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DeathReviews wrote:Arial:
They've got gadgets and gizmos a-plenty!
They've got whozits and whatzits galore!
You want thing-a-ma-bobs? Each one's got twenty!
And if that - weren't enough?
They transfooooooorm....!

Just came here to applaud this comment.

PhunkJunkion wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Arial:
They've got gadgets and gizmos a-plenty!
They've got whozits and whatzits galore!
You want thing-a-ma-bobs? Each one's got twenty!
And if that - weren't enough?
They transfooooooorm....!

Just came here to applaud this comment.

It's cute that his exo-suit make him look like a mini Mirage.

PhunkJunkion wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Arial:
They've got gadgets and gizmos a-plenty!
They've got whozits and whatzits galore!
You want thing-a-ma-bobs? Each one's got twenty!
And if that - weren't enough?
They transfooooooorm....!

Just came here to applaud this comment.

Thanks!
Death: Master of entertainment

The Little Mermaid: Rise of the Beasts. I"m glad they cast Peter Cullen as Ariel.

I love both the scene we got and the goofy mashup.

First-Aid wrote:It's nice to see how much they've cleaned up the CGI in this scene from the teaser trailer. I'm also getting the feeling Mirage is kind of an idiot or maybe a Hot Shot (Armada) type character.

DId Wheeljack seriously go Alfa-5 on us in this spot?

Having Jackie's VA play a new version of Alpha-5 would be neat for another PR reboot if they're using a few MMPR elements.

Quantum Surge wrote:I love both the scene we got and the goofy mashup.

First-Aid wrote:It's nice to see how much they've cleaned up the CGI in this scene from the teaser trailer. I'm also getting the feeling Mirage is kind of an idiot or maybe a Hot Shot (Armada) type character.

DId Wheeljack seriously go Alfa-5 on us in this spot?

Having Jackie's VA play a new version of Alpha-5 would be neat for another PR reboot if they're using a few MMPR elements.

Eep! Cross-fanning! Too...much...nerdage....

Quantum Surge wrote:I love both the scene we got and the goofy mashup.

First-Aid wrote:It's nice to see how much they've cleaned up the CGI in this scene from the teaser trailer. I'm also getting the feeling Mirage is kind of an idiot or maybe a Hot Shot (Armada) type character.

DId Wheeljack seriously go Alfa-5 on us in this spot?

Having Jackie's VA play a new version of Alpha-5 would be neat for another PR reboot if they're using a few MMPR elements.

We did just get back Richard Steven Horvitz for Alpha (8 and 9) in the MMPR 30th anniversary special a few weeks back.

On TFW2005, there are probably 10 pages discussing the pros and cons of Mirage saying "stranger Danger" in the clip and how that can mean the film is terrible.
But if we step back a bit, it is kinda crazy that we are actually able to have such a discussion. That argument alone means that there is a transformers character in this film that is beign focused on regarding their personality. The only time we've ever had that in Bayverse is with Optimus and the discussion was the debate with him being a psycho or not.

It is pretty amazing that after all these years, we actually have a film with a group of Transformers where the robots will be the focus. Should have been this way from the start, but we've come a long way none the less.

william-james88 wrote:On TFW2005, there are probably 10 pages discussing the pros and cons of Mirage saying "stranger Danger" in the clip and how that can mean the film is terrible.

That's totally random and hilarious!

Still, I'm curious to see if the robots will REALLY be the focus this time around.
I'm looking forward to June to find out.

Dr. Caelus wrote:I think instead it must be a powermaster partner I'm thinking of???

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking. It's definitely got the powermaster vibe.

~ Grim

Let's face it, continuity in the Transformers franchise is out the door and it is not in any way something that Paramount gives much importance to. However, they do want to highlight chronology when looking at this franchise as a whole, so that the general audience knows where they are situated in this franchise's timeline. So in this official clip from Paramount below, the director reassesses where this film fits chronologically within the live action film series.
The clip also highlights three new characters: Noah, Elena and Mirage. It is cool that we actually get a highlight of a Transformers character, giving us insight into his personality, something we wouldn't get in the past with this franchise for characters not named Bumblebee or Optimus.

The clip give us new footage of the Museum setting filmed in Montreal and one second more of the fight with Primal vs Battletrap.

"In chronological order, this is the second of the Transformers movies. It takes place in the '90s, shortly after Bumblebee."

Well, yeah. We knew that.

Sabrblade wrote:"In chronological order, this is the second of the Transformers movies. It takes place in the '90s, shortly after Bumblebee."

Well, yeah. We knew that.

Some people need clarification, plus it further highlights how Paramount sees all these live action films as one set of Transformers movies. They are staying far away from the R word here.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:"In chronological order, this is the second of the Transformers movies. It takes place in the '90s, shortly after Bumblebee."

Well, yeah. We knew that.

Some people need clarification, plus it further highlights how Paramount sees all these live action films as one set of Transformers movies. They are staying far away from the R word here.

