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84everfan wrote:Why would they alter the design of the Maximal Symbol?

That's how it looked on the Kingdom toy packaging.


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84everfan wrote:Why would they alter the design of the Maximal Symbol?

One could ask the same of the 2007 movie and both faction symbols.

Making Rhinox that streamlined in his metal plating results in him looking a more like a Monoceratops. With maybe a bit of Tundro from the Herculoids.

Not complaining, in fact I'm glad they found a design that conveys "Rhinox" while being original enough that it doesn't evoke his Transmetal body or any other past rhino-formers.

Bumblevivisector wrote:Making Rhinox that streamlined in his metal plating results in him looking a more like a Monoceratops. With maybe a bit of Tundro from the Herculoids.

Not complaining, in fact I'm glad they found a design that conveys "Rhinox" while being original enough that it doesn't evoke his Transmetal body or any other past rhino-formers.

I think it's the angle of the head in the picture. It almost makes it look like he has no neck and that the head connects directly to the torso, if that makes sense.

Looking closer, that Cheetor almost has a Beast Machines vibe to it.

FYI, major props for the Herculoids reference. Those were the good ol' days....

at least in beast wars they looked like the other animals. these do not pass for creatures that would blend in.

First-Aid wrote:FYI, major props for the Herculoids reference. Those were the good ol' days....

I only got acquainted with Alex Toth cartoons in '97, right before Toonami started, my last year of high school. Not many action cartoons where the heroes were a nuclear family; only The Bionic 6 and The Secret Saturdays spring to mind.

I guess the Beast Machines resemblance was inevitable when combining Beast Era designs with the sort of details we expect from Bayformers, but again I'm not complaining (oddly enough). The aesthetics were never one of the serious problems I had with the show, and comments on Airrazor's design seemed to agree that's what Silverbolt should've looked like, so maybe they'll all end up being improved versions of some past attempt attempt at techno-organimals.

Besides Cheetor looking a bit like a FNAF character (at least from this angle), these designs look really great. My favorite has to be Rhinox, he looks well designed instead of someone just randomly putting robot parts in the exact shape of an animal. Can’t wait for their figure reveals, they’ll look great next to their Kingdom counterparts.

Hopefully we also get some Terrorcon reveals soon, haven’t been hearing much about them.

griftimus prime wrote:at least in beast wars they looked like the other animals. these do not pass for creatures that would blend in.

No one said anything about blending in, that was never the intention in Beast Wars hence the giant insects and giant rat and dinosaurs roaming around. And in the 5 seasons these characters featured in, only 1 had them in these modes that seemed fully organic, so these designs are paying a more well rounded homage to all designs rather than just the season 1 look.

william-james88 wrote:

griftimus prime wrote:at least in beast wars they looked like the other animals. these do not pass for creatures that would blend in.

No one said anything about blending in, that was never the intention in Beast Wars hence the giant insects and giant rat and dinosaurs roaming around. And in the 5 seasons these characters featured in, only 1 had them in these modes that seemed fully organic, so these designs are paying a more well rounded homage to all designs rather than just the season 1 look.

It's funny to think of it that way, and it's very true. I'm just counting down to when we get a trailer, which I'm guessing will happen around superbowl time.

ZeroWolf wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

griftimus prime wrote:at least in beast wars they looked like the other animals. these do not pass for creatures that would blend in.

No one said anything about blending in, that was never the intention in Beast Wars hence the giant insects and giant rat and dinosaurs roaming around. And in the 5 seasons these characters featured in, only 1 had them in these modes that seemed fully organic, so these designs are paying a more well rounded homage to all designs rather than just the season 1 look.

It's funny to think of it that way, and it's very true. I'm just counting down to when we get a trailer, which I'm guessing will happen around superbowl time.

Yes, february would make sense for a teaser, with a full trailer being closer to 2 months before the movie is out.

ZeroWolf wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

griftimus prime wrote:at least in beast wars they looked like the other animals. these do not pass for creatures that would blend in.

No one said anything about blending in, that was never the intention in Beast Wars hence the giant insects and giant rat and dinosaurs roaming around. And in the 5 seasons these characters featured in, only 1 had them in these modes that seemed fully organic, so these designs are paying a more well rounded homage to all designs rather than just the season 1 look.

It's funny to think of it that way, and it's very true.

Yeah, over the entire history of the Transformers brand, beast modes have rarely, if ever at all, been used for disguise purposes.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

griftimus prime wrote:at least in beast wars they looked like the other animals. these do not pass for creatures that would blend in.

No one said anything about blending in, that was never the intention in Beast Wars hence the giant insects and giant rat and dinosaurs roaming around. And in the 5 seasons these characters featured in, only 1 had them in these modes that seemed fully organic, so these designs are paying a more well rounded homage to all designs rather than just the season 1 look.

It's funny to think of it that way, and it's very true.

Yeah, over the entire history of the Transformers brand, beast modes have rarely, if ever at all, been used for disguise purposes.

