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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Wed May 10, 2017 2:58 pmby Va'al
Deadput wrote:Va'al wrote:
I mean, they look ugly, but call them demons..?
('And demons appeared', says the Latin on the left. The one on the right - 'conior' - means nothing, or is a wrong version of 'to try' - which is ironic really, cos it failed.)
And why is Megatron treating Krakatoa like a British firework display?
Honestly if we were being attacked by big transformers in real life I'm sure quite a few people would call or think of them as demons.
Plus Demon doesn't have to be literal for example in the Halo games the Master Chief was called Demon by the Covenant both as an insult and as a sign of respect.
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Wed May 10, 2017 3:02 pmby Va'al
Caelus wrote:Am I right in thinking there's no native American art in any of the promos? Or African?
The collection seems to be confined to western civilizations, aside from the picture of Drift in Japan, and that's a photograph, so it was presumably taken after the intervention of European interests in Japanese culture.
I was looking for the same thing as I was choosing the images for the story, and you appear to be correct. Other than Krakatoa (in Western accounts) and the pyramids from ROTF, there has been very little contact with US/European civilisations in the story told so far.
China comes in during modern times, and as you point out, Japan may be more during colonial times too.
EDIT: There is one shot of Frederick Douglass, but that's it!
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Wed May 10, 2017 3:04 pmby Prowl4
These movies have done the ridiculous and people are complaining about the bots being involved through history lol.
They've kept the plot guarded but I wouldn't be surprised if excalibur is a cybertronian relic that can either go back in time or if it is a portal device to step through history.
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Wed May 10, 2017 3:04 pmby transformnerd114
Prowl4 wrote: Wheeljack hasn't appeared in the movies.
He "had a roll" in DOTM as Que.
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Wed May 10, 2017 3:10 pmby crazyfist
I wonder if they'll somehow tie in Sam Witwicky's family because there is a newspaper article in the background with Sam's Great-Grandfather Archibald and the photo with Hot Rod, the plaque says 'The Order of the Witwiccans 1901'. Plus, in one of the original teasers, Anthony Hopkins says 'No sacrifice, no victory' to some extent. I wonder if he is related somehow?
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Wed May 10, 2017 3:18 pmby Deadput
Prowl4 wrote:These movies have done the ridiculous and people are complaining about the bots being involved through history lol.
They've kept the plot guarded but I wouldn't be surprised if excalibur is a cybertronian relic that can either go back in time or if it is a portal device to step through history.
Excalibur being a Cybertronian weapon is granted at this point most likely especially with the gun sword from AOE.
I do enjoy the "twist" that Merlin wasn't an actual wizard or used real magic but he had connections with Cybertronians like how Sam Witwicky and Cade Yeager did and that those events were retold as a story or folk tale with magic and other exaggerations.
I wonder if the Lady of the Lake or the sword in the stone will be retold in the movie too I hope so I also like how the movie has a bunch of the different Knights of the Round table including some of the more obscure ones.
I really love the old Knights tales so this Transformer movie is already the best one to me even if they go all retcon on events or reset the movies with time travel.
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Wed May 10, 2017 3:22 pmby Deadput
crazyfist wrote:I wonder if they'll somehow tie in Sam Witwicky's family because there is a newspaper article in the background with Sam's Great-Grandfather Archibald and the photo with Hot Rod, the plaque says 'The Order of the Witwiccans 1901'. Plus, in one of the original teasers, Anthony Hopkins says 'No sacrifice, no victory' to some extent. I wonder if he is related somehow?
In the imax preview event that some people including myself saw when Cade, Bee and Cogman arrive at Hopkin's castle Hopkin's character states that he recognizes Bumblebee from when he was a kid.
So chances are that he is a relative to the Witwicky family or more likely the Witwickys split off from the Witwiccans at some point maybe by someone who no longer wanted to be part of the order but that last bit is just speculation and guessing on my part.
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Wed May 10, 2017 3:24 pmby cruizerdave
Transformers have a secret link to Earth's past? What a creative idea. I've never seen that before.
Unless you count the previous four Bayformers movies.
