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Bounti76 wrote:This would have been way cooler if it didn't contradict everything in the last four movies. 'Bee and Ironhide active during WW II? I guess those were some other 'bots who came to Earth in the first movie. Megatron active in the late 1880s? Guess that was his twin brother frozen in the ice for thousands of years.

I just hope there's a better explanation than "we're ignoring the previous movies to start our own continuity."

I agree about Ironhide and Megatron (Although for Ironhide's case it is never stated it's their first time on Earth but this is just a loose excuse because it's still stupid)

But Bumblebee was already on Earth for some time before he came to Sam we just have not known how long until now so Bee being there does not break continuity.

I think that the idea fo giant stealth robots interacting with humans could generate thousands of movies itself, without messing around with this "rethink the past" idea, which is a complete reboot.

There is another Steve Jablonsky music clip on Youtube not sure if this was posted before.

That new poster is INCREDIBLE! I'm going to be really disappointed if we don't get a WWII Bumblebee figure.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:That new poster is INCREDIBLE! I'm going to be really disappointed if we don't get a WWII Bumblebee figure.

Maybe that's what "voyager" Bumblebee is from the Amazon listing since he is rather "bulky" here.

Deadput wrote:That's why I think some of these are only for promotional advertising only.

These are for promotional advertising only.

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:That's why I think some of these are only for promotional advertising only.

These are for promotional advertising only.

Exactly. And who even said those are Megatron and Ironhide anyway? They could just share the same mold.

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:That's why I think some of these are only for promotional advertising only.

These are for promotional advertising only.

Agreed although the room with the stuff is in the movie itself since it was in the Imax prview.

I do think the ones with Bee, Hound, Drift, "Bulldog" (Tank guy), Hot Rod and the old knights are actually canon events some of them like Hot Rod are obviously using their obviously non canon at the time modern looks so the general audience can tell who they are.

I can see Hound and Drift being on Earth before the first movie since we don't know when they actually arrived the question is what were they doing I can see Drift being a loner and not participating if he is a former Decepticon like the toy bios state but unless Hound's on some secret missions for Prime I can't see why he never joined up during say ROTF or DOTM.

I remember at the end of the imax event there was a "trailer" that so far has not been released on the net and one of the clips was of Hot Rod also attacking the Nazi's at night although until now I thought that was a scene that took place during the present so it seems that both Bee and Hot Rod were working together for sometime before the two were separated with Bee doing scouting or something and Hot Rod working with The Order of the Witwiccans also since it was a blink or miss it moment I could not tell if Hot Rod had some new military kibble like Bumblebee.

SlyTF1 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:That's why I think some of these are only for promotional advertising only.

These are for promotional advertising only.

Exactly. And who even said those are Megatron and Ironhide anyway? They could just share the same mold.

They look exactly like them though and while Megatron's new look could be inspired by this "other" guy the Ironhide guy has the exact same look with all the kibble that should not exist at the time which is WW1 you can tell with the soldiers as well as sharing the same black color as him.

I don't see people reusing Ironhide's exact look as another character.

I can't believe Ironhide was the Bayverse seeker all along.

It would be interesting to see the Transformers being a part of Earth history, but I think that the concept will get old pretty quick since human history and Cybertronian history intertwining has been a theme since Revenge of the Fallen.

As for me, a Transformers movie taking place entirely on Cybertron with nothing but our favorite robotic characters as the cast is a popcorn movie for me.

Okay, so what if it's a time travel thing to undo the future, AKA Future's Pasting the whole thing? Like, everything that's happened has caught Unicron's attention and they need to go undo a few things by traveling to the past? Or maybe the Decepticons go into the past and ruin stuff, and they have to go back in time to fight back (A Decepticon In King Arthur's Court)?

It's one of the only things that would make sense given all the guys who were protoforms coming to Earth suddenly showing up in the forties.

Meaningless speculative plot that will probably be entirely unlike the movie:

So what if the Allspark was the Matrix of Leadership in this timeline, being the one thing, the only thing to stop Unicron from eating the universe? And, finding out that it's gone, Unicron scoots on over to Earth to have a feast since that seems to be turning into Cybertron Mark II.

So, after the Decepticons find a way to time travel, they figure that if they went back in time to wake Megatron, they could take Earth and the Allspark before the Autobots even caught wind that it even was on Earth to begin with. That way, when they poop on Autobots by establishing a stronghold, they could even use the Energon Harvester and the Allspark-made robots to fight back against Unicron, and after him, the rest of the galaxy.

But, a select few of Autobots catch on and head back in time as well, hijacking the Decepticon's time machine to stop them (likely Bee, Hound and such) and they send word to their past forces that the war has a new battleground, which is why so many Transformers show up in the past, including the ones that are supposed to be dead.

In other words, friggin' Days of Future's Past.

Hopefully.

Things are super convoluted right now.

Kurona wrote:I can't believe Ironhide was the Bayverse seeker all along.

The real Bayverse is the friends we made along the way. And then blew up.

