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Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:25 pm**

fenrir72 wrote:Proof in the pie is in the eating! I must say, despite despising the Bayverse franchise(most especially the toys! They suck!), the first movie was arguably the BEST. This "prequel" hopefully puts to a close to the last 4 with a bang(a good one at that)!

I will never understand why you people think TF1 was "the BEST." There was like 10 minutes of Transformers screen time versus 110 minutes of human nonsense. Most of which had nothing to do with the overall story. Optimus Prime was a cowardly douchebag. Ironhide was a wannabe murderer. Ratchet a bumbling fool. Megatron didn't know how to land. Starscream was, who even knows what he was. Sam was just plain weird (though to be fair, his parents were even weirder). Agent Simmons a complete freak. Sector Seven really played no role in the outcome. Bumblebee and Barricade were the only interesting bots (the chase scene was badass). And Mikaela the only interesting human.

ROTF rectified all that. All the characterizations were spot on. Sam, Mikeala and Simmons actually served a purpose. Sam's death/resurrection scene still chokes me up. Bee/Rampage fight: awesome. And the forest battle: epic. Ignore the slapstick twins, and it was damn near perfect.

Then came DOTM and the franchise pretty much went off the rails. But at least it was visually interesting, unlike the first movie.

But back on topic: Bumblebee does look awesome in pretty much every way. Then again, I said the same thing about The Last Jedi.

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:44 pm**

This Starscream is exactly what I had envisioned for the original live action movies. Its got the techno-wow of the bay movies and the nods to G1 - to which I feel is a happy and comfortable mix of the two ideas. Now just lets get rid of bee and make it a Starscream movie instead

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:13 pm**

hausjam wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
ROTF rectified all that. All the characterizations were spot on. Sam, Mikeala and Simmons actually served a purpose. Sam's death/resurrection scene still chokes me up. Bee/Rampage fight: awesome. And the forest battle: epic. Ignore the slapstick twins, and it was damn near perfect.

I lost track but wasn't ROTF where all the Autobots became mass murderers of decepticons, and Megatron is the Fallens lackey (yet he won't bow to Unicron...). Pretty sure the Bumblebee movie can raise some standards (unless he goes back to lubricating on humans but hey that's not the lowest point of any of the bay films by far)

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:47 pm**

At least the prequel comics explained away most of the plot holes from rotf, plus the writer's strike certainly didn't help things

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:08 pm**

I really hope this doesn't turn out to be another kid-friendly, "superhero movie" -esque, pander-thon like the Pacific Rim sequel was. What I liked most about the bayverse is that it had real concepts in it such as death, war, betrayal, and how all of that can change a person/'bot.

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:31 pm**

The Bumblebee movie train has left the station, and we're going to start getting more and more media coverage in the coming months from now on - starting with this Entertainment Tonight short clip behind the scenes, with cast members Hailee Steinfeld, Jorge Lendenborg Jr and John Cena sharing some of their thoughts on the Transformers spin-off movie.

One tidbit we get in particular is the creation of eight versions of the 1967 VW Bug that Bumblebee turns into in the movie, and not really much else in terms of movie trivia or information. Still, take a look below, and share your thoughts in the Energon Pub!

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:45 pm**

now that the trailer was released, the marketing is gonna slowly pick up its pace

CANT WAIT

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:35 pm**

I have nothing but loathing hatred for the Bayverse movies, toys, etc.. But this, I will take my boys to, as this is an actual transforming robot that makes sense and looks like a robot (and one made from a car). Plus it's kids friendly.

Posted: **Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:19 am**

Well I finally saw the trailer to Bumblebee and all I can say is too little too late. I don't care or like this TF Universe and frankly I wish Hasbro would have blown this one up and kept the superior IDW comics universe, but the morons who hate smart and intelligent stories that challenge them instead want a bunch of stupid fights that have no meaning got their backwards and fanservice way and I hope they choke on it.

Posted: **Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:01 am**

Cyberstrike wrote:Well I finally saw the trailer to Bumblebee and all I can say is too little too late. I don't care or like this TF Universe and frankly I wish Hasbro would have blown this one up and kept the superior IDW comics universe, but the morons who hate smart and intelligent stories that challenge them instead want a bunch of stupid fights that have no meaning got their backwards and fanservice way and I hope they choke on it.

