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man, this looks bad. it would not be so bad if it were not such a bad shell former. i could forgive it if something was done about that back kibble.

such a terrible shell former.. i knew this was going to happen simply because of the new design of the robot.

it's such a shame that they totally screwed themselves for this entire toy line.

also..why doesn't hasbro understand that people like bumblebee's battle mask much more than they do his actual face. his battle mask in this movie is extremely cool, but no, we get the standard redundant bumblebee face.

His wannabe ninja stars look stupid. I wonder how stinger will turn out

Thanks for designing shellformers and shelf warmers.
I'm going for ROTF & DOTM Optimus.

Anyone else seeing IDW Bee in that? Similar transformation, kibbke, rear end vehucle profile? No?

Alpha Weltall wrote:I was gonna ask what happened to all of the Blazemasters that's supposed to go with those Legends BBs but after reading that the gun is DOTM Jolts I think I have an answer, and more questions. Most of the time Targetmasters and Mechtech weapons are gang molded with their originally intended figures. Takara is releasing DOTM Jolts with new weapons so all the gang molded Mechtech weapons left over might be what they're using for these. Also Takara is releasing clear repaints of the first four legends Targetmasters so that's probably where this BB's Blazemasters went. But my new question is where did the legends Optimus Primes, Starscreams and Megatrons go? More repaints soon with new/no weapons?

Just me overthinking things...IGNORE ME!!!!!!!!

Dont hink thats the case, as a lot of Mechtech weapons gt tossed around and I don't think thats the case. Could be wrong. Also, when I think of gang molding, i tend to think that the majority of the plastics are shared. Crumplezone and Cyclinus, he Micromaster teams, etc. Being that Bee and Blazenaster are different colors, Different bases, not sure they are a single shared mold. Although we are getting Arms Micron Jolt, so you could be on to something.

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Ugh! This Deluxe Bumblebee is worse than Beast Machines Megatron Megabolt. It looks like an up-scaled version of a One-step Changer. I don't mind the Generations Bumblebee repaint.

craggy wrote:Master Of The Dark Arts Bumblebee?

can he be sold all over the US even with those pentagrams?

Ouch! I can see Bumblebee's weapons being recalled because parents would think this is inappropriate for kids. Or there could be variants of the weapons?

OMG!! The ignorance! It BURNS!!!!

Any parent mistaking those PENTACLE resembling items for satanic pentagrams (big freaking difference) deserves to have their ass beat for being so blatantly stupid AND procreating. And for the record, those resemble pentacles only in the vaguest sense.
FFS people...EDUCATE YOURSELVES! You're already on the internet, use it for good for once!

Now then... getting back to the main topic that I was going to be an ass about before I felt the need to make a detour: Isn't the whole concept of "Evolution" supposed to be about changing from one form to a higher form? 'Cause I'm not seeing it here in this two pack. Furthermore, I think they should stop screwing us over with these mini-figures packaged with the deluxe figures. The first Bumblebee Evolution pack that had Classics 'Bee with Deluxe Movie Bee was far superior and much less insulting than this meager offering. This isn't evolution on Hasbro's part, this is a massive step BACKWARDS!

I want to lock Michael Bay inside a yellow camaro and dump it somewhere deep in the ocean. Enough with the damn Bumblebees !

Rated X wrote:I want to lock Michael Bay inside a yellow camaro and dump it somewhere deep in the ocean. Enough with the damn Bumblebees !

I like your thinking, that's a very "Stick it to the man!" gesture. It's widely known, of course, that the General Motors Corporation and Michael Bay are directly responsible for the case assortments of all Transformers product and they are the ones demanding that Hasbro include half a dozen Bumblebee toys in every case. Just imagine if we lived in a twisted world where Bay and GM had nothing to do with that and instead the retailers were in control of case assortment and product ordering. I'm sure that in such a world, we would get perfectly balanced cases and every new assortment of figures would ship in droves, especially the Generations because obviously nostalgic adult collectors have more buying power than young children and their parents. Unfortunately we do not live in such a world, and so I applaud your suggestion that directly addresses the parties responsible for the abundance of Bees.

