Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:56 pmSabrblade wrote:The thing that breaks up this whole idea of yours of Drift having been educated by Optimus is the sheer fact that they weren't even using the word in that context. They were using it in the stereotypical Hollywood way of saying "he's Japanese, he has a master, so we'll have him call his master 'Sensei' to further the stereotype!" It was not used in an educational student-teacher sense, it was used in a Samurai-based servant-master sense, which is the predominate sense that Western media has taken to adopt as being correct when it's always been wrong regardless.SlyTF1 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Of which point? (I made several)SlyTF1 wrote:The fact that he calls Optimus "Sensei" is presumption enough.
That Optimus was somewhat of an academic teacher to Drift. I mean, he was originally homeless in the IDW comics, which probably meant he didn't have much of an education. And I'm sure the Decepticons wouldn't take any time out of their conquest to teach him any linguistics or anything of the sort. And I know the movie universe is different, but no one ever said Drift's story had to be any different from that. Until they can show us some of Drift's backstory that contradicts that idea, the notion that Optimus taught actually taught Drift academically is relevant. You can't dismiss it. And don't forget, Optimus was head of Cybertron's science division before the war, so he obviously knows something.
The filmmakers were just going along with the widely known misnomer out of sheer ignorance, because that's what Hollywood does.
Would you have even considered the idea of Optimus being an educator to Drift had I not ever mentioned the movie's incorrect use of the word? If you say "yes", then you're just further trying to find excuses for bad writing by filling in the blanks yourself with information from external media and external concepts that are completely unrelated to the movie in question, which is completely ludicrous.
No, I wouldn't have considered it, because I wouldn't have cared. Just because you think the use of the word is based in ignorance doesn't mean that it is. And there's more than just one use for the word. The word can be used to refer to anyone with with a significant deal of experience, wisdom, or to simply show respect to someone in a position of authority. Even martial arts trainers and teachers.
Opt, and I almost forgot: the Transformers learned Earth's languages through the internet. They aren't taught it. What they read is what they know, and how they chose to structure their words is up to them. They aren't bound by the laws of a certain language structure. They say what they want. They don't have to give a damn if it's accurate or not. And neither do I.
). So are these new movies going to be a reboot of the transformers movies (basically ignoring everything from the Bay movies and starting over?) or are they just continuing the Bayformers movies? Because to me it would be a much wiser choice to start over instead of continuing Bays franchise.