!!!! I say add more size changes! 12 forms, Zwei-Sixshot!!!

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Re: Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:20 pm
by fenrir72
Back then, the playsets were made in the good old USA. Same with the vehicles unlike now where everything is made in China.

Gawd! The USS Flag! Amazing...............those were the toys :BOWDOWN:

Re: Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:12 am
by Hero Alpha
I loved that USS Flagg, I never had one myself but a friend next door did and it was awesome. He also had blue carpet which was a perfect ocean :michaelbay: ! The biggest transformer I had was :BOT: Omega Supreme :BOT: and he was super sweet, think I got him for christmas in '85.

Re: Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:05 pm
by ScottyP
Tronus_Rex wrote:
What???? BLASPHEMY!!!! I say add more size changes! 12 forms, Zwei-Sixshot!!!

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I love everything about this post.

Re: Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:58 pm
by Mindmaster
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
ScottyP wrote:Giant playsets are as fun as it gets! One of my pipe dreams is a Broadside toy that is as big as the Flagg.


Omitting the Earth Jet mode, of course ;)


I have a better idea. Instead of implementing him as a Triplechanger, why not instead make him a Duobot; when trasnforming him into his vehicle mode, he spits into a jet and the carrier.

Go on, tell me I'm a genius. :P

Re: Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:34 pm
by mooncake623
This is very positive thinking indeed! love to see it :D

Re: Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:40 am
by Hero Alpha
Mindmaster wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
ScottyP wrote:Giant playsets are as fun as it gets! One of my pipe dreams is a Broadside toy that is as big as the Flagg.


Omitting the Earth Jet mode, of course ;)


I have a better idea. Instead of implementing him as a Triplechanger, why not instead make him a Duobot; when trasnforming him into his vehicle mode, he spits into a jet and the carrier.

Go on, tell me I'm a genius. :P



Yea you are good lol. This would be a good idea, kinda like Sky Lynx maybe.

Re: Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:50 am
by Jelze Bunnycat
Hero Alpha wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
ScottyP wrote:Giant playsets are as fun as it gets! One of my pipe dreams is a Broadside toy that is as big as the Flagg.


Omitting the Earth Jet mode, of course ;)


I have a better idea. Instead of implementing him as a Triplechanger, why not instead make him a Duobot; when trasnforming him into his vehicle mode, he spits into a jet and the carrier.

Go on, tell me I'm a genius. :P



Yea you are good lol. This would be a good idea, kinda like Sky Lynx maybe.


The two components would still have to be out of scale for it to work :lol: I mean, look at these two figures from Machine Robo and Gobots:

Jettranser review on Counter-X
Chaos on TFU.info

Re: Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:24 pm
by Tronus_Rex
felzbug :BOT: on YouTube :CON: is dedicated to Transformer reviews, I wanted to mention him, & reference his 2 Metroplex '13 reviews. You might enjoy him & wish to follow. :KREMZEEK:



MegaMoonMan Metroplex Upgrades - Dec. 6th, 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50lospKHwIU

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HKACG Metroplex - Aug. 7th, 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcwBpC2FsVw

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Re: Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:35 pm
by Jelze Bunnycat
The board's YouTube tags only need the YouTube video ID, the part after "v=". Put simply:
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[youtube]50lospKHwIU[/youtube]

[youtube]kcwBpC2FsVw[/youtube]


...will net you this:




Re: Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:38 pm
by Tronus_Rex
Thank you JelZe GoldRabbit!

Re: Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:44 pm
by Rodimus Prime
All this talk of giant Transformers and aircraft carrier playsets has given me a scant (though definitely false) hope for an Armada Tidal Wave, somewhat in scale. (At least in the PS2 game.)

Re: Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:04 pm
by Tronus_Rex
Rodimus Prime wrote:All this talk of giant Transformers and aircraft carrier playsets has given me a scant (though definitely false) hope for an Armada Tidal Wave, somewhat in scale. (At least in the PS2 game.)


Hmm...this is relative to my interests. >:oP






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TidalWave in colour by Blitz-Wing - Deviantart

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Re: Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:15 pm
by GuyIncognito
I've always felt Tidal Wave was an underappreciated figure. I'd love to see a reissue, repaint, or new Classics-verse/Generations version. In fact, I think Generations Metroplex could be repainted/remolded into a sweet Tidal Wave. It could be as easy as removing the wheels so it looks more like a water-born aircraft carrier, giving it a new head mold, and then repainting it. (And replace Scamper with a Legends-scale Ramjet.)

Re: Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:10 pm
by Mindmaster
GuyIncognito wrote:I've always felt Tidal Wave was an underappreciated figure. I'd love to see a reissue, repaint, or new Classics-verse/Generations version. In fact, I think Generations Metroplex could be repainted/remolded into a sweet Tidal Wave. It could be as easy as removing the wheels so it looks more like a water-born aircraft carrier, giving it a new head mold, and then repainting it. (And replace Scamper with a Legends-scale Ramjet.)


While I'm not certain about retooling Metroplex into Tidal Wave, I would go out of my way to get a Generations Tidal Wave. Bonus points if they use the Legends Starscream mold to make Ramjet! :ic$:

Re: Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:42 pm
by RiddlerJ
I have my Legends class Decepticons living in the 1988 Technodrome playset from TMNT. I bought it off Ebay specifically for that.

Because the Technodrome is awesome. :grin:

Re: Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:55 pm
by GuyIncognito
TMNT has a new playset, and it's pretty big. If I was a kid into TMNT, I would be begging Santa for this:

http://www.toysrus.com/buy/play-sets-ro ... 0-12897673

Re: Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:19 am
by Arctorro
RiddlerJ wrote:I have my Legends class Decepticons living in the 1988 Technodrome playset from TMNT. I bought it off Ebay specifically for that.

Because the Technodrome is awesome. :grin:
That is awesome!

GuyIncognito wrote:TMNT has a new playset, and it's pretty big. If I was a kid into TMNT, I would be begging Santa for this:

http://www.toysrus.com/buy/play-sets-ro ... 0-12897673
:shock:

If I wasn't collecting transformers...

Re: Metroplex '13, USS Flagg, the 1980's, and the Future.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 9:06 am
by RiddlerJ
GuyIncognito wrote:TMNT has a new playset, and it's pretty big. If I was a kid into TMNT, I would be begging Santa for this:

http://www.toysrus.com/buy/play-sets-ro ... 0-12897673


I did see that and was drooling. I love playsets.

When you're a kid, there's something so satisfying about having an actual place for the figures to muck about as opposed as the kitchen table.