Yes, because what everyone wants on the big screen is Mpreg Scorponok, annoying transsexual gay robots and Bruticus' torso being in love with his right hand. >:oP

Besides, this isn't going to be part of the "Bayverse" technically anyway- unless I'm mistaken this is a reboot of the series. Different story, different cast, different director, different everything. And unless the trailer is incredibly misleading (which I doubt given the very different approach compared to, say, The Last Knight) it should be a really, really good movie.

Posted: **Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:57 am**

Actually it's supposed to still be a prequel to the bay movies but I can see hasbro being very clever with it, if it does well of course, and use it to reboot the film franchise.

Also the idw verse ending and this have absolutely nothing to do with each other so saying that this one should have ended while the other lived is pretty pointless and an empty gesture of frustration. I am sad as well that the very very good idw verse is ending but I'm also more than willing to give this a chance.

Posted: **Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:00 pm**

Black Hat wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:Well I finally saw the trailer to Bumblebee and all I can say is too little too late. I don't care or like this TF Universe and frankly I wish Hasbro would have blown this one up and kept the superior IDW comics universe, but the morons who hate smart and intelligent stories that challenge them instead want a bunch of stupid fights that have no meaning got their backwards and fanservice way and I hope they choke on it.

Yes, because what everyone wants on the big screen is Mpreg Scorponok, annoying transsexual gay robots and Bruticus' torso being in love with his right hand.

Besides, this isn't going to be part of the "Bayverse" technically anyway- unless I'm mistaken this is a reboot of the series. Different story, different cast, different director, different everything. And unless the trailer is incredibly misleading (which I doubt given the very different approach compared to, say, The Last Knight) it should be a really, really good movie.

Repeat after me: I DON'T CARE ABOUT THIS MOVIE! This movie has a lot of things that like but after 5 films I am sick and tied of live action Transformers movies. PERIOD.
They could make a live action film with G1 character designs and any or all the still living voice actors from the cartoon show and I still wouldn't care, because I'm sick of the whole f***ing live action movies and everything that is a part of it.

Also Bumblebee looks and sounds like an awful lot of fanservice and I don't want the Transformers version of Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens.

If Hasbro and Paramount want make me happy then give this version of the Transformers a break for about 5 years. I can't miss it if never goes away and this version of The Transformers needs to go away.

Posted: **Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:20 pm**

I just came here to post this

Posted: **Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:25 am**

Darth-Badguy wrote:I just came here to post this

The Shape of Lubricant.

Posted: **Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:13 am**

Va'al wrote:
Darth-Badguy wrote:I just came here to post this

The Shape of Lubricant.

Posted: **Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:36 am**

So there are rumoured to be just the four robots in this movie: Bee, Starscream, Barricade, and....? Any suggestions? Prime?

Posted: **Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:01 am**

RotorstormNZ wrote:So there are rumoured to be just the four robots in this movie: Bee, Starscream, Barricade, and....? Any suggestions? Prime?

Prime is confirmed to be in the film, yes.

Posted: **Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:39 am**

There are now two new rumors regarding the identities of the red car and the jet that looks a lot like a Movie-ized G1 Starscream:

https://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/142801-bumblebee-movie-discussion-in-theaters-21-december-2018/page-25#entry3743218

A fellow that saw a test screening of the film had a couple of things to say about the Decepticon cast- take a grain of salt since nobody knows if it's true, but he does seem legit and isn't a random member from the other board or has a history of bullshitting.

The jet is not Starscream, he doesn't know what the name is as the cut had temp tracks and no names for all of the Decepticons, but the guy is more
of a thug with a deep voice than a classic Starscream personality.

The red car is female and she's the leader figure of the cons, the one that leads the mission and wants to get it actualy done.

Blue car (he thinks its MIGHT be Barricade. some details line up, but again, no names in that cut, sometimes their voices would change too so it's clear even the voice tracks are temporary) is bored of Earth and just wants to kill everything so they can leave.

By "other board", he means TFW2005.

https://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/142801-bumblebee-movie-discussion-in-theaters-21-december-2018/page-25#entry3743234

Like the guy said, no final names or voice tracks in the film, but just the way the jet-guy acted didn't strike him as Starscreamy. Pretty much all dialogue is thug-like trash-talking and overall brutish demeanor. There was no traditional Starscream qualities, and he was clearly fine with following orders from the red car boss.

https://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/142801-bumblebee-movie-discussion-in-theaters-21-december-2018/page-27#entry3743399

Guy has been around since 2006 and has no previous attempts at bullshitting for attention, but yeah, a random claim is a random claim, gotta take it with salt.

