Ok I was gonna do the whole quote everybody thing but I think i'll just use their forum names and answer to that..
Spoon, I agree with you, i think that simply saying someone should leave the fandom is a completely stupid reason to ban someone, I can see as an admin them banning for excessive cussing, or sexual harrassment, non subsiding arguements, or bigotry, but making a statement like that is not detrimental to me or my beliefs...If Maximus Prime was to ban me for making that statement i would feel like he was being overly sensative and emotional...By the way i love you spoon..your level headedness is a breath of freash air..
Shadowman, i feel we are all entitled to our opinions, however misguided, its still a freedom to speak one's mind regardless of how it pisses you off as a fan.
And Burn, i gotta agree with Bluebullet on the recognition of optimus Prime thing, though i don't have statistics or anything, i will say that most of the 30,40 to 50 year olds I have met and who have been around me and my family when i talk about upcoming movies know exactly who optimus prime is.. funny but true..and i need to face reality.. i will be 30 at the end of this month...Sigh
Stormrider.....your just THE MAN!!! thank you so much for giving the friendly editorial on the older forum veterans, and breaking down the whole Bay arguement thing.. I love reading your posts, you have an eliquent way with stating level headed opinions..
Now with that said, back to the whole point of this post in the first place...After reading Seibertron's review..and I will say sorry about your digital camera..
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I have a couple of things I want to say about this film..I, like the majority of you, was very against this movie from the designs and leaked information i had recieved early on in this forum..over time I have become more and more open to the new movie and see it for what it will be.. I understand the script for the first movie seems mindless, but I don't view this movie as having to be too intelligent from the get go.. think of Star Wars Episode 4, it was a running action flick, with insightful touches on concepts, but really didn't go too far indepth into the whoile Jedi mystery until the later movies..
to the average movie goer Transformers will be similar, to us we will be bored because we are already familiar with the concept "indepth" and it will seem like this is just an action movie... but look at it from the first time perspective and you'll be amazed at how it mirrors star wars..Big chase seen all the way through, epic battles and a small group of core friends trying to survive the doom thats racing after them..
I am hopeful that in the sequel they will touch more on the whole background and mythos of the transformers themselves.. this movie should be viewed as more of an introduction to the franchise, like Star Wars a new hope was, with a wild ride, and that new friends as a team thing..I.E. bumblebee, Spike, ect...similar to Luke, R2, C3po, Obi Wan.. Ect..
Intelligent in the beginning of a Never viewed in the movies franchise will kill it if you trying to mass market an idea..so It should be this way in my view..That said.. I am glad to see that the robots will be talking and I hope we have a huge bit of dialogue with respects to megatron and Starscream.. because that is core to the transformers and should definately show from the get go..
As far as the robots designs themselves and the impending toy line, i feel its safe to say, that as far as movie toys go, this line willt ake off with a fierceness we have never seen before..Remeber when you were a kid around 9 or 10.."if you can" and that feeling you got when you went into the toy isle and looked for that Darth Vader figure, or Luke skywalker..and you remembered how awsome the movie was as you searched feverishly for that one favorite toy you thought might be sold out??
well, I have no doubt in my mind kids all over will be doing the same.. to them this will be awesome, they will marvel at the CGI, and will tell their friends at school what new transformers they have bought after the movie debuts...They may have watched "Cybertron" and bought some of those toys.. but to them this will be "The Transformers For Real!!!!" and thats exactly how my son sees it, and he's very excited.. which in turn makes me excited.. i am a Huge G-1 purist.. but through my son, i see this new Transformers movie as G-1 but with a fresh set of eyes and perspective..
I love this new take on the classic characters, so what if its not the blocky robots from our past, they look like real robots that transform, not to mention they hold some semblenece of the orignial characters, And as a fan of the Transformers franchise, i see G-1 on the big screen, modified, but it has Spike, megatron, Optimus As a Truck.. Starscream as a Jet, I love Blackout, and the whole hologram Military base attack screams G-1 Cartoon...!!!
Also we have Peter Cullen, and Hopefully Welker...
DUDE!!! lets be excited!!! its ok to like the movie, studio Hype aside, Director to fan smoosing aside, Bay and Spielberg aside... this is transformers in live action, CGI greatness with Spike!! its G-1..its updated and for a 9 to 15 year old this is gonna be a real treat!! As a soon to be 30 year old.. Arggghhh Sigh!! I don't wanna leave my 20s... anyways.. I feel this movie is so gonna rock, and I am very much looking forward to it..I have my wallet stockpiled for the movie figures, and I will say one thing, Megatron, Optimus, Blackout, Ironhide.. will be my first Purchases..Not fond of Bumblebee.. thats my only real complaint.. he should have a movable battlemask come down over his head...
Kudos to Seibertron's review..and the rest of you who still down and hate this movie.. all i can say is "Don't watch it" but for those of you who are sitting on the fence.. take the "this is the first time" perspective, see it through a new set of eyes.. as Obi Wan Kinobi once said.."you must unlearn what you have learned"..
Thanks for being a wonderful fandom..