I had been thinking this was all the result of the Transformers in the present being 'time scattered' into the past at some point in the movie and having to make do until they could find their way back to the present (possibly the long way - by waiting) but Ironhide does muck with that idea.

Odd, though, that he's the only deceased model they've used for this promotion. If they were just throwing out things to look cool, without it having any actual bearing on the movie, you'd expect to see more 'retired' animation models with tweaked details.

Though to be fair I suppose a lot of characters' alternate modes are pretty recognizable. Starscream, Blackout/Grindor, Bonecrusher, Barricade, Soundwave, and the Constructicons... they really have pretty recognizable kibble. Brawl and DotM Megatron are about the only ones among the previous Decepticons I could see getting a vintage face-lift - Maybe Galvatron since he didn't really look like anything. And the Autobots are pretty similar; Ratchet and Jazz's chests would need to be altered pretty heavily to make them look like anything other than a Hummer and a Solstice, respectively.

A picture of Jetfire during the Cold War would have been cool, though.

Kurona wrote:I can't believe Ironhide was the Bayverse seeker all along.

He was always a seeker wasn't he?


Anyways Someone must have dug through my computer files since this conveniently kinda resembles a digibash my version of the idea I made a year or two ago they must of borrowed my brilliant talent and ideas!


Just kidding because this was meant to be a G1 version of DOTM Flak even though a g1 Flak already exists but it's kinda funny how much a military Bumblebee works maybe Bee lost his voice to the traumas of war


I can imagine the PTSD already

Deadput wrote:

Kurona wrote:I can't believe Ironhide was the Bayverse seeker all along.

He was always a seeker wasn't he?

... dammit. Kind of want that.

Fellow Seibertronian Deadput has spotted another Steve Jablonsky music clip on YouTube, this time probably the fifth track from the score to the upcoming live-action movie Transformers: The Last Knight. The previous one had disappeared then reappeared, so you way want to listen to this quick before it gets taken down!

#Sideways# wrote:"Post of Ancient Aliens and Time Travel"

It could be time travel maybe Bay and the crew were inspired by the rumors of time travel that like Unicron has been something people keep saying is going to happen since ROTF.

Maybe this "supposed" early draft for TF4 "AOE" had something to do with it? (Still don't know if it was legit or not)

Edit: Can't attach PDF files can someone tell me how I can post the file?

Might also be interesting if they mash together the idea of Unicron with the storyline in IDW where Shockwave tried to stop time. The name "Unicron" is sort of suggestive of a temporal singularity.

I imagine that stopping time, and effectively eliminating the concept of "change", would cost Unicron street cred as a god of "chaos" but I always thought his motivation to consume everything in existence ran contrary to that anyway (Primus seems more like chaos, and Unicron order) and if one considers Unicron's general motives, rewinding the universe back to the beginning of time might actually be more practical than eating literally everything.

...I can already tell I'm gonna love this soundtrack. Steve does not disappoint.

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Va'al wrote:

Yes! Barricade is on my favorite flavor!

Emerje wrote:"Strawberricade"

I would lie if I said I didn't love that WWII Bee. At least we now seem to know why Bay was blowing up a Churchill home with Nazi flags: Bee was doing it. And he looks really good in WWII kibble. I join the group who like the idea of the voyager toy being his WWII self.

And if he and Hot Rod were both active during WWII, it would make a sort of sense. Hot Rod was a protector of Laura Haddock's character and potentially her family before that, so he could have been around a long time. Bee comes to Earth to track the Allspark and Megatron, and is here for a lot longer than we though he was. He and Hot Rod meet up and bond, hence the brotherhood the 2 share. Rod goes back to being a silent guardian while Bee goes on with his mission.

Also, Seibs said months ago this film would feel like much more of a reboot than the 4th film, and I think we are finally seeing that effect. WWII and other versions of characters would be cool though, and Drift actually had some kibble change for his samurai look, so there is that. And since we never got the story of how Hound, Crosshairs, and Drift came to Earth, that can be played with, what with Hound being a barbarian fighter or something, Drift basically creating the Samurai, and IDK Crosshairs could be the inspiration for the trenchcoat and he worked with Sherlock Holmes himself.

I mean, they look ugly, but call them demons..?

('And demons appeared', says the Latin on the left. The one on the right - 'conior' - means nothing, or is a wrong version of 'to try' - which is ironic really, cos it failed.)



And why is Megatron treating Krakatoa like a British firework display?

Va'al wrote:

I mean, they look ugly, but call them demons..?

('And demons appeared', says the Latin on the left. The one on the right - 'conior' - means nothing, or is a wrong version of 'to try' - which is ironic really, cos it failed.)



And why is Megatron treating Krakatoa like a British firework display?

Honestly if we were being attacked by big transformers in real life I'm sure quite a few people would call or think of them as demons.

Plus Demon doesn't have to be literal for example in the Halo games the Master Chief was called Demon by the Covenant both as an insult and as a sign of respect.

Am I right in thinking there's no native American art in any of the promos? Or African?

The collection seems to be confined to western civilizations, aside from the picture of Drift in Japan, and that's a photograph, so it was presumably taken after the intervention of European interests in Japanese culture.