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Re: Discussion on Next Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:09 pm
by william-james88
Randomhero wrote:
leokearon wrote:If they do a animated Cybertron movie it won't have to be in any continuity


That just means it will be all CGI. Something Knight said wanted to make a month ago as a prequel to bumblebee about the war before he decided he wanted to focus on smaller stuff

Also, this film has been in the works since last year https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... vie/39165/

And it was then already confirmed to be definitely part of the Paramount/Hasbro cinematic universe (just as much as Bumblebee is)

Re: Discussion on Next Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:53 pm
by Deadput
You know there is a way to some what creatively get a few of Optimus Prime's backstories in one film/story.

Put in most of them! (Yeah I probably lost a few people with that)

Some people go through different jobs in life, the OP movie could partially deal with Optimus trying to find his place in the world prior to becoming the Autobot leader. (And maybe a Prime along the way if were going with the Prime is a rank thing.)

He could start off in life as lowly repair technician like TFA (Probably not something as grand as space bridges), later getting the attention of Alpha Trion who hires him to be a data archiver like TFP, however later on he gains the desire for adventure and glory whether that's inspiration from Megatron or a personal desire (Op doesn't have to be perfect prior to becoming Prime since this is a "heroes journey" type movie) and joins up with some sort of police force or Elite Guard as a cadet like IDW and I guess TFA to an extent, his heroics in the line of duty gets him noticed by the current council or Prime which leads to him getting the official Prime title or a high position which leads to jealousy from Megatron which leads to them to officially break their partner ship, afterwards on Prime has to lie low which he does by becoming a dock worker before being eventually found.


Also had this idea for a Knights of the Round table inspired council of Prime's which would be a group of 13 who are inspired by the legend of the 13 (No actual proof if they actually exist or not in the movie), with different Primes, some being ones we know like Sentinel Prime, Zeta Prime, Star Saber Prime and Nova Prime or some of the Cybertron guys like Override with some new guys like Steelbane Prime (Yes inspired by that TLK toy), a Constructicon Prime and maybe some minor characters who visually take from some of the different Optimus's like RId2001 or Armada.

Optimus would be the newest member and replacing a recently killed member which could either be someone he never met or maybe his mentor Prime like Sentinel or something.

And not every single member would be dead by the time the war starts like say Star Saber who gives up his title to lead an Autobot fleet in space or Override becoming a high ranked soldier.


Anyways I think an Optimus Prime film should not also be the Cybertron war film, I would say leave the War for it's own film besides the start of it and a notable battle or two that way the war can get the screen time it deserves as well as focus on a different cast.

Re: Discussion on Next Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:02 pm
by o.supreme
william-james88 wrote:Also, this film has been in the works since last year https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... vie/39165/

And it was then already confirmed to be definitely part of the Paramount/Hasbro cinematic universe (just as much as Bumblebee is)


This is exactly what I was referring to in my last post which got buried as the last post of the previous page. Thanks for finding the link ;)^

Re: Discussion on Next Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:15 pm
by ZeroWolf
Deadput wrote:You know there is a way to some what creatively get a few of Optimus Prime's backstories in one film/story.

Put in most of them! (Yeah I probably lost a few people with that)

Some people go through different jobs in life, the OP movie could partially deal with Optimus trying to find his place in the world prior to becoming the Autobot leader. (And maybe a Prime along the way if were going with the Prime is a rank thing.)

He could start off in life as lowly repair technician like TFA (Probably not something as grand as space bridges), later getting the attention of Alpha Trion who hires him to be a data archiver like TFP, however later on he gains the desire for adventure and glory whether that's inspiration from Megatron or a personal desire (Op doesn't have to be perfect prior to becoming Prime since this is a "heroes journey" type movie) and joins up with some sort of police force or Elite Guard as a cadet like IDW and I guess TFA to an extent, his heroics in the line of duty gets him noticed by the current council or Prime which leads to him getting the official Prime title or a high position which leads to jealousy from Megatron which leads to them to officially break their partner ship, afterwards on Prime has to lie low which he does by becoming a dock worker before being eventually found.


Also had this idea for a Knights of the Round table inspired council of Prime's which would be a group of 13 who are inspired by the legend of the 13 (No actual proof if they actually exist or not in the movie), with different Primes, some being ones we know like Sentinel Prime, Zeta Prime, Star Saber Prime and Nova Prime or some of the Cybertron guys like Override with some new guys like Steelbane Prime (Yes inspired by that TLK toy), a Constructicon Prime and maybe some minor characters who visually take from some of the different Optimus's like RId2001 or Armada.

Optimus would be the newest member and replacing a recently killed member which could either be someone he never met or maybe his mentor Prime like Sentinel or something.