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Wed May 10, 2017 3:34 pmby Deadput
cruizerdave wrote:Transformers have a secret link to Earth's past? What a creative idea. I've never seen that before.
Unless you count the previous four Bayformers movies.
And G1 as well as every Transformer show ever.
Really besides the Transformers themselves Cybertron having connections to Earth is one of the staples on the franchise.
It's not the concept of the idea it's what one does with that idea that makes or breaks it.
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Wed May 10, 2017 3:45 pmby SureShot18
Gotta say, I really dig the idea of Transformers being present throughout human history. As long as it's not through time travel. Of course, the whole idea is a little ridiculous but I just like it.
And if the Bumblebee spinoff isn't about him killing Nazis during World War II I will be very disappointed.
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Wed May 10, 2017 4:21 pmby Rodimus Prime
Has it been said how long TLK will be? AoE was almost 3 hours. I hope they trim this one down to around 2 hours to 2 hours 15 minutes.
Also, considering Bumblebee is getting his own movie, I would love to see Megatron get his own movie as well, showing how he went from a gladiator to the Decepticon leader. I realize that Bumblebee is getting his own movie just so Hasbro can sell toys, and that the story of Megatron is available in the comics, but it would be neat to see it in live action form, even if it was straight-to-DVD.
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Wed May 10, 2017 5:41 pmby Sabrblade
SlyTF1 wrote:This is the first time I've been impressed by something related to Bumblebee. Actually, it might be the second time, but I forgot what the first time was.
Just Movie Bumblebee specifically, or Bumblebee in general?
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Wed May 10, 2017 7:48 pmby SlyTF1
Rodimus Prime wrote:Has it been said how long TLK will be? AoE was almost 3 hours. I hope they trim this one down to around 2 hours to 2 hours 15 minutes.
I hope it's at LEAST 3 and a half hours. Bigger is always better.
Sabrblade wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:This is the first time I've been impressed by something related to Bumblebee. Actually, it might be the second time, but I forgot what the first time was.
Just Movie Bumblebee specifically, or Bumblebee in general?
Mainly movie Bumblebee. But I've never cared about any other Bumblebee either, so I'll say Bumblebee in general.
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Wed May 10, 2017 7:58 pmby Deadput
SlyTF1 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Has it been said how long TLK will be? AoE was almost 3 hours. I hope they trim this one down to around 2 hours to 2 hours 15 minutes.
I hope it's at LEAST 3 and a half hours. Bigger is always better.
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Cheesus Crust no most people can't handle movies that long.
At that point make it a two parter like Harry Potter and Hunger Games.
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Wed May 10, 2017 8:20 pmby Sabrblade
SlyTF1 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:This is the first time I've been impressed by something related to Bumblebee. Actually, it might be the second time, but I forgot what the first time was.
Just Movie Bumblebee specifically, or Bumblebee in general?
Mainly movie Bumblebee. But I've never cared about any other Bumblebee either, so I'll say Bumblebee in general.
What about when Prime Bumblebee impaled Megatron through the chest with the Star Saber in the final Prime episode?
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Wed May 10, 2017 8:46 pmby Deadput
Sabrblade wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:This is the first time I've been impressed by something related to Bumblebee. Actually, it might be the second time, but I forgot what the first time was.
Just Movie Bumblebee specifically, or Bumblebee in general?
Mainly movie Bumblebee. But I've never cared about any other Bumblebee either, so I'll say Bumblebee in general.
What about when Prime Bumblebee impaled Megatron through the chest with the Star Saber in the final Prime episode?
Who's impressed by someone taking down the least intimidating and intelligent Megatron in a North American tv show?
Even Raf could of killed him since that Megatron was pathetic in fact he never had any real plans until they came to him literately.
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Wed May 10, 2017 9:06 pmby Ultra Markus
so does this movie negate everything the first movie was about becuase we saw them come to earth in a meteor like form and we see them as there cybertronian pre earth form like they just arrived
this movie stating they have been here forever
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Wed May 10, 2017 9:10 pmby Deadput
Ultra Markus wrote:so does this movie negate everything the first movie was about becuase we saw them come to earth in a meteor like form and we see them as there cybertronian pre earth form like they just arrived
this movie stating they have been here forever
They don't literately mean all the Autobots have been here forever their referring that Cybertronians as a species have.
