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Rodimus Knight wrote:It would make some sense to use them since they already have the models worked up in the computer systems. I would assume that would save them a lot of money right there.

Most of those designs would need to be heavily altered or changed entirely, take a closer look at the designs from Bumblebee, the only ones that look like they could transform to any type of convincing Earth vehicle with small edits are the ones that were designed as Earth-like vehicles first before the Cybertron sequence was even conceived which would be Optimus, Bumblebee, Shatter, Dropkick, Starscream/Blitzwing/Seekers.

The rest of the designs were "kitbashed" using these already existing models such as Shatter into Arcee, Bumblebee into Brawn or Optimus into Shockwave/Soundwave and quickly made in a few weeks, their not polished designs for main character roles. (Brawn, Shockwave and Soundwave are the worst in this regard, there's almost nothing about them that looks like they could transform, almost to the level of AOE Galvatron who had the point that they didn't transform traditionally anyways.)

The Earth mode versions would need to be almost entirely new designs bar things like head/hands/feet presuming they were not integrated with any vehicle parts, so the existing assets excuse only helps to a pretty minor extent.

They are all cybertronian, sharing similar structures makes sense for a common race.

According to these links, Angel Manuel Soto used to play with Transformers toys when he was a kid, so we got a director who's a childhood fan now ascended to professional work on the brand.

Deadput wrote:The rest of the designs were "kitbashed" using these already existing models such as Shatter into Arcee, Bumblebee into Brawn or Optimus into Shockwave/Soundwave and quickly made in a few weeks, their not polished designs for main character roles. (Brawn, Shockwave and Soundwave are the worst in this regard, there's almost nothing about them that looks like they could transform, almost to the level of AOE Galvatron who had the point that they didn't transform traditionally anyways.)

That, or just non-traditional altmodes? Akin to the Sunbow MTMTE pilot.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:That, or just non-traditional altmodes? Akin to the Sunbow MTMTE pilot.

I mean that as in they literally can't transform due to not having the panels or parts needed to transform.

Look at Brawn



There's not a part of him that looks like it could change, he looks like a terminator wearing armor.

It's not a transformable design much like Shockwave and Soundwave.

I dunno, at a glance I could see his legs combining. Swinging up via the silver strip on his chest and creating a turret. With his arms as stability struts.

Not everything in Transformers has to be a vehicle.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I dunno, at a glance I could see his legs combining. Swinging up via the silver strip on his chest and creating a turret. With his arms as stability struts.

Not everything in Transformers has to be a vehicle.

Because a Cybertronian turret is a perfect disguise for Earth, when has a G1 inspired Brawn (the point of the designs) ever transform into something that wasn't a truck-like vehicle?

The point is that these designs were not created to ever transform and it shows, their rushed designs and are unlikely to be used as the base for the next movie besides small parts like heads and hands, if the characters show up the designs will likely be new even if they are equally as G1 inspired.

Just a reminder: They gave a Protoform an altmode in Bayformers.


Plus, it doesn't matter what they looked like on Cybertron really. Rushed or otherwise. If they wanted these designs to transform in the BB movie, they would have regardless.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Just a reminder: They gave a Protoform an altmode in Bayformers.


Plus, it doesn't matter what they looked like on Cybertron really. Rushed or otherwise. If they wanted these designs to transform in the BB movie, they would have regardless.

Right and I'm just saying it doesn't matter if the Bumblebee designs existed to be used for the next movie if their not going to use much of anything from those designs, so it's almost exactly the same as if they were to make a Jazz design straight up from the grounds for the next movie, it would require almost the same amount of work.

Fair enough. Just remember, what they did with Scorponok...

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Fair enough. Just remember, what they did with Scorponok...

That was actually pretty cool. No robot mode, no biggie...that alt mode looked fantastic.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Fair enough. Just remember, what they did with Scorponok...

Scorponok had an alt mode? Or are you referring to the Blackout/Helicoptor parts that were on him?

Deadput wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Fair enough. Just remember, what they did with Scorponok...