Umm....why does Bumblebee have pentagrams for weapons?

shockblast2 wrote:Umm....why does Bumblebee have pentagrams for weapons?

T-Macks already explained it (in his usual eloquent manner):

T-Macksimus wrote:OMG!! The ignorance! It BURNS!!!!

Any parent mistaking those PENTACLE resembling items for satanic pentagrams (big freaking difference) deserves to have their ass beat for being so blatantly stupid AND procreating. And for the record, those resemble pentacles only in the vaguest sense.
FFS people...EDUCATE YOURSELVES! You're already on the internet, use it for good for once!

Yep, that's our T-Macks.

Leader Class Bumblebee Age Of Extinction Official Boxed picture

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Sabrblade wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:Umm....why does Bumblebee have pentagrams for weapons?

T-Macks already explained it (in his usual eloquent manner):

T-Macksimus wrote:OMG!! The ignorance! It BURNS!!!!

Any parent mistaking those PENTACLE resembling items for satanic pentagrams (big freaking difference) deserves to have their ass beat for being so blatantly stupid AND procreating. And for the record, those resemble pentacles only in the vaguest sense.
FFS people...EDUCATE YOURSELVES! You're already on the internet, use it for good for once!

Yep, that's our T-Macks.

And to my knowledge, a Pentagram (a five-pointed star made out of 5 straight lines as per definition) is only Satanic in nature with one point aiming down to... that place.

And I must say: called a Legends mold, but not the one I was expecting

Oh Gawd ...

If this is the only deluxe (please God let it be) of the new Camaro design we get...then why the hell can't we get one that is a uniformed yellow color. ? It would be nice if the shellformer was properly transformed as it looks to be taking straight from package and photographed.

Stop paying your photographers the big bucks Hasbro!!! I'm sure you have an intern or 12 with an IPHONE (piece a crap) in their little pockets to take pictures for you!!!

~reluctantyouth~

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:Umm....why does Bumblebee have pentagrams for weapons?

T-Macks already explained it (in his usual eloquent manner):

T-Macksimus wrote:OMG!! The ignorance! It BURNS!!!!

Any parent mistaking those PENTACLE resembling items for satanic pentagrams (big freaking difference) deserves to have their ass beat for being so blatantly stupid AND procreating. And for the record, those resemble pentacles only in the vaguest sense.
FFS people...EDUCATE YOURSELVES! You're already on the internet, use it for good for once!

Yep, that's our T-Macks.

And to my knowledge, a Pentagram (a five-pointed star made out of 5 straight lines as per definition) is only Satanic in nature with one point aiming down to... that place.

And I must say: called a Legends mold, but not the one I was expecting

Not true. The pentacle, or pentagram, as we call it today, is a magic symbol used in the worship of the horned god, Pan. Or Satan, as we call him today. Doesn't matter which way it is pointing, however, I do believe most wiccans and the like face the point due north.

Also not true, and we're veering off topic here.

Craggy's comment was not meant to be taken seriously, and the replies after that may or may not have understood the humour.

Please carry on talking about the figures, and leave the devils out of it.

T-Macksimus wrote:

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Ugh! This Deluxe Bumblebee is worse than Beast Machines Megatron Megabolt. It looks like an up-scaled version of a One-step Changer. I don't mind the Generations Bumblebee repaint.

craggy wrote:Master Of The Dark Arts Bumblebee?

can he be sold all over the US even with those pentagrams?

Ouch! I can see Bumblebee's weapons being recalled because parents would think this is inappropriate for kids. Or there could be variants of the weapons?

OMG!! The ignorance! It BURNS!!!!

Any parent mistaking those PENTACLE resembling items for satanic pentagrams (big freaking difference) deserves to have their ass beat for being so blatantly stupid AND procreating. And for the record, those resemble pentacles only in the vaguest sense.
FFS people...EDUCATE YOURSELVES! You're already on the internet, use it for good for once!

