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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:16 pm
by blackeyedprime
The appliance war scene sounds like a bad throw back to levels of Baynus :( might be picking this up at some point tho.

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:51 pm
by AllNewSuperRobot
When was Arcee ever a Spider? :???:

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:00 pm
by TrypticonCarne
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:When was Arcee ever a Spider? :???:

Botcon comics

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:01 pm
by AllNewSuperRobot
TrypticonCarne wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:When was Arcee ever a Spider? :???:

Botcon comics



Oh, ok. So nothing canon, that I missed. Thanks ;)^

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:06 pm
by TrypticonCarne
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
TrypticonCarne wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:When was Arcee ever a Spider? :???:

Botcon comics



Oh, ok. So nothing canon, that I missed. Thanks ;)^

It's canon to them,

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:58 pm
by Seibertron
TrypticonCarne wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
TrypticonCarne wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:When was Arcee ever a Spider? :???:

Botcon comics



Oh, ok. So nothing canon, that I missed. Thanks ;)^

It's canon to them,


She's a Beast Wars Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia repaint from BotCon 2001

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Transformers BotCon Exclusives Arcee Gallery

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Transformers BotCon Exclusives Arcee Gallery

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Transformers BotCon Exclusives Arcee Gallery

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:08 pm
by TrypticonCarne
Seibertron wrote:
TrypticonCarne wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
TrypticonCarne wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:When was Arcee ever a Spider? :???:

Botcon comics



Oh, ok. So nothing canon, that I missed. Thanks ;)^

It's canon to them,


She's a Beast Wars Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia repaint from BotCon 2001

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Transformers BotCon Exclusives Arcee Gallery

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Transformers BotCon Exclusives Arcee Gallery

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Transformers BotCon Exclusives Arcee Gallery
no...no...just got that voice clip out of my head

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:11 pm
by Nexus Knight
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
TrypticonCarne wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:When was Arcee ever a Spider? :???:

Botcon comics



Oh, ok. So nothing canon, that I missed. Thanks ;)^


Well, doesn't have to be part of your personal canon. But as clearly stated, the FubPub and 3H comics are canon to the Transformers mythos.

Also want to point out, that the T2 spider Arcee (I'm assuming she's a T2, seeing as she's redecoed off a T2 toy) was the very first Arcee toy to have a transformation gimmick.

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:13 pm
by william-james88
TrypticonCarne wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
TrypticonCarne wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:When was Arcee ever a Spider? :???:

Botcon comics



Oh, ok. So nothing canon, that I missed. Thanks ;)^

It's canon to them,

Transformers have a canon?

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:55 pm
by TrypticonCarne
william-james88 wrote:
TrypticonCarne wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
TrypticonCarne wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:When was Arcee ever a Spider? :???:

Botcon comics



Oh, ok. So nothing canon, that I missed. Thanks ;)^

It's canon to them,

Transformers have a canon?

Megatron does
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:01 am
by noctorro
TulioDude wrote:Wow,those look nice

Does this bonus bit confirms if Blitzwing body type is the same as the seekers?

noctorro wrote:
For the Bayhem fans and Bumblebee dislikers. You people have 5 movies, don't be selfish and want the next one to be a Bayformers again. At least break try to break even with 5 decent to good Bumblebee like movies before you Bayform again.



You talk like people can't enjoy both the films that came before and this one.


You can, I enjoy Dark of the moon a lot, and some fight scenes in the other movies. I just read a few comments on they NEED another Bayformers and Bumblebee was so boring. And they really don't want a Bumblebee sequel.

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:03 am
by AllNewSuperRobot
william-james88 wrote:
TrypticonCarne wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
TrypticonCarne wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:When was Arcee ever a Spider? :???:

Botcon comics



Oh, ok. So nothing canon, that I missed. Thanks ;)^

It's canon to them,

Transformers have a canon?


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;)

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:11 am
by AllNewSuperRobot
Nexus Knight wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
TrypticonCarne wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:When was Arcee ever a Spider? :???:

Botcon comics



Oh, ok. So nothing canon, that I missed. Thanks ;)^


Well, doesn't have to be part of your personal canon. But as clearly stated, the FubPub and 3H comics are canon to the Transformers mythos.


Redundant links aside, I'm talking about canon from the perspective of a mainstream line. Be that a cartoon, film, video game or high profile comic book publisher, such as Marvel, Dreamwave or IDW. Anything else is just a novelty wiki page and/or con-exclusive repainted oddity.

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:27 am
by Sabrblade
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Nexus Knight wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
TrypticonCarne wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:When was Arcee ever a Spider? :???:

Botcon comics



Oh, ok. So nothing canon, that I missed. Thanks ;)^


Well, doesn't have to be part of your personal canon. But as clearly stated, the FubPub and 3H comics are canon to the Transformers mythos.


