Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 3:59 am
by TOO MUCH ENERGON!
Rodimus Prime wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:I don't know what that means.
You don't know what is ESG?
The TlDr is it's an organisation that lend BILLIONS of dollars everywhere, all over the world, but at the condition that your company is "active socially" and "send the right message."
Ok, got it.
Oh and as for the Bayverse movie "message", it's easy: BUY STUFF!
Ah yes. Much like the rest of Transformers media
It's right-wing conspiracy nonsense.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 4:17 am
by ZeroWolf
== A friendly notice to keep this about the Rise of the Beasts and not to start any attempt to derail the thread with political talk. ==
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 5:32 am
by AllNewSuperRobot
First-Aid wrote:In the end, what it boils down to is "Ye cannae change the laws of physics!" Matter, no matter how dense, can be damaged by other matter if the impact, force, speed, energy, and heat are adequate. This applies to alien metals, too.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 6:28 am
by -Kanrabat-
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
First-Aid wrote:In the end, what it boils down to is "Ye cannae change the laws of physics!" Matter, no matter how dense, can be damaged by other matter if the impact, force, speed, energy, and heat are adequate. This applies to alien metals, too.
Indeed, I'm not so sure about that too. Because just by existing, the Transformers defy laws of physics.
So, better not thinking about anything logical because we'll be here for a while. Like for example, how microorganisms are conveniently ignored in 99% of SF/fantasy stories, unless they are the main focus.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 6:31 am
by AllNewSuperRobot
I like how the Stargate series did it. Every time they encountered a vastly superior alien intelligence. They worded our scientific understanding of the universe as "young". Essentially, a less patronising pat on the head.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 3:05 pm
by Sculyblast
New Theory: Cheetor is Unicron.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 3:12 pm
by Cheesinator
First-Aid wrote:In the end, what it boils down to is "Ye cannae change the laws of physics!" Matter, no matter how dense, can be damaged by other matter if the impact, force, speed, energy, and heat are adequate. This applies to alien metals, too.
I thought it was very much the opposite; the laws of physics are usually the very first casualty in scifi movies. The Transformer movies in particular have been pretty consistent with disregarding basic physics whenever doing so might look cool.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 3:37 pm
by -Kanrabat-
Cheesinator wrote:
First-Aid wrote:In the end, what it boils down to is "Ye cannae change the laws of physics!" Matter, no matter how dense, can be damaged by other matter if the impact, force, speed, energy, and heat are adequate. This applies to alien metals, too.
I thought it was very much the opposite; the laws of physics are usually the very first casualty in scifi movies. The Transformer movies in particular have been pretty consistent with disregarding basic physics whenever doing so might look cool.
Just your basic action movie is a cheater with guns and explosions alone. The Mythbusters had fun tackling every single one of those cheats over their seasons.
Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Image of Noah in Exosuit
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 10:57 pm
by william-james88
Hasbro/Paramount are ramping things up with there being only 1 month left before the release of Rise of the Beasts. We finally have a clip showing all the main heroes (except for Airazor) meeting up for the first time. This gives us a good look at the finished CGI, the bots in motion, and how Arcee and Wheeljack talk. We do get a sense of what Wheeljack will look like for the majority of the film, which is without the "ears", and he does have to rearrange his glasses when being hit, as fans feared.
We also had another clip from a boxing match promotional crossover where we had half a second more of the previous trailer's footage giving us a good look at the exosuit. It is distinctly Mirage themed, lending credence to the test screenings we previously reported on where that exosuit is also Mirage's essence.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 11:24 pm
by First-Aid
It's nice to see how much they've cleaned up the CGI in this scene from the teaser trailer. I'm also getting the feeling Mirage is kind of an idiot or maybe a Hot Shot (Armada) type character.
DId Wheeljack seriously go Alfa-5 on us in this spot?
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 11:35 pm
by Dr. Caelus
The exosuit is a reference to something. Even the pose in that shot looks familiar. I thought at first it was G1 Jazz's pretender shell, but I think instead it must be a powermaster partner I'm thinking of???
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 11:48 pm
by william-james88
Dr. Caelus wrote:The exosuit is a reference to something. Even the pose in that shot looks familiar. I thought at first it was G1 Jazz's pretender shell, but I think instead it must be a powermaster partner I'm thinking of???
Looks very reminiscent of Kicker
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 11:51 pm
by Sabrblade
So this clip pretty much confirms that both Mirage and Wheeljack, in contrast to both DOTM Dino and DOTM Que/BB Wheeljack, are youngsters.