Considering how common "R" words are these days, their proclivity towards keeping all the movies under one banner raises a few eyebrows. Makes me wonder if Transformers: One will "suffer" the same fate?

I have a tingling feeling that perhaps Earth is indeed still Unicron? And the flashbacks we see are prior to his time as our homeworld? And perhaps Optimus must travel within the Earth to confront him (Hence why we see him literally eye-to-eye with the Cron man himself)?

Stormshot_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:"In chronological order, this is the second of the Transformers movies. It takes place in the '90s, shortly after Bumblebee."

Well, yeah. We knew that.

Some people need clarification, plus it further highlights how Paramount sees all these live action films as one set of Transformers movies. They are staying far away from the R word here.

Considering how common "R" words are these days, their proclivity towards keeping all the movies under one banner raises a few eyebrows. Makes me wonder if Transformers: One will "suffer" the same fate?

I have a tingling feeling that perhaps Earth is indeed still Unicron? And the flashbacks we see are prior to his time as our homeworld? And perhaps Optimus must travel within the Earth to confront him (Hence why we see him literally eye-to-eye with the Cron man himself)?

I've wondered about that myself. A prequel that sets up a sequel to TLK? Remember the post credit scene where there is a holographic human who is asking if we wanted to know how to beat Unicron? Mirage would explain that, or perhaps surviving Maximals (being on the seashore could set up Depth Charge). The Transwarp keys could imprison Unicron's spark in the Earth somehow. That would be a "logical" setup. That would set up a two movie fight to keep Unicron from ripping the Earth apart.

Another possibility is that Scourge and the Terrorcons were called to Earth as Unicron is ALREADY the planet and the view we saw of Unicron from space and eating a planet was a flashback during an explanation of what he is.

First-Aid wrote:Another possibility is that Scourge and the Terrorcons were called to Earth as Unicron is ALREADY the planet and the view we saw of Unicron from space and eating a planet was a flashback during an explanation of what he is.

I really hope this isn't the case.

Stormshot_Prime wrote:I have a tingling feeling that perhaps Earth is indeed still Unicron? And the flashbacks we see are prior to his time as our homeworld? And perhaps Optimus must travel within the Earth to confront him (Hence why we see him literally eye-to-eye with the Cron man himself)?

Optimus in this movie mustn't find out about Unicron being Earth since that revelation comes as a shock to him later in TLK.

Unless he gets some kind of amnesia between movies, which would be bleh.

First-Aid wrote:Remember the post credit scene where there is a holographic human who is asking if we wanted to know how to beat Unicron?

Yeah, that was Quintessa.

Sabrblade wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:I have a tingling feeling that perhaps Earth is indeed still Unicron? And the flashbacks we see are prior to his time as our homeworld? And perhaps Optimus must travel within the Earth to confront him (Hence why we see him literally eye-to-eye with the Cron man himself)?

Optimus in this movie mustn't find out about Unicron being Earth since that revelation comes as a shock to him later in TLK.

Unless he gets some kind of amnesia between movies, which would be bleh.

First-Aid wrote:Remember the post credit scene where there is a holographic human who is asking if we wanted to know how to beat Unicron?

Yeah, that was Quintessa.

This is a good point, that revelation seems to be news to all the Bots. That, and we see ancient texts depicting Earth's true nature as Unicron that were written waaay before the modern day.

Quintessa herself as a character brings up another good point; Are we going with the Quintesson "builder" creation story, or rolling it back to the Allspark? A mix? Unicron's presence also typically brings with it Primus and/or the Matrix (which Optimus shouldn't technically have...)

I think from a purely practical, non-fan perspective, that the studios simply don't care about the continuity of Unicron being whatever. Whatever happens in ROTB will probably be forgotten by the next one anyways; Maximals who?

There's only so much in-universe time between the current setting of "the 90's" and 2007 for the OG film.

Stormshot_Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:I have a tingling feeling that perhaps Earth is indeed still Unicron? And the flashbacks we see are prior to his time as our homeworld? And perhaps Optimus must travel within the Earth to confront him (Hence why we see him literally eye-to-eye with the Cron man himself)?

Optimus in this movie mustn't find out about Unicron being Earth since that revelation comes as a shock to him later in TLK.

Unless he gets some kind of amnesia between movies, which would be bleh.

First-Aid wrote:Remember the post credit scene where there is a holographic human who is asking if we wanted to know how to beat Unicron?

Yeah, that was Quintessa.

This is a good point, that revelation seems to be news to all the Bots. That, and we see ancient texts depicting Earth's true nature as Unicron that were written waaay before the modern day.

Quintessa herself as a character brings up another good point; Are we going with the Quintesson "builder" creation story, or rolling it back to the Allspark? A mix? Unicron's presence also typically brings with it Primus and/or the Matrix (which Optimus shouldn't technically have...)

