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Randomhero wrote:Seriously, like I said KSI created new transformer tech in the last one

Which is still bonkers in and of itself that a mere human company was able to develop a level of scientific engineering that the very race of super robot aliens they based their tech on never even developed in their own evolution.

Randomhero wrote:and by the end of the movie Joshua became allies with Cade and the Autobots.

Though, in any sane world, he'd be going to jail for the robot uprising he put the pieces together for, or at least be neck-deep in dealing with all the serious hits his company would be taking after KSI helped give Galvatron the army he needed to wreck Hong Kong.

Randomhero wrote:We've seen in the other trailers them working Bee in the junkyard. It's not that hard to figure it out that Bumblebee has been upgraded.

If you have to come up with your own personal rationale for it to make sense (in lieu of the film's presently not yet being released, of course), then doesn't it stand to reason that the presentation given as is doesn't make sense on its own since the explanation is coming from yourself rather than the source trailer we're provided with?

Randomhero wrote:Certainly better and throwing a fit over 5 seconds in a 2 minute trailer to a over 2 hour long movie.

Ah, thank you for enlightening me that one having a different opinion from yourself, and pointing out nonsense with elements of snark and bewilderment, equate to "throwing a fit".

THAT WAS LITERALLY THE GREATEST THING I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE!!! THAT **** WAS CRAZY!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! LET'S GO!!!

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Wait wait wait wait wait...

What in the Hell did Bee just do?!?!

He pulled a Waspinator.

For once the absurdities of Bee's plot armor is actually bothering me even as a fan of these movies like I know some people think Bayformers are like Bionicles but this is ridiculous eh?

Also Quintessa's face disturbs me thanks people who wanted them to look human now we suffer from the uncanny valley.

Hold up, they just showed Megatron fighting Hound. I hope that isn't the end for him.

Hey, that's Hound that Megatron is fighting at around 1:52. Also, that scene at the end with Bumblebee reminds me of the Mk. 42 from Iron Man 3!

I think Cade reconstructs Bee.

That is why they put that hint-line in about Super Powers - and Cade is "The Last Knight" so it may come with super powers.

So that is why he's able to reconstruct Bee in a similar way to how Buster Witwicky does Jetfire.

Speaking of which that would have been useful to have 8 years ago for poor ol' Jetfire - but then he did also disrupt his own spark (unless Jolt kept it in a box for the last 8 years).

But I doubt Bee does that to himself - "Unless" he gets special abilities too (which is hinted at in some promo-material) but I would expect him to get a body upgrade if he does .

Also who or what shot him ?

Sabrblade wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Seriously, like I said KSI created new transformer tech in the last one

Which is still bonkers in and of itself that a mere human company was able to develop a level of scientific engineering that the very race of super robot aliens they based their tech on never even developed in their own evolution.

Randomhero wrote:and by the end of the movie Joshua became allies with Cade and the Autobots.

Though, in any sane world, he'd be going to jail for the robot uprising he put the pieces together for, or at least be neck-deep in dealing with all the serious hits his company would be taking after KSI helped give Galvatron the army he needed to wreck Hong Kong.

Randomhero wrote:We've seen in the other trailers them working Bee in the junkyard. It's not that hard to figure it out that Bumblebee has been upgraded.

If you have to come up with your own personal rationale for it to make sense (in lieu of the film's presently not yet being released, of course), then doesn't it stand to reason that the presentation given as is doesn't make sense on its own since the explanation is coming from yourself rather than the source trailer we're provided with?

Randomhero wrote:Certainly better and throwing a fit over 5 seconds in a 2 minute trailer to a over 2 hour long movie.

Ah, thank you for enlightening me that one having a different opinion from yourself, and pointing out nonsense with elements of snark and bewilderment, equate to "throwing a fit".