They probably also mean "forever" loosely but ROTF has already astablished that the Transformers have been here for a long long time.
But really we should stop coming to conclusions and wait for the movie since stuff like this is to get us thinking and make us want to watch the movie to find out.
Edit: I remember now that DOTM shows that Soundwave and Laserbeak (Presumably Ravage too) have been on Earth for awhile at least long enough that they got Dylan Gould's dad to shut the space race projects down.
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Wed May 10, 2017 9:26 pmby SlyTF1
Sabrblade wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:This is the first time I've been impressed by something related to Bumblebee. Actually, it might be the second time, but I forgot what the first time was.
Just Movie Bumblebee specifically, or Bumblebee in general?
Mainly movie Bumblebee. But I've never cared about any other Bumblebee either, so I'll say Bumblebee in general.
What about when Prime Bumblebee impaled Megatron through the chest with the Star Saber in the final Prime episode?
I thought that was the stupidest **** I had ever seen in my entire life. I was ready to throw a remote at the TV.
Deadput wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Has it been said how long TLK will be? AoE was almost 3 hours. I hope they trim this one down to around 2 hours to 2 hours 15 minutes.
I hope it's at LEAST 3 and a half hours. Bigger is always better.
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Cheesus Crust no most people can't handle movies that long.
At that point make it a two parter like Harry Potter and Hunger Games.
I'm not "most people."
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Wed May 10, 2017 9:37 pmby Deadput
SlyTF1 wrote: I thought that was the stupidest **** I had ever seen in my entire life. I was ready to throw a remote at the TV.
Your entire life? It's a tv show man no reason to get angry being disappointed is fine but wanting to destroy personal objects because of a show's outcome is not exactly something anyone should do.
SlyTF1 wrote:I'm not "most people."
Yeah but most people is most people and therefore outnumber a vocal minority, one of the biggest complaints in AOE was that it was too long and I want to show my family something they can stay awake to since if it's longer then two hours they fall asleep like My mum fell asleep during Rogue one for example.
Remember what Sentinel said "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"
This is a example of a thing people should not take fans advice on because fact is fans don't know exactly what they want from a movie and even if the filmmakers did there's too many different opinions to make every one satisfied which is why filmmakers go the simpler routes for movies.
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Wed May 10, 2017 10:43 pmby SlyTF1
Deadput wrote:SlyTF1 wrote: I thought that was the stupidest **** I had ever seen in my entire life. I was ready to throw a remote at the TV.
Your entire life? It's a tv show man no reason to get angry being disappointed is fine but wanting to destroy personal objects because of a show's outcome is not exactly something anyone should do.
I've destroyed plenty of things for much less.
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Wed May 10, 2017 11:09 pmby Deadput
SlyTF1 wrote:
I've destroyed plenty of things for much less.
Of course you have Sly.
Don't stop being you pal.
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Thu May 11, 2017 4:08 amby Kurona
Deadput wrote:
Remember what Sentinel said "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"
Isn't that what he said right before he revealed he was the bad guy and killed Ironhide?
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Thu May 11, 2017 5:28 amby EvasionModeBumblebee
Kurona wrote:Deadput wrote:
Remember what Sentinel said "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"
Isn't that what he said right before he revealed he was the bad guy and killed Ironhide?
Nope, he said that right before activating the space bridge pillars in Chicago. His line before killing Ironhide was "For the sake of our planet's survival, a deal had to be made. . . With Megatron."
I just rewatched DOTM yesterday, so it's fresh in my mind xD
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Thu May 11, 2017 8:39 amby Barricade.it
We exactly know when Optimus, Ironhide, Ratchet and Jazz came on Earth: it's shown on the first movie.
We also know how Megatron came on Earth: it's in the first movie too.
So, We must admit that this is a reboot, a very inconsistent reboot. And it's inconsistent not only with the first trilogy, but even with the last movie: the link between AoE and TLK seeme to be very forced.
No link and no consistency with the first trilogy at all.