Redundant links aside, I'm talking about canon from the perspective of a mainstream line. Be that a cartoon, film, video game or high profile comic book publisher, such as Marvel, Dreamwave or IDW. Anything else is just a novelty wiki page and/or con-exclusive repainted oddity.
At the time they were released, 3H's media was viewed by the fandom as being on the same level as anything else, since there were no other Beast Wars or Beast Machines comic series out at the time. Fans were starving for more Transformers comics and 3H was the only option that gave people exactly that, for better or for worse.

And all of their published material (once each piece's physical copies had sold out) was eventually put online for all fans to experience, with the exception of those that hadn't sold out prior to the company's losing the brand license to Fun Pub. As such, everything they released from 1997-2002 made it online for all to see, and is still accessible to this day.

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:28 am
by william-james88
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Nexus Knight wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
TrypticonCarne wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:When was Arcee ever a Spider? :???:

Botcon comics



Oh, ok. So nothing canon, that I missed. Thanks ;)^


Well, doesn't have to be part of your personal canon. But as clearly stated, the FubPub and 3H comics are canon to the Transformers mythos.


Redundant links aside, I'm talking about canon from the perspective of a mainstream line. Be that a cartoon, film, video game or high profile comic book publisher, such as Marvel, Dreamwave or IDW. Anything else is just a novelty wiki page and/or con-exclusive repainted oddity.


I see. From my perspective though, since Transformers is initially a brand about a toyline, I always felt the fiction (while a great element to it and what made this brand last) to be secondary. That is of course no longer the case, due to the films, but its how I see the brand when I break it down to its essential. So to me, there isnt really a transformer canon (aside from colour schemes haha)

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:41 am
by AllNewSuperRobot
This reminds me of what I've said for years with Beast Wars. Wherein everything applicable only exists via the toys and the cartoon, given the lack of alternative media. The stance I took was that if it didn't happen/wasn't said directly in the show, it was irrelevant. The G2 "links" people discuss, concerning the Swarm and other such things, as it was never spoken in the show, it is fan fiction and non-canon. People that debate this I've asked them to show me the episode where it is addressed. It doesn't exist, which proves the point.

Just like how Furman wasted the opportunity presented with the The Ascending on some weird one-dimensional Rampage redeco, my curiosity sated, I now know Acree was never a spider in any cartoon, film or any of the mainstream examples I gave above, so I don't care beyond that.

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:52 am
by Sabrblade
AllNewSuperRobot wrote: I now know Acree was never a spider in any cartoon, film or any of the mainstream examples I gave above,
Right, just in her first Hasbro-produced transforming toy ever made, complete with Susan Blu's voice in a voice box accessory.

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:00 am
by AllNewSuperRobot
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Which would have meant more, if the design were being used in a show. Plus being something more unique than just a Blackarachnia redeco.

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:07 am
by Sabrblade
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Which would have meant more, if the design were being used in a show. Plus being something more unique than just a Blackarachnia redeco.
Heh, they had to practically beg Hasbro to let them make the toy, since it was the first time a new toy of a major G1 character who'd never gotten a full toy before (let alone Arcee) would be getting one in the 21st Century, and that was a practice that simply wasn't done at the time. Just the fact that it got made was a miracle, since there was no way on God's green Earth back then that Hasbro would have produced an all new mold for something that wasn't directly a part of Beast Machines. G1 was dead to them back then, and 3H was only allowed to use preexisting molds for everything they did, so they simply made Arcee as Beast Wars Arcee, just like how Hasbro had made the anomalous one-off that was Beast Wars Grimlock four years earlier.

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:10 am
by AllNewSuperRobot
Sabrblade wrote: G1 was dead to them back then



It's a shame that didn't last. Now thanks to the "evergreen" mandate, the opposite is true and creativity has been thrown out the window.

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:12 am
by Sabrblade
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote: G1 was dead to them back then



It's a shame that didn't last. Now thanks to the "evergreen" mandate, the opposite is true and creativity has been thrown out the window.
Twas a very different brand team in charge at the time, too.

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:16 am
by AllNewSuperRobot
Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote: G1 was dead to them back then



It's a shame that didn't last. Now thanks to the "evergreen" mandate, the opposite is true and creativity has been thrown out the window.
Twas a very different brand team in charge at the time, too.



True. Such a pity :(

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:31 am
by Black Hat
For real, I kinda want Arcee to turn into an Alfa Romeo Spyder of some description when she appears on Earth, just as a subtle nod to the afforementioned BotCon toy/poorly copypasted alt mode info. :lol:

Also...
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Man, Shockwave got THICC.

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:33 am
by AllNewSuperRobot
He does seem in need of a gym membership... :lol:

Also strange to reference his Hearts of Steel altmode, yet no one else's?? :???:

Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:48 am
by Sabrblade
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Also strange to reference his Hearts of Steel altmode, yet no one else's?? :???:
That's cuz they just copy/pasted from here.
Alternate modes Cybertronian Laser Gun, Mazda RX-8, steam-powered warship