A mere human also changed the entire thought of what black holes are in his thesis. His name is Stephen Hawking. Joshua was shown to be a genius that broke down the transformers physiology and "improve it"

We know that from movies 1-3 they didn't share their technology. Once the Alicante was broken KSI started taking them apart and discovering things. That's not that far fetched. Humans have always been changing what's been perceived and creating the impossible. It's not that hard to believe that humanity could change the fundamentals of transformer physiology.

And if you don't believe that well...nebulons and headmasters. It's not an old idea that organic can change transformers to perform better.

RAR wrote:I think Cade reconstructs Bee.

That is why they put that hint-line in about Super Powers - and Cade is "The Last Knight" so it may come with super powers.

So that is why he's able to reconstruct Bee in a similar way to how Buster Witwicky does Jetfire.

Speaking of which that would have been useful to have 8 years ago for poor ol' Jetfire - but then he did also disrupt his own spark (unless Jolt kept it in a box for the last 8 years).

But I doubt Bee does that to himself - "Unless" he gets special abilities too (which is hinted at in some promo-material) but I would expect him to get a body upgrade if he does .

Also who or what shot him ?

Looks like he was tussling Barricade. Or some cops, anyways.

Also... superpowers? Aheh... where uh... where did you make that... hehe... assumption?

RAR wrote:I think Cade reconstructs Bee.

That is why they put that hint-line in about Super Powers - and Cade is "The Last Knight" so it may come with super powers.

So that is why he's able to reconstruct Bee in a similar way to how Buster Witwicky does Jetfire.

Speaking of which that would have been useful to have 8 years ago for poor ol' Jetfire - but then he did also disrupt his own spark (unless Jolt kept it in a box for the last 8 years).

But I doubt Bee does that to himself - "Unless" he gets special abilities too (which is hinted at in some promo-material) but I would expect him to get a body upgrade if he does .

Also who or what shot him ?

I don't think anything shot him. I think he disassembled himself, and then reassembles to catch TRF by surprise.

SlyTF1 wrote:Hold up, they just showed Megatron fighting Hound. I hope that isn't the end for him.

Hot Rod's in that scene too so if it's anything like 1986...

Anyways out of all the returning AOE bots I expect Hound to die since with the decent amounts of time in AOE and his upbeat attitude more of the general audience probably cares about him above say Crosshairs who is a jerk and Drift who is stoic which makes Hound the perfect one to die either in battle or as a sacrificial lion Hound.

Randomhero wrote:A mere human also changed the entire thought of what black holes are in his thesis.

Said "entire thought" was also previously conceived by other of his own race before him, not an advanced alien race whose science far outclassed humanity's by several millennia.

Randomhero wrote:And if you don't believe that well...nebulons and headmasters.

Which was all Brainstorm's doing, telling them what to do and how to do it (going by the cartoon).

I think Bee was shot - thus the line "What was that"... "That was a mistake" and we see him getting shot at and falling over - so I DON'T think it's implied he wasn't falling apart to avoid getting shot. But that he got blown to pieces.


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tffan01 wrote:
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"Listen, I just didn't want to make the boxy characters. It's boring and it would look fake. By adding more doo-dads and stuff on the robots, more car parts, you can just make it more real. I was listening to the fans and I know they hated the Optimus paint job with the stripes. Why did I do it? Because I liked the ribs. That caused a lot of grief."
-Michael Bay

I think Bay got very confused there ; that sentence makes so little sense - I've had results from translating Chinese that made more sense than that.

So if he's saying adding things like moving cogs (what we'd likely call "Mech Alive") stuff is fine a bit fussy looking - but fine.

In some ways though Movie Transformers often have LESS Kibble not more.
sure Ironhide had visible break discs in his shoulders and they tend to retain some car parts around and about a bit - but Optimus now has none at all bar a hint of smokestacks.

Bumblebee is more like a Traditional Transformer in that he retains his door kibble and car hood-chest (pretty much) and also has some visible wheels in his ankles and shoulders.

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I don't think anyone hates Optimus with Stripes - heck even "Evasion mode" Prime still has flames. It is the flames that bug some people sometimes - I don't mind to much as it's not as if Transformers have not had flames on them before.

