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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 8:44 am
by Sabrblade
Barricade.it wrote:We exactly know when Optimus, Ironhide, Ratchet and Jazz came on Earth: it's shown on the first movie.

We also know how Megatron came on Earth: it's in the first movie too.

So, We must admit that this is a reboot, a very inconsistent reboot. And it's inconsistent not only with the first trilogy, but even with the last movie: the link between AoE and TLK seeme to be very forced.

No link and no consistency with the first trilogy at all.
Or, all these images are merely for marketing purposes only, recycling preexisting character models for economical reasons, and should instead be taken metaphorically (as in to say that there were TFs present for historical events such as these but not specifically the exact same TFs shown in each image) rather than literally.

Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 11:45 am
by Deadput
So far the only ones shown that actually breaks continuity is Megatron and Ironhide but there could be excuses while a stretch could be ok. (Unlikely to be true this is just speculation and guessing on my part after waking up in the morning)

For Megatron who says his entire time on Earth before 2007 has been while frozen? We only heard this from Optimus and I think Sector 7 so either of those two could be a little wrong so maybe Megatron roamed around for a little before freezing in the ice during say a search for the Allspark.

Sort of unreleated but how did Sector 7 get Megatron from this...

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to this without Megatron unthawing enough for him to kill them all and escape?

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As for Ironhide it is never stated that 2007 was his or any of the others first time on Earth while it doesn't exactly make sense for now it's only Ironhide there so perhaps only he arrived on Earth before and then at some point left somehow maybe he met up with Prime, Jazz, and Ratchet and told them about Earth and where it was.

If their bringing Ironhide on Earth early I actually sort of hope they would bring Jazz too since a prequel film could really help him with becoming more of a character.

Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 11:47 am
by SlyTF1

Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 11:50 am
by Deadput
Now that's a 3d shot if I've ever seen one. :michaelbay:

Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 12:22 pm
by Va'al


Let me fix that for you:

New angle of the same image we have now seen several times of Megatron.
The article is more interesting than the image.

Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 12:31 pm
by Sabrblade
Deadput wrote:Sort of unreleated but how did Sector 7 get Megatron from this...

to this without Megatron unthawing enough for him to kill them all and escape?
Well, there was an answer given in something previously, but it's something you don't see as relevant anymore, so... yeah.

Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 12:52 pm
by Deadput
Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:Sort of unreleated but how did Sector 7 get Megatron from this...

to this without Megatron unthawing enough for him to kill them all and escape?
Well, there was an answer given in something previously, but it's something you don't see as relevant anymore, so... yeah.


I remember there was an S7 comic but I never read it heck I never knew it existed until around 2014

But they refroze Megatron while he was standing in a static pose?

I used to see the comics as canon until the filmmakers said they were not so I just accepted them as alternate universes.

I'm pretty sure AOE, TLK, and the Bee movie are going to render most of the comics non canon heck the 2007 characters (both bot and con) being around already makes some of it non canon.

Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 12:56 pm
by Kurona
I think all this talk about reboots and ignoring the previous movies is... really picky.

I mean, one, as many people pointed out; these are simply for advertisement and promotional purposes. It's... you can't really say this is a continuity error if it's not something directly in the movie itself. This sort of thing is pulled for symbolism and such all the time in advertising. Maybe it IS accurate to what happened in the continuity TLK will represent, but we don't know that yet. Wait for the movie to call fowl on it.

Second, if this advertisement is accurate and they're changing continuity... cool, whatever. These aren't plot-heavy movies, guys. Even Bay himself said that ROTF was too over-complicated or something and they should steer away from that to focusing on the action. If anything retconning stuff like this could lead to a better experience. Bring on a reboot.

Third... you don't have to reach that far to say these movies are bad. I mean, I don't like them myself; but I'm not going to immediately point at something like this and say these are why the movies suck. Criticise the plot, the action, the characterisation, anything - these aren't fantastic movies; if you want to find something to criticise, you will not have a hard time. But if you just jump on whatever tiny piece of advertising comes out and say this is why the movie is going to suck or this is the reason Bayformers is trash, your argument doesn't look that strong. All it does is make you look incredibly nitpicky.

This is just something cute and fun for the fans. Just let 'em have this without being told their passion is awful for every little thing.

Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 1:04 pm
by Deadput
This honestly reminds me of the Sector 7 ARG that also as far as I know wasn't canon.

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 1:05 pm
by Sabrblade
Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:Sort of unreleated but how did Sector 7 get Megatron from this...

to this without Megatron unthawing enough for him to kill them all and escape?
Well, there was an answer given in something previously, but it's something you don't see as relevant anymore, so... yeah.


I remember there was an S7 comic but I never read it heck I never knew it existed until around 2014

But they refroze Megatron while he was standing in a static pose?
No, not the Sector 7 comics. While the discovery of Megatron in the Arctic by Sector Seven (following Archibald Witwicky's original discovery of Megatron) was covered by both those comics and the Movie Prequel comics, it was the Ghosts of Yesterday novel that went into the specifics of how Sector 7 actually transferred Megatron from the Arctic to Hoover Dam. Let's just say it involved a military convoy, an attack by the Soviets, and a while lotta liquid nitrogen.

Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 1:40 pm
by Deadput
Sabrblade wrote:No, not the Sector 7 comics. While the discovery of Megatron in the Arctic by Sector Seven (following Archibald Witwicky's original discovery of Megatron) was covered by both those comics and the Movie Prequel comics, it was the Ghosts of Yesterday novel that went into the specifics of how Sector 7 actually transferred Megatron from the Arctic to Hoover Dam. Let's just say it involved a military convoy, an attack by the Soviets, and a while lotta liquid nitrogen.

Ah yes it was a book then I never read Ghosts of Yesterday either it's the only live action film novel I have not read.

Not to far off then since a comic is kinda like a book.

Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 3:35 pm
by Bronzewolf
We've got a new screencap of Megatron in The Last Knight thanks to the Hollywood Reporter. The image itself depicts Megatron (with his mighty axe-sword of doom) and Captain Lennox, a similar scene to some of the past trailers. However those trailers haven't shown the scene with this much detail and color. Check it out below!

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 5:22 pm
by BERSEKAEL
:POPCORN: I can't wait for this movie!

Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 5:48 pm
by G1OPT1MU5PR1M3
Man, he looks like he was about to be slaughtered, judging from the imprint the axe left on the concrete :BOOM:

Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 8:11 pm
by Seibertron
I still think this could be Megatron's "Coming to Primus" moment, and that he somehow becomes the "Last Knight" in this darkest of hours. A redemption story to bring this Megatron more in line with IDW Megatron, whether he wants to or not, but because of a time of great need. Could be awesome if done right, or it could be terrible if no character development.

Or Megatron's about to kill Lennox. Your pick.

However, the whole "Reveal Your Shield" campaign that goes back to the basics of Autobots versus Decepticons seems to conflict with this theory I've had since the first trailer that showed this scene was revealed. Only 6 weeks to go!

Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 8:25 pm
by Kurona
I highly doubt they'd want to bring this Megatron close to his IDW counterpart in the slightest. Honestly, if anything, they're as opposite characters as can be...

This is more like that scene in countless movies where the protagonists realise that the threat is so big they need to recruit the previous villain to take 'em down. Happens all the time, there's no reason shown so far to believe Megatron is going to be a good guy in any capacity.

Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 9:53 pm
by no-one
Seibertron wrote:I still think this could be Megatron's "Coming to Primus" moment, and that he somehow becomes the "Last Knight" in this darkest of hours. A redemption story to bring this Megatron more in line with IDW Megatron, whether he wants to or not, but because of a time of great need. Could be awesome if done right, or it could be terrible if no character development.
I'm going with this. Looks like a kneel down to me more than a swing. Also note the giant Transformer like shadows being cast from behind Lennox.

Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 12:35 am
by Carnivius_Prime
Seibertron wrote: A redemption story to bring this Megatron more in line with IDW Megatron


nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...



Awesome photo but I really don't want Autobot Megatron bullcrap in the movieverse.

Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 12:56 am
by Rodimus Prime
Wasn't Megatron 1 of the bots punching Prime in the trailer? Does this mean that Megatron, for whatever reason, is actually protecting something or someone from Prime after Prime comes back "evil?" (Which I'm still not entirely sure is the case.) Also, hasn't it been mentioned that at first Lennox and Cade oppose each other, and some Transformers choose sides? Could Megatron and Lennox actually be teaming up? I would like to see a Megatron face-turn, even if temporarily, and not as in-depth as in IDW.

Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 1:12 am
by Deadput
Rodimus Prime wrote:Wasn't Megatron 1 of the bots punching Prime in the trailer? Does this mean that Megatron, for whatever reason, is actually protecting something or someone from Prime after Prime comes back "evil?" (Which I'm still not entirely sure is the case.) Also, hasn't it been mentioned that at first Lennox and Cade oppose each other, and some Transformers choose sides? Could Megatron and Lennox actually be teaming up? I would like to see a Megatron face-turn, even if temporarily, and not as in-depth as in IDW.


I've looked at those scenes carefully and all of them were knights and Megatron wasn't among them.

Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 10:13 am
by John the Destroyer
Deadput wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Wasn't Megatron 1 of the bots punching Prime in the trailer? Does this mean that Megatron, for whatever reason, is actually protecting something or someone from Prime after Prime comes back "evil?" (Which I'm still not entirely sure is the case.) Also, hasn't it been mentioned that at first Lennox and Cade oppose each other, and some Transformers choose sides? Could Megatron and Lennox actually be teaming up? I would like to see a Megatron face-turn, even if temporarily, and not as in-depth as in IDW.


I've looked at those scenes carefully and all of them were knights and Megatron wasn't among them.


Well, there was that scene where Megatron had his sword to Optimus' throat.

Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 11:26 am
by Bronzewolf
The promotional materials company RCM Media has announced their Last Knight collectable movie theater containers that will accompany the movie on June 21st. These include Popcorn buckets as well as drink cups with collectable figures of Sqweeks, Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, and Megatron!

It isn't mentioned what theater chains these will be appearing in, but it's safe to assume you'll be able to find them at most large cinemas.

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 6:38 pm
by dragons
if this is selected theaters i will ask before purchasing big cup i know regal cinemas by doesnt always have these exclusives

Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 8:46 pm
by Emerje
Local Flagship usually gets cups like these, fingers crossed.

Emerje

Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 3:26 pm
by WreckerJack
I kind of want that cup but I think that it will probably cost a lot at the theater. I don't think my stomach could hold 44 oz.