Now then... getting back to the main topic that I was going to be an ass about before I felt the need to make a detour: Isn't the whole concept of "Evolution" supposed to be about changing from one form to a higher form? 'Cause I'm not seeing it here in this two pack. Furthermore, I think they should stop screwing us over with these mini-figures packaged with the deluxe figures. The first Bumblebee Evolution pack that had Classics 'Bee with Deluxe Movie Bee was far superior and much less insulting than this meager offering. This isn't evolution on Hasbro's part, this is a massive step BACKWARDS!

You ought to have your ass beat for being such an idiot. Especially since you obviously know nothing about what you speak of, and yet, just like other morons on the internet, cannot help themselves but to run their mouths about something they know nothing about. A pentagram and a pentacle are the same thing. The only difference is a pentacle has a circle around it. If you had half a brain and used it then one simple wiki search would have told you that.

To educate you further on the matter, the pentagram represents the ten kingdoms of Israel that ceded from Judah and Benjamin, who made the 12 tribes of Israel, during the time of Solomon. It is a symbol of rebellion, and has been used by magicians and kabbalists since it was created. It is believed that one could control a demon using it in magic rituals. The circle placed around it is a seal of sorts. Thus why the name pentagram and pentacle can be used to describe the SAME thing. Calling a pentacle a pentagram is correct, while calling a pentacle a pentagram would be incorrect due to the fact that the circle defines the pentacle, even though it is primarily a pentagram.

Try to keep that in mind the next time you run your mouth.

Va'al wrote:Also not true, and we're veering off topic here.

Craggy's comment was not meant to be taken seriously, and the replies after that may or may not have understood the humour.

Please carry on talking about the figures, and leave the devils out of it.

Why is it that no one tries to put a stop to someones ignorance on here, even when they are saying things that is considered a personal attack, until someone else rebuts the ignorance with facts? Why not put out the fire before it starts? T-Mack there insults any parent with children who would believe such a thing and no one says jack. Until now, especially when they read my rebut? Now it will be deleted, and a person like me will get reprimanded for it, when he should have had his comment deleted and him reprimanded before most others even read it?

I had asked to get back on track, can we please do that? As always, try resolving issues without calling names, pointing fingers and attacking other users - and by personal messages if it has really little to with the thread at hand.

And this applies to everyone in the thread, especially the post-craggy replies.

Please, return on topic.

Va'al wrote:I had asked to get back on track, can we please do that? As always, try resolving issues without calling names, pointing fingers and attacking other users - and by personal messages if it has really little to with the thread at hand.

And this applies to everyone in the thread, especially the post-craggy replies.

Please, return on topic.

No disrespect Va'al. But it was on topic until the personal attacks ensued. The fact is Bumblebee's weapons look like pentagrams. Just an interesting side comment. Never became an issue until others had to run their mouths. And it is normally not an issue, but he said some pretty horrible things. I mean, to tell people not to have children just because they think differently than you. That is insane.

I forgive him for it, because he doesn't know any better, so I am cool with it. Just an interesting side note that they would choose that as a weapon design. Makes you wonder if the designer themselves is a wiccan or something to that sort.

Reminds me of the middle fingered deal with Crankcase in DOTM. They will probably sell more of these just because of that. As far as parents not buying it because of it, I don't see that happening today. If anything, people will buy more just for the novelty. Just like Decepticon "Fingers" Crankcase.

Man are toys not great guys? This is why we are all here! Love of toys.

I am looking forward to wave 2. I have had wave 1 a month now

Yet more news hails in from the Facebook fanpage Transformers Colombia! Seibertron.com user Primeultimus has pointed us towards the official images, both in and out of its package, of Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Bumblebee - which appears to be none other than a repainted Dark of the Moon Leader Class Bumblebee without its MechTech weapon. Check it out below.

I don't hate this figure, nor do I need it, but I predict fanrage over "another Bumblebee" in 3... 2... 1...

Sabrblade wrote:I don't the figure, nor do I need it, but I predict fanrage over "another Bumblebee" in 3... 2... 1...

Because we have so little of that already. I'm really looking forward to more negativity!

I wish it was black At least match the Artwork on the box!

Will be passing on that Bee until it shows on clearance or discount stores.

DOTM version will do for now.

My updated Leader Class collection