And not every single member would be dead by the time the war starts like say Star Saber who gives up his title to lead an Autobot fleet in space or Override becoming a high ranked soldier.


Anyways I think an Optimus Prime film should not also be the Cybertron war film, I would say leave the War for it's own film besides the start of it and a notable battle or two that way the war can get the screen time it deserves as well as focus on a different cast.

To be fair, he was only a technician because of that mission he and sentinel screwed up. I prefer the space cop approach of IDW, but would love to see a new take on it. They could even do the whole Prime is Megatrons brother and run away with that,

Re: Discussion on Next Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:50 pm
by Deadput
ZeroWolf wrote:To be fair, he was only a technician because of that mission he and sentinel screwed up. I prefer the space cop approach of IDW, but would love to see a new take on it. They could even do the whole Prime is Megatrons brother and run away with that,

Yeah I know, just wanted to start him out with a lowly job therefor his whole rise to the greater good has more oomph.

Also wanted to start Optimus (Or Orion Pax) as an every man and not as a "awesome guy" from birth, even then the other jobs like Data Archiver and then Cop/Elite Guard Cadet aren't really special positions either, he would get noticed and eventually become Prime (Or just a high position if we don't go for the Primes as ranks thing) for his own actions and outstanding heroics, not just he so happens to already have a specific job.

From the way I would write him, I want him to be this humble guy who has to work to earn his position and as well as not putting in the work because he wants a higher position but because he's trying to do the right thing for his fellow Transformers, early on he would have his rough bumps but that's so he can have character development and eventually become the great Optimus Prime, I don't want him to start out as already perfect.

Edit: Actually with the idea of Megatron I had the idea that Transformers don't normally have military type bodies normally, Seekers and other military bodies like Vehicons and tanks would be stock bodies that other Transformers transfer their bodies into whether voluntarily or having to repay a debt.

Megatron would start as a mining type vehicle, and the only differences he would make once becoming the Decepticon leader would be to add a canon and get a fresh coat of paint, so Megatron wouldn't have a military type body but a normal body that was modified for war.

It would give more of a reason for why Autobots tend to just be normal body type characters.

Re: Discussion on Next Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:12 pm
by ZeroWolf
Some interesting ideas there :)

Re: Discussion on Next Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:10 pm
by Dominus Prime
Bonaventura had their hands in the 1986 animated film if I recall. Whether they were or not, I believe this film will be based on the siege toy line to jumpstart it and create interest in it for the younger generation while doing a fan service for us OGs

Re: Discussion on Next Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:12 pm
by Dominus Prime
I stand corrected. It was delarentes that dealt with 1986 film

Re: Discussion on Next Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:23 pm
by Deadput
I do have my suspicions that Siege and it's following toylines in the War for Cybertron series will be used as a base for the Cybertron story and characters.

Re: Discussion on Next Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:54 pm
by Dominus Prime
Agreed. It makes sense for them to do that. Just the look of the toy line is like a soft reboot of G1 and the comics are following suit also if I'm not mistaken. It makes sense to unify it to help promote the toy line and reignite interest for those just getting into the franchise

Re: Discussion on Next Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:10 pm
by Deadput
I mean if we actually get characters like Cog and Six Gun or Flywheels and Brunt that would be awesome.

Brunt himself makes a good template for Decepticon Vehicon/soldiers, maybe Brunt is a higher ranked member of said group if he was to be a character himself.

Re: Discussion on Next Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:56 pm
by Dominus Prime
That would be good. Hopefully the movie is true animation and not cell shaded computer animation, unless it's done really well.

Re: Discussion on Next Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:59 pm
by Deadput
Dominus Prime wrote:That would be good. Hopefully the movie is true animation and not cell shaded computer animation, unless it's done really well.


I doubt we will get a full film in the style of the Bumblebee Cybertron scene. (Not the robot designs but the sort of "live action" cgi)

It definitely will be 3d and stuff since I doubt that 2d animation will be worth it.

Re: Discussion on Next Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:12 pm
by Dominus Prime
Yea, I wouldn't think it'd be animated like the bumblebee film. Just hope it's not crappy computer animation like transformers energon or something. Really good 2D animation would be ideal but I don't see them doing that

Re: Discussion on Next Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:20 pm
by Deadput
Dominus Prime wrote:Yea, I wouldn't think it'd be animated like the bumblebee film. Just hope it's not crappy computer animation like transformers energon or something. Really good 2D animation would be ideal but I don't see them doing that


This will be a movie so it won't have the budget of a tv show so I wouldn't worry about it being as bad as Energon.