I'm not sure what he means by Ribs though - does he mean the red panels on 2009's Optimus' abs or the Dark of the Moon change to the belly ?

Or the striping on Western Star Optimus' belly.

I'm confused.

Deadput wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:Hold up, they just showed Megatron fighting Hound. I hope that isn't the end for him.

Hot Rod's in that scene too so if it's anything like 1986...

Anyways out of all the returning AOE bots I expect Hound to die since with the decent amounts of time in AOE and his upbeat attitude more of the general audience probably cares about him above say Crosshairs who is a jerk and Drift who is stoic which makes Hound the perfect one to die either in battle or as a sacrificial lion Hound.

I'm not sure if the sheer amount of new-mold toys Hound is getting is evidence against or for this...

Sabrblade wrote:

Randomhero wrote:A mere human also changed the entire thought of what black holes are in his thesis.

Said "entire thought" was also previously conceived by other of his own race before him, not an advanced alien race whose science far outclassed humanity's by several millennia.

Randomhero wrote:And if you don't believe that well...nebulons and headmasters.

Which was all Brainstorm's doing, telling them what to do and how to do it (going by the cartoon).

And in age of extinction they were dissecting transformers brains. Who knows what they found in them. It doesn't change the fact that it's possible.

Kurona wrote:

Deadput wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:Hold up, they just showed Megatron fighting Hound. I hope that isn't the end for him.

Hot Rod's in that scene too so if it's anything like 1986...

Anyways out of all the returning AOE bots I expect Hound to die since with the decent amounts of time in AOE and his upbeat attitude more of the general audience probably cares about him above say Crosshairs who is a jerk and Drift who is stoic which makes Hound the perfect one to die either in battle or as a sacrificial lion Hound.

I'm not sure if the sheer amount of new-mold toys Hound is getting is evidence against or for this...

Ironhide got plenty of new mold toys in DOTM and look how that treated him.

If there is an AOE Autobot death in this it's going to be emotional and what could be more emotional then killing off the big friendly emotional guy eh?

RAR wrote: but Optimus now has none at all bar a hint of smokestacks.

He also has the doors form his breastplate.

I think Bee's new ability will be explained maybe not in depth but I believe it will be acknowledged they put stuff like this in the trailers to get ya to watch the movie every movie does this.

"You want to know don't you why Bumblebee's a magic boy now...eh?"

william-james88 wrote:

RAR wrote: but Optimus now has none at all bar a hint of smokestacks.

He also has the doors form his breastplate.

And other bits and pieces if your looking for them, the problem is not that there is no kibble on Prime but it's the fact that all his parts bend and warp like liquid metal so basically Transformers Prime and New RID designs in movie form.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Hey, that's Hound that Megatron is fighting at around 1:52. Also, that scene at the end with Bumblebee reminds me of the Mk. 42 from Iron Man 3!

who's the bot in the bottom left in that exact scene??

IAPETUS_PRIME wrote:

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Hey, that's Hound that Megatron is fighting at around 1:52. Also, that scene at the end with Bumblebee reminds me of the Mk. 42 from Iron Man 3!

who's the bot in the bottom left in that exact scene??

It's Hot rod if your talking about the scene where Megatron attacks Hound.

Why didn't JAZZ do that?!!!! I still want JAZZ BACK

So......Bee can put himself back together


so how many people will be doing that to their toy to try to recreate that scene?(mind you...the head, arms & legs will prob be on ball joints anyway)

Stuartmaximus wrote:So......Bee can put himself back together


so how many people will be doing that to their toy to try to recreate that scene?(mind you...the head, arms & legs will prob be on ball joints anyway)

I already did it earlier and was gonna take a photo but then i thought it would be cool if i did it stop motion with him reforming but then i realised that would be hours of tediousness to set up and so i quit.

But yeah I think most people have accidentally pulled off an arm or leg or head from a Transformer whether posing or transforming them or whatever.

BULL-SQUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!