Admittedly, there's still some wiggle-room with Mirage/Dino since the younger is at least still chronologically before the senior, But Wheeljack goes from a man to a boy to an old man in this chronology.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 12:07 am
by william-james88
Sabrblade wrote:So this clip pretty much confirms that both Mirage and Wheeljack, in contrast to both DOTM Dino and DOTM Que/BB Wheeljack, are youngsters.
Admittedly, there's still some wiggle-room with Mirage/Dino since the younger is at least still chronologically before the senior, But Wheeljack goes from a man to a boy to an old man in this chronology.
I never thought those were implied to be the same characters
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 12:10 am
by Dr. Caelus
william-james88 wrote:
Dr. Caelus wrote:The exosuit is a reference to something. Even the pose in that shot looks familiar. I thought at first it was G1 Jazz's pretender shell, but I think instead it must be a powermaster partner I'm thinking of???
Looks very reminiscent of Kicker
It's the white glass-front helmet and red chest vents that stand out to me specifically. I'm 90% certain it's something either from old packaging art or Marvel G1/G2.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 12:13 am
by Sabrblade
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:So this clip pretty much confirms that both Mirage and Wheeljack, in contrast to both DOTM Dino and DOTM Que/BB Wheeljack, are youngsters.
Admittedly, there's still some wiggle-room with Mirage/Dino since the younger is at least still chronologically before the senior, But Wheeljack goes from a man to a boy to an old man in this chronology.
I never thought those were implied to be the same characters
Where were you during the months of discourse over this guy:
Not looking like this guy?
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 12:30 am
by Bounti76
I realize it's only one line, but I'm glad that Liza Koshy's take on Arcee seems to be decent. I was a tad worried when they announced her as Arcee, given my image of her as a YouTuber/"influencer", but I'll be glad to be wrong.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 11:03 am
by william-james88
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:So this clip pretty much confirms that both Mirage and Wheeljack, in contrast to both DOTM Dino and DOTM Que/BB Wheeljack, are youngsters.
Admittedly, there's still some wiggle-room with Mirage/Dino since the younger is at least still chronologically before the senior, But Wheeljack goes from a man to a boy to an old man in this chronology.
I never thought those were implied to be the same characters
Where were you during the months of discourse over this guy:
Not looking like this guy?
Talking more about the Que thing, I don't think those characters are related chronologically. Same for Mirage and Dino.
Transformers ROTB and Little Mermaid Mashup Happened During a Glitch at Cinema
Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 11:21 am
by william-james88
Here is some fun news, trailers all follow a similar formula and run time so during a projection glitch at a showing of the Guardians of the Galaxy vol 3, both the trailers for The Little Mermaid and Transformers Rise of the Beasts played at the same time. It made for the ultimate film, as you can see in this clip posted on Twitter.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 11:37 am
by mech_dh
the exo suit reminds me of the ones the Headmaster Juniors would wear in Master Force
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 11:44 am
by First-Aid
That is awesome! Maybe the best improvement they can make to the horrific remake of the Little Mermaid ( like all of Disney's live action remakes of animated classics). I might pay to see both of them overlapping for the full length...
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 12:15 pm
by AllNewSuperRobot
Much like Hasbro*, I'd love to see Disney return to animation. Coming from an Arty-Farty/creative background. I've always looked at Live Action Disney** with disdain.
*There are plenty of stories out there for Hasbro to make into animated movies. Maybe even abandoned projects like Animated Season 4 or Transtech could continue through such an outlet.
**The only Live Action exception I make. While not technically 100% Disney, is Who Framed Roger Rabbit. The very best kids movie ever made!
Meanwhile, back on topic. Myself and three friends went to see the BB movie upon release. We've booked a repeat outing for ROTB.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 12:17 pm
by Bumblevivisector
Holy Mother of Primus, it's:
SEA CHANGE The Movie!
Not an ep I'd have picked for a feature length update, but as a Disney X-over, it makes perfect sense!
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 12:28 pm
by DeathReviews
Arial: They've got gadgets and gizmos a-plenty! They've got whozits and whatzits galore! You want thing-a-ma-bobs? Each one's got twenty! And if that - weren't enough? They transfooooooorm....!
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 1:16 pm
by griftimus prime
just a bad scene all around. till prime talks. and thats mostly just how well he delivered the lines. those people should have been so scared that ape was in front of them going nuts they would pass out or be laying down or something. stranger danger? just wow