Re: Discussion on Next Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:33 pm
by Dominus Prime
I'm sure it won't be that bad. Just want them to do it right

Re: Untitled Transformers / Cybertron Prequel Movie Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:15 pm
by william-james88
Just bumping this to make it easier to find now that it has popped back up in the news

Re: Untitled Transformers / Cybertron Prequel Movie Thread

PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:48 am
by ZeroWolf
I doubt it will be based on Siege for the sole reason that Siege will be over and done with by the time this movie releases which may be 2020 at the earliest, when the war for Cybertron line will be in its second year under a different tag. Also I speculate it will be 3D animation solely.

Re: Untitled Transformers / Cybertron Prequel Movie Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:14 am
by ImperiousRexS2K
I just hope with the financial success of Bumblebee, we get a Cybertron focused prequel like we saw in the beginning of that movie. I was just so psyched to see Wheeljack, Cliffjumper, etc in such accurate glory that we never got in the Bay movies...

Re: Untitled Transformers / Cybertron Prequel Movie Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:25 am
by Sabrblade
ImperiousRexS2K wrote:I just hope with the financial success of Bumblebee, we get a Cybertron focused prequel like we saw in the beginning of that movie. I was just so psyched to see Wheeljack, Cliffjumper, etc in such accurate glory that we never got in the Bay movies...
Considering that the movies aren't G1, calling any of the designs "accurate" like that is as much a misnomer as doing so for characters of the Unicron Trilogy.

Re: Untitled Transformers / Cybertron Prequel Movie Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:02 am
by ZeroWolf
Sabrblade wrote:
ImperiousRexS2K wrote:I just hope with the financial success of Bumblebee, we get a Cybertron focused prequel like we saw in the beginning of that movie. I was just so psyched to see Wheeljack, Cliffjumper, etc in such accurate glory that we never got in the Bay movies...
Considering that the movies aren't G1, calling any of the designs "accurate" like that is as much a misnomer as doing so for characters of the Unicron Trilogy.

I think the point was that they were accurate to G1, which makes me wonder how well bee (or that scene in particular) would have been if a different design had been used, but for sake of argument, if they had went with Armada styled designs.

Re: Untitled Transformers / Cybertron Prequel Movie Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:26 pm
by Sabrblade
ZeroWolf wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ImperiousRexS2K wrote:I just hope with the financial success of Bumblebee, we get a Cybertron focused prequel like we saw in the beginning of that movie. I was just so psyched to see Wheeljack, Cliffjumper, etc in such accurate glory that we never got in the Bay movies...
Considering that the movies aren't G1, calling any of the designs "accurate" like that is as much a misnomer as doing so for characters of the Unicron Trilogy.

I think the point was that they were accurate to G1, which makes me wonder how well bee (or that scene in particular) would have been if a different design had been used, but for sake of argument, if they had went with Armada styled designs.
I kinda feel it was more primarily Travis Knight than the design team who pushed for the more G1-styled designs, what with that design video he was in where he talked about that and such.

Re: Untitled Transformers / Cybertron Prequel Movie Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:42 pm
by Sabrblade
Houston, we have a director!

It is none other than Josh Cooley, director of Toy Story 4 and who has also had worked on The Incredibles, Cars, Ratatouille, Up, Cars 2, and was one of the writers of Inside Out.

This film will also explore the history of Optimus and Megatron set on Cybertron in the past, but curiously, the article claims that this movie is ostensibly "separate and apart from" the live action films. Time will tell what that entails.

Director Announced for Animated Transformers Prequel Movie and Final Draft Being Reviewed

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:08 pm
by william-james88
We have some pretty big news regarding an upcoming Transformers film. This is for the animated origin film which would be about the relationship between Optimus and Megatron leading into the War on Cybertron. We now know that the director will be Josh Clooney who recently directed Toy Story 4. He is currently reviewing the final draft from writers Andrew Barrer & Gabriel Ferrari. Those two did production work on Ant-Man and were the credited writers on Ant-Man and the Wasp. The article from Deadline says that this is not part of the live action Bay franchise (which they reiterate does include Bumblebee). Hence why calling it a prequel, as the article does, is a bit of a contradiction. It's pretty cool to know that this big budget animated film is now in the hands of the man who directed the most recent winner of the Oscar for best animated film. You'll let us know what you think.

Here is what Sabrblade initially shared with us.

Sabrblade wrote:Houston, we have a director!

It is none other than Josh Cooley, director of Toy Story 4 and who has also had worked on The Incredibles, Cars, Ratatouille, Up, Cars 2, and was one of the writers of Inside Out.

This film will also explore the history of Optimus and Megatron set on Cybertron in the past, but curiously, the article claims that this movie is ostensibly "separate and apart from" the live action films. Time will tell what that entails.


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Re: Untitled Transformers / Cybertron Prequel Movie Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:23 pm
by Ultra Markus
it will be interesting to see which adaptation of transformers this will be apart of or if it will be separate from everything else :-?