That's true. Beast Wars it was a protective mechanism. Beast Machines it was for stealth.

Funny that the animal bots have never been about disguise...

First-Aid wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

griftimus prime wrote:at least in beast wars they looked like the other animals. these do not pass for creatures that would blend in.

No one said anything about blending in, that was never the intention in Beast Wars hence the giant insects and giant rat and dinosaurs roaming around. And in the 5 seasons these characters featured in, only 1 had them in these modes that seemed fully organic, so these designs are paying a more well rounded homage to all designs rather than just the season 1 look.

It's funny to think of it that way, and it's very true.

Yeah, over the entire history of the Transformers brand, beast modes have rarely, if ever at all, been used for disguise purposes.

That's true. Beast Wars it was a protective mechanism. Beast Machines it was for stealth.

Funny that the animal bots have never been about disguise...

It goes all the way back to the Dinobots and Insecticons of G1. They were never in disguise.

Do you guys think there is a chance for any official updates or reveals on the movie before the end of the year?

Sabrblade wrote:

First-Aid wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

griftimus prime wrote:at least in beast wars they looked like the other animals. these do not pass for creatures that would blend in.

No one said anything about blending in, that was never the intention in Beast Wars hence the giant insects and giant rat and dinosaurs roaming around. And in the 5 seasons these characters featured in, only 1 had them in these modes that seemed fully organic, so these designs are paying a more well rounded homage to all designs rather than just the season 1 look.

It's funny to think of it that way, and it's very true.

Yeah, over the entire history of the Transformers brand, beast modes have rarely, if ever at all, been used for disguise purposes.

That's true. Beast Wars it was a protective mechanism. Beast Machines it was for stealth.

Funny that the animal bots have never been about disguise...

It goes all the way back to the Dinobots and Insecticons of G1. They were never in disguise.

If you think about it, NONE of them were in disguise. They always know who each other were except for the humans who were fooled. All the 'bots and 'cons knew each other's modes. Kind of ruins the whole "Robots in Disguise" thing.

First-Aid wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

First-Aid wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

griftimus prime wrote:at least in beast wars they looked like the other animals. these do not pass for creatures that would blend in.

No one said anything about blending in, that was never the intention in Beast Wars hence the giant insects and giant rat and dinosaurs roaming around. And in the 5 seasons these characters featured in, only 1 had them in these modes that seemed fully organic, so these designs are paying a more well rounded homage to all designs rather than just the season 1 look.

It's funny to think of it that way, and it's very true.

Yeah, over the entire history of the Transformers brand, beast modes have rarely, if ever at all, been used for disguise purposes.

That's true. Beast Wars it was a protective mechanism. Beast Machines it was for stealth.

Funny that the animal bots have never been about disguise...

It goes all the way back to the Dinobots and Insecticons of G1. They were never in disguise.

If you think about it, NONE of them were in disguise. They always know who each other were except for the humans who were fooled. All the 'bots and 'cons knew each other's modes. Kind of ruins the whole "Robots in Disguise" thing.

The robots in disguise thing was always from the human perspective, it was a big part of 2015's RID theme. It was also a theme in the Bumblebee movie. But it was never an element in Beast Wars due to the story being either in the distant past or on cybertron.

TulioDude wrote:Do you guys think there is a chance for any official updates or reveals on the movie before the end of the year?

Yes, 100% We have been told the marketing campaign will begin in December.

They look like FNAF animatronics.

Sabrblade wrote:

84everfan wrote:Why would they alter the design of the Maximal Symbol?

That's how it looked on the Kingdom toy packaging.


Transformers War for Cybertron: Kingdom Optimus Primal Gallery

This answers nothing. I don't care who did it first.
W H Y

84everfan wrote:
W H Y

Well,



But seriously, I think it's simply because those beasts shared the same timeline as the standard and . Thus, the "fusion" of the faction symbols.

I don't really mind the new symbol, I mean, it is just that a symbol.

Movie beasts are looking good! I am liking the designs so far, the aesthetic is one that I like and fits with my favorite TF universe. i look forward to some better looks at their designs.

New pictures have been uploaded to Baidu showing the upcoming Rise of the Beasts mainline converting role play mask. This is a mask of Optimus Primal's gorilla mode which transforms into Optimus Primal in robot mode. We had seen it out of the package a good while ago but now that we have it in package, there is new info to take in. Firstly, this mask is not packaged in Cyberverse line but in the Rise of the Beasts mainline packaging. This means that our early info on many ROTB toys being released in Cyberverse has changed. Turns out, only 1 toy was sent to the Cyberverse line so far while Hasbro has held off releasing the rest and will release them in proper Rise of the Beasts packaging. And that's great for us since it means we get to see the movie character models on the box. Here we get to see a new shot of Optimus Primal in his gorilla mode. We see skin and fur, stretched over a mechanical interior.

That mask is still one of the most creative Transformers to come out in recent years.

Lot of Beast Machines in that Primal...Looks good!

The beasts continue to look great, I am looking forward to them in live action!