Scorponok had an alt mode? Or are you referring to the Blackout/Helicoptor parts that were on him?

No, no. I'm referring to the fact he didn't have an altmode.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Deadput wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Fair enough. Just remember, what they did with Scorponok...

Scorponok had an alt mode? Or are you referring to the Blackout/Helicoptor parts that were on him?

No, no. I'm referring to the fact he didn't have an altmode.

Or did he ONLY have an alt mode? (Twilight Zone music)

First-Aid wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Deadput wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Fair enough. Just remember, what they did with Scorponok...

Scorponok had an alt mode? Or are you referring to the Blackout/Helicoptor parts that were on him?

No, no. I'm referring to the fact he didn't have an altmode.

Or did he ONLY have an alt mode? (Twilight Zone music)

If his 2007 toy is any indicator, it's a really awkward robot mode.



Always thought the legends sized one did the job better.




Scorponok was one of the coolest characters/concepts in the films, we won't likely have anything like him again sadly, loved the "horror" type vibe in his earlier scenes.

No matter anyone's opinion on the first film or the films overall, the Scorponok desert battle in the first film is awesome.

Sabrblade wrote:No matter anyone's opinion on the first film or the films overall, the Scorponok desert battle in the first film is awesome.

I think all 5 of the Bay films had some great individual scenes, action or other wise even some of the human ones, it's just too bad that they can get overlooked by problems each film has as a whole.

I think the first film hold up pretty well although DOTM is my fave of the original trilogy as a whole. Edit: Oh and out of the non-Bumblebee ones as a whole.

Deadput wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:No matter anyone's opinion on the first film or the films overall, the Scorponok desert battle in the first film is awesome.

I think all 5 of the Bay films had some great individual scenes, action or other wise even some of the human ones, it's just too bad that they can get overlooked by problems each film has as a whole.

I suppose it depends on how seriously you take them. They are popcorn movies, fun for what they are, nothing more. As a fandom, we just have an emotional attachment to the IPO.

That Scorponok was fantastic. Scorpy vs A-10s is a scene I will remember. I was sitting next to my brother, a former Marine who saw combat in Iraq, during that fight. They must have used some military-accurate terminology because when they started throwing around the reference for Strike Package Bravo, I heard him say under his breath "Oh sh!t, here it comes..." The grin on his face was priceless. The topper on that scene was Steve Jablonsky's scoring...that music elevated the scene dramatically IMHO.

Greetings Seibertronians! Thanks to fellow Seibertron user, Rysquad, we've been pointed to a deadline article which reports that the Steven Caple Jr helmed Transformers movie (the follow up to Bumblebee), is in final negotiations to cast Hamilton star, Anthony Ramos as the lead. Anthony also starred in Bradley Coopers hit remake of a Star is Born.



The report also states that Anthony has been firmly in the sights for the role from the moment Caple joined the movie. If everything is finalised, it's expected that he will do co-star chemistry tests when more casting is confirmed.

This movie is expected to be the first of four scripts to be completed, with a date set for next year. It currently has the working title of Beast Alliance.

What do you think of this casting news? Excited to see what Anthony will bring to the table and how he'll interact with the Autobots?

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Looking at his filmography,the only thing I seen with him is Godzilla:King of Monsters.
He seens a nice guy.

So can we expect a musical sequence, then?

I showed my wife this (she's a huge Hamilton fan), and her response was: "he's an asshole, that is the opposite type of news you want for a movie"

TulioDude wrote:Looking at his filmography,the only thing I seen with him is Godzilla:King of Monsters.
He seens a nice guy.

He's been faaaaaaaaaar more prominant in the theatre/broadway scene. This would be his major jump into films.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I showed my wife this (she's a huge Hamilton fan), and her response was: "he's an asshole, that is the opposite type of news you want for a movie"

Bigger asshole than Aaron Burr?

So is this guy going to be a human lead or VO?

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So is this guy going to be a human lead or VO?

Given the human-led focus of these films, most likely the human lead.