Seibertron.com Energon Pub Forums

I mean I would only say Leadfoot fits that bill to being close to offensive, and even then I would only consider the belly to fit the bill, but even then it's more like the car hood chests of characters like G1 Jazz/Prowl but lower down rather then being actually fat.

Sabrblade wrote:Don't forget Leadfoot's massive beer gut.

I mean as the above photo shows, it's not even obvious from certain angles so I wouldn't consider it massive by any means.

There isn't anything of a dead-ringer to that with Roadbuster and Topspin besides the vague shape of a ballcap, Mullet and "glasses" if you want to call the visors that.







For the actual stereotype nature of the Wreckers, it's really, really tame.

Sabrblade wrote:

First-Aid wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:At least you remember something he did. By contrast I watched DOTM twice and can't say what the wreckers did in that movie at all.

I remember one thing. They mutilated some dude.

They were offensive to rednecks and their culture.

Do rednecks also have scottish accents?

Some do, yup. Remember, the definition of Redneck is a glorious absence of sophistication (full or part time). They had mullets and beards and Topspin had "shades" and a "ballcap" with his mullet.

Don't forget Leadfoot's massive beer gut.

Yep. I like him because of that. He's my idol. BEER GUTS OF THE WORLD UNITE!

Did any rednecks ever complain that they were offensive, or is it like it is with most other stereotypes in that someone who has nothing to do with it gets offended due to being pretentious?

Rodimus Prime wrote:Did any rednecks ever complain that they were offensive, or is it like it is with most other stereotypes in that someone who has nothing to do with it gets offended due to being pretentious?

I've never heard anybody actually complain about the Wreckers after the film came out, their no Skids and Mudflap that's for sure, I heard more people talk about Drift then the Wreckers.

The wreckers were very, very minor characters in the movie with barely any screen time. Skids and Mudflap were ROTF main characters and were annoying as hell.

The ones who complain about the "race" stuff were the usual race-grifters who only did so for clout and attention. Like ALL race-grifters who make money and fame on hate.
It's infuriating to see these Tartufes still able to attract so much attention. Especially in current year.

Let's hope TF7 will follow in the Bee Movie footsteps and will avoid the gross clichés AND the political pitfalls. TF7 should be what it should be: pure mindless fun.

Deadput wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Did any rednecks ever complain that they were offensive, or is it like it is with most other stereotypes in that someone who has nothing to do with it gets offended due to being pretentious?

I've never heard anybody actually complain about the Wreckers after the film came out, their no Skids and Mudflap that's for sure, I heard more people talk about Drift then the Wreckers.

WOw. Didn't realize it was going to cause this much discussion! I wish there was a "I'm being sarcastic and slightly cynical" emoji...sorry guys.

Actually, the main thing about rednecks is that they are so completely UNpretentious and really don't give a flying rat's patoote about what anyone thinks anyways, hence everyone's problem with them. All of Jeff Foxworthy's bits about rednecks are completely and utterly accurate and hilarious. "...you might be a redneck", the Redneck Fashion Tips, and Why Aliens Abduct Rednecks are absolutely tear-inducing...especially the last one! "Well, it kinda looked like a big booger..."

Not gonna news this as it is likely fake. But I will post this anonymously posted 4 chan post of the description of the characters in ROTB here just for the sake of later comparing to how things turned out:

Gonna describe concept art now:
>Optimus-pretty much Bee movie design but sleeker, has lots of grey chrome parts on him now, looks sexy.
>Bumblebee-Complete redesign from Camaro Bee from the last one, it shows the doors up like in bayverse but it actually looks good, head is pretty much the same, colors are a little lighter, hard to describe but they show a little more car parts, wheels are shown, etc.
>Arcee-new design, G1 head like Bee movie but red, very feminine look overall
>Mirage-Take G1 Jazz body and reshape it into a Mirage like body, that's it. Head is G1 Mirage, has nose too.
>BW Megatron- literally what you expect but robot head has a mask on it. Also, color is rusty with some actuall purple going on but it's metallic and then green ish skin.
>Scourge- similar to Motormaster in his design but live action, has fire coming from his body, a fire goatee, head resembles G1 and has some spikes going on, implied to have a third form... Dragon?
>Hun Gurr-orange truck like vedhicle, transforms into a beast similar to a robot from a kids show, can't remember what it was like, I think from 2015. Reminded me of a armadillo robot mode wise, lots of car parts too.
>Cheetor-BW in live action, looks beautiful
>Airazor-just like Cheetor
>Primal-only Gorilla form was shown, has a big green maximal logo on his chest, very hairy and black

Some of these match the info we got from the Paramount event.

TulioDude wrote:Some of these match the info we got from the Paramount event.

Yeah, that's how fake news works, they mix in stuff we know with stuff that is false or else it wouldnt be believable.

william-james88 wrote:

TulioDude wrote:Some of these match the info we got from the Paramount event.

Yeah, that's how fake news works, they mix in stuff we know with stuff that is false or else it wouldnt be believable.

Regardless, things are sure to be awesome toy-wise at the very least.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

TulioDude wrote:Some of these match the info we got from the Paramount event.