I think from a purely practical, non-fan perspective, that the studios simply don't care about the continuity of Unicron being whatever. Whatever happens in ROTB will probably be forgotten by the next one anyways; Maximals who?

There's only so much in-universe time between the current setting of "the 90's" and 2007 for the OG film.

You bring up a good point regarding the Matrix. If Optimus is ever revealed to already have it in this movie, then these movies will have officially proven to have a worse grasp on continuity than Power Rangers Super Megaforce, and that's BAD.

It's not that these films have a bad grasp on continuity, it's that they don't care.
These movies make no sense continuity wise but are still part of the same chronology, as far as what Paramount is saying.

Stormshot_Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:I have a tingling feeling that perhaps Earth is indeed still Unicron? And the flashbacks we see are prior to his time as our homeworld? And perhaps Optimus must travel within the Earth to confront him (Hence why we see him literally eye-to-eye with the Cron man himself)?

Optimus in this movie mustn't find out about Unicron being Earth since that revelation comes as a shock to him later in TLK.

Unless he gets some kind of amnesia between movies, which would be bleh.

First-Aid wrote:Remember the post credit scene where there is a holographic human who is asking if we wanted to know how to beat Unicron?

Yeah, that was Quintessa.

This is a good point, that revelation seems to be news to all the Bots. That, and we see ancient texts depicting Earth's true nature as Unicron that were written waaay before the modern day.

Quintessa herself as a character brings up another good point; Are we going with the Quintesson "builder" creation story, or rolling it back to the Allspark? A mix? Unicron's presence also typically brings with it Primus and/or the Matrix (which Optimus shouldn't technically have...)

I think from a purely practical, non-fan perspective, that the studios simply don't care about the continuity of Unicron being whatever. Whatever happens in ROTB will probably be forgotten by the next one anyways; Maximals who?

There's only so much in-universe time between the current setting of "the 90's" and 2007 for the OG film.

The Primus aspect is interesting especially as Cybertron was in Earth Orbit at the end of TLK. If Unicron is Earth and he is awakening, then Primus would be there to "fight" him- likely on an "astral" scale and not in the physical aspect. Suddenly, restoration of the Allspark could become a MAJOR plot point as Primus's restoration would ALSO become paramount. An entire movie could center around that and the race to restore Primus to prevent Unicron from fully awakening and tearing the Earth to shreds.

The new clips and stuff have me interested, I have enjoyed them. I also like how Mirage and Wheeljack do appear to be young guys, it's a cool touch.

Also, so glad to see how hard they are ramping up the marketing at last. The amount of posters and stuff has been crazy.

The way they've marketed these, I think they're only setting these up as prequels to the first three films and ignoring AoE and TLK entirely. Kind of like how the Halloween movies basically ignored the films everyone hated and made sequels that were essentially reboots of the continuity.

And honestly? I can't blame them. I doubt the greater movie going public liked or even remembered those last two Bay films.

So with that in mind, I wouldn't count on anything we learned about Unicron in TLK to matter. Could still be Earth, could be a whole other thing, but I doubt anything we learned in later movies will be referenced here.

Realistically, Bumblebee was a reboot that barely holds up to scrutiny when compared to the other films (most of the character designs don't match, it's HEAVILY implied that Optimus and the others didn't arrive on Earth until Bumblebee found Sam, S7 should have already existed to warn the government about Shatter and Dropkick, etc), but whatever.

Sabrblade wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:I have a tingling feeling that perhaps Earth is indeed still Unicron? And the flashbacks we see are prior to his time as our homeworld? And perhaps Optimus must travel within the Earth to confront him (Hence why we see him literally eye-to-eye with the Cron man himself)?

Optimus in this movie mustn't find out about Unicron being Earth since that revelation comes as a shock to him later in TLK.

Unless he gets some kind of amnesia between movies, which would be bleh.

First-Aid wrote:Remember the post credit scene where there is a holographic human who is asking if we wanted to know how to beat Unicron?

Yeah, that was Quintessa.

This is a good point, that revelation seems to be news to all the Bots. That, and we see ancient texts depicting Earth's true nature as Unicron that were written waaay before the modern day.

Quintessa herself as a character brings up another good point; Are we going with the Quintesson "builder" creation story, or rolling it back to the Allspark? A mix? Unicron's presence also typically brings with it Primus and/or the Matrix (which Optimus shouldn't technically have...)

I think from a purely practical, non-fan perspective, that the studios simply don't care about the continuity of Unicron being whatever. Whatever happens in ROTB will probably be forgotten by the next one anyways; Maximals who?

There's only so much in-universe time between the current setting of "the 90's" and 2007 for the OG film.

You bring up a good point regarding the Matrix. If Optimus is ever revealed to already have it in this movie, then these movies will have officially proven to have a worse grasp on continuity than Power Rangers Super Megaforce, and that's BAD.

There is no series in the history of cinema with a worse sense of continuity than the Highlander franchise.