He was pretty detailed on his description of the villains, so we'll find out if he was lying as soon as the toys start popping up anyway.

And, something may or may not support one of these rumors, Charlie Adler (who voiced Starscream in the first three films) has Tweeted that he will not be voicing Starscream in this movie:

@charlie_adler are you doing starscream in the new @bumblebeemovie
Sadly no . But I’m sure whoever is doing it is wonderful ! It’s been a wonderful franchise for me for a long time and now some else’s turn !! Break a leg !

Posted: **Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:09 pm**

Paramount provided us with a new video earlier this evening that features Bumblebee director Travis Knight talking about Bumblebee, as well as a few thoughts from Hailee Steinfeld and John Cena. Check out what Paramount has to say below as well as the video from Paramount on Seibertron.com's YouTube Channel.

Paramount Pictures wrote:EVERY ADVENTURE HAS A BEGINNING.

GET A BEHIND-THE-SCENES LOOK AT DIRECTOR TRAVIS KNIGHT'S VISION FOR BUMBLEBEE IN A NEW FEATURETTE AVAILABLE NOW!

Academy Award®-nominated filmmaker Travis Knight brings his expertise in the world of stop-motion animation to Transformers with Bumblebee. By combining meticulous craft skills with cutting edge technology, Travis showcases his ability to develop characters and inspire emotions through a unique storytelling vision that brings fan favorite Bumblebee to life.

Paramount Pictures wrote:With an artful balance of humor and heart, director Travis Knight brings a new perspective to the Transformers universe in Bumblebee. Watch now to get a behind-the-scenes look at the film, starring Hailee Steinfeld and John Cena, and don't miss #BumblebeeMovie in theatres this Christmas.

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In Theatres December 21st, 2018

DIRECTED BY: Travis Knight

PRODUCED BY: Lorenzo di Bonaventura, Tom DeSanto & Don Murphy, Michael Bay

EXECUTIVE PRODUCED BY: Steven Spielberg, Brian Goldner, Mark Vahradian, Chris Brigham

STARRING: Hailee Steinfeld, John Cena, Jorge Lendeborg Jr., John Ortiz, Jason Drucker, Pamela Adlon, Stephen Schneider

Posted: **Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:23 pm**

Just watching that Seeker transform again, and it struck me (like it did when I first saw the trailer).....I just instinctually think he's Ramjet, not Starscream. *shrug*

Either way, I'm really looking forward to this movie. :DANCE:

Posted: **Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:28 pm**

Who else is getting a kind and warm vibe from this Bumblebee movie and setting?

I'm so ready for that.

I actually get the feeling this should've been Transformers 1 that kicks off the live action movies.

Anyway, I'm positive and hopefull. Give me a decent movie with my favorite universe characters in it and I'll be super happy.

Don't get me wrong the previous had some great and intense scenes, but it was thin spread and inconsistent. It even shot it's good parts in the foot most of the time with other scenes.

Posted: **Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:33 am**

Also from the Paramount Transformers Bumblebee Movie universe, we now move to Barcelona, Spain, and the Centre de Convencions Internacional where CineEurope 2018 is taking place - and thanks to a number of Instagram users attending the event, we get a look at the promotional banner and the cardboard Bumblebee photo op character used to promote the movie at the centre!

You can check them out below, and then head to the Energon Pub discussion thread, where fellow Seibertronian Sabrblade has rounded up some current speculation about the movie, including rumours about Starscream, and the possible Decepticon appearances in the story.

Posted: **Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:13 am**

Regarding the rumours for the movie cons, until a name is announced, it can be anything. I dont think personality has anything to do with it.

Posted: **Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:49 am**

Trailer music:

I like it!

Posted: **Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:41 pm**

william-james88 wrote:
thedistinctroom wrote:I'm trying to wrap my head around this... So, it's a prequel to the Bay-Verse movies... Yet, it's also the reboot of a completely separate new movie series?

So... Isn't this still a Bay-Verse movie then? Hmmmm.

Depends how you define a bay verse movie. If it stands on its own, independent of the rest, with characters looking almost nothing like they appear in other films, and with limited explosions (as it seems to be the case), is it still a Bay-Verse movie?

At this point its baiscally the same as saying that the FOC/WFC games takes place in the same universe as the recent RID TV show.

I totally understand what you mean here. Makes a lot of sense. Thanks, man.

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