Yeah, that's how fake news works, they mix in stuff we know with stuff that is false or else it wouldnt be believable.

Regardless, things are sure to be awesome toy-wise at the very least.

I have not been able to get Studio Series Bumblebee Optimus Prime,so the idea of a upgraded version coming later is pretty cool!

Steven Caple, Jr. posted this to Instagram on Tuesday:

Sabrblade wrote:Steven Caple, Jr. posted this to Instagram on Tuesday:

Turns out he posted fan art.

I don't want to cause for senseless alarms so I will not news it (it's also not actual news). But Michael Bay is on set of the new Transformers movie in Machu Pichu. and that is all

william-james88 wrote:I don't want to cause for senseless alarms so I will not news it (it's also not actual news). But Michael Bay is on set of the new Transformers movie in Machu Pichu. and that is all

What's wrong with that? Maybe he will make this movie interesting so it's not as boring as BB movie was to me. Also he is just a producer, so I don't think he can interact with filming.

LinaNui wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I don't want to cause for senseless alarms so I will not news it (it's also not actual news). But Michael Bay is on set of the new Transformers movie in Machu Pichu. and that is all

What's wrong with that? Maybe he will make this movie interesting so it's not as boring as BB movie was to me. Also he is just a producer, so I don't think he can interact with filming.

He most definitely can, or else why would he even be on set in a foreign country with covid restructions?

LinaNui wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I don't want to cause for senseless alarms so I will not news it (it's also not actual news). But Michael Bay is on set of the new Transformers movie in Machu Pichu. and that is all

What's wrong with that? Maybe he will make this movie interesting so it's not as boring as BB movie was to me. Also he is just a producer, so I don't think he can interact with filming.

He can have input. He may even be helping with certain scenes that involve boom booms.

We knew Bumblebee would change to an off road mode once in Peru and now we have images of it. We also see Scourge quite well here, including all the fraction badges he took from fallen enemies/victims. We also see Nightbird for the first time, which is a black Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R. One important thing to note is that the Mirage Porsche is still there on set. Some fans were speculating that Mirage would change from scene to scene and that the Porsche was just one of his many alt modes, but now we know that he keeps that alt mode even once in the different setting of Peru.

The images below come from instagram user @ramdeenstudios and the Transformers Peru Facebook Group.

I want to get psyched for this. My concern now, we were told Predacons....but I haven't heard a peep about them. Are they really keeping those guys more under wraps than anyone else?

That_Guy wrote:I want to get psyched for this. My concern now, we were told Predacons....but I haven't heard a peep about them. Are they really keeping those guys more under wraps than anyone else?

Maybe they will be mostly CGI? We haven't seen anything of the maximals either... or maybe they just haven't started film for those scenes yet either way I am quite excited!

That_Guy wrote:I want to get psyched for this. My concern now, we were told Predacons....but I haven't heard a peep about them. Are they really keeping those guys more under wraps than anyone else?

They're probably going to be really minor characters since we already know that the Terrorcons are the main villains here.

Anyone else notice the dearth of Autobot and Decepticon insginias on Scourge's grill? Like he takes their insignias after he destroys them. Very unique touch....I like it

First-Aid wrote:Anyone else notice the dearth of Autobot and Decepticon insginias on Scourge's grill? Like he takes their insignias after he destroys them. Very unique touch....I like it

Yeah, I wrote as such in the article. There is a maximal insignia there too.

It's not unique though, this would be at least the third time we had something like this. Michael Bay would do similar stuff like this in his movies.

That_Guy wrote:I want to get psyched for this. My concern now, we were told Predacons....but I haven't heard a peep about them. Are they really keeping those guys more under wraps than anyone else?

We heard as much about them as the Decepticons. But unlike the Decepticons, they aren't cars so you wouldn't even see their alt modes in set(which is really bad news for anyone hoping to see Decepticons). The Predacons will be all CGI if they show up anyways. While all 5 fractions will be in the film, the main ones are the autobots vs the Terrorcons helped by the maximals. But the main characters will be 2 humans, so there's time that must be spent with them too.

True, but they said both Cons and Preds. And yea knowing preds will probably be minor they may not have speaking roles, rather a flashback where Primal talks about their war between Maximals and Preds.

Well I guess the director of Transformers 7 Rise of the Beasts saw that word and images got out and posted some nice group shots of the two teams on his Instagram. We see one shot of the Autobots with Steve Caple Jr in the middle and one shot of the Terrorcons. While we know the Maximals will also be in this movie (hence the film's title), they are all CGI, so only vehicle alt modes are on set. Which does indeed beg the question as to whether the Decepticons will be present or not since the "characters" shown in these images are from only 2 of the supposed 5 fractions in the movie. For the Autobots we have Optimus Prime, Bumblebee (in Off Road mode), Mirage, Arcee (first time seeing her motorcycle mode clearly) and an old VW van. The only other Autobot said to be prominent in the movie is Wheeljack, so this might be our first look at his alt mode.

For the Terrorcons we have Scourge, Nightbird and a an orange Truck.