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Think i found another blunder in the movie

Posted:
Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:42 pm
by Breakdown
ok when sam meets the autobots for the first time and optimus is explaining their origin and megs and stuff. he says that sams grandfather made a discovery finding megatron in 1897. now when frenzy is in the air force one plane extracting the "project iceman" files,it says the "iceman" was discovered in 1895!!!

did anyone else notice this? thats one(of many) blunders this movie has.
Re: Think i found another blunder in the movie

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:51 am
by The Paragon of Virtue
Breakdown wrote:ok when sam meets the autobots for the first time and optimus is explaining their origin and megs and stuff. he says that sams grandfather made a discovery finding megatron in 1897. now when frenzy is in the air force one plane extracting the "project iceman" files,it says the "iceman" was discovered in 1895!!!

did anyone else notice this? thats one(of many) blunders this movie has.
Yes. Here's a list of the errors other people saw:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0418279/goofs

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:54 pm
by Moonbase2
Also, they had a different name other than "Archibald". It was "Admundson" or something.

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:33 pm
by primalVICTORY
this may be confusing how i explain it and im not sure if its in there or not but..
when sam tries to get his car to work on the hill or w.e when driving mikaela home, the passenger door is open when he gets the car working. then when he goes to close the hood and get back in the door is already closed.

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:35 pm
by Sentinel Pax
Moonbase2 wrote:Also, they had a different name other than "Archibald". It was "Admundson" or something.
I don't think so...?

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:54 pm
by Breakdown
heres another blunder. when barricade tracks down sam. if u look closely at the shots of barricade moving towards sam,theres NOBODY IN THE CAR.until when barricades door open to hit sam, THEN u see the cop in the car.hahaha,man i love looking for **** up edits. they are priceless.

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:01 pm
by Delta82
I noticed that one too... Plus i noticed that when Frenzy would shoot out like 5 discs from his chest... You only see one in the next angle of the scene... And when Bumble Bee is being captured by sectro 7 after saving Sam and Mikela, you can see a platform with wheels under him moving him around(supposedly helicopters)
Re: Think i found another blunder in the movie

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:04 pm
by Breakdown
The Paragon of Virtue wrote:Breakdown wrote:ok when sam meets the autobots for the first time and optimus is explaining their origin and megs and stuff. he says that sams grandfather made a discovery finding megatron in 1897. now when frenzy is in the air force one plane extracting the "project iceman" files,it says the "iceman" was discovered in 1895!!!

did anyone else notice this? thats one(of many) blunders this movie has.
Yes. Here's a list of the errors other people saw:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0418279/goofs
man thats a crap load of errors. i noticed some of the ones from that list.some i didnt recognize,i need to look for them again.


Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:49 pm
by dragons
dont know if anyone would consider this a goof but all the autobots in car modes they dont use holograms but they decepticons do use holograms.
to mkae my point more cler before bunbmlebee pulls into the used car lot you can clearly see therre is no driver in the driver seat it maybe hard to see that in other scenes with bumblebee.

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:56 pm
by Breakdown
that is true autobots dont use holograms like decepticons do. but i think the reason the deceps use holos because they seem to interact more with earth. like blackout when he landed in qatar. if the troops didnt see a pilot they wouldve already known something was wrong. same with barricade. hes a cop car so he cant just drive around with no driver. guess since the deceps were searching for the all spark way b4 the autobots landed on earth(except bumblebee) they needed to blend in more with earth,therefore having drivers and pilots. remember starscream had a pilot as well. but the autobots seemed more in hiding,so no need for drivers. thats what i think.

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:04 pm
by Delta82
Yeah, and plus when they got to earth people mainly rode in them lol, Sam and mikela in Bumble, Capt. Lennox was in Ironhide once, Plus they mainly drove with soldiers who knew who they were

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:07 pm
by R-Burst
Moonbase2 wrote:Also, they had a different name other than "Archibald". It was "Admundson" or something.
Amundsen is Archibald's middle name.

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:26 pm
by Breakdown
Delta82 wrote:Yeah, and plus when they got to earth people mainly rode in them lol, Sam and mikela in Bumble, Capt. Lennox was in Ironhide once, Plus they mainly drove with soldiers who knew who they were
yeah that makes sense too. like you said the human friends they had with them already knew the whole situation. man wonder if the constructicons will be put in the 2nd movie,will they have like holograms of constructions workers driving them? i wonder.


Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:56 pm
by qwailo
Delta82 wrote:I noticed that one too... Plus i noticed that when Frenzy would shoot out like 5 discs from his chest... You only see one in the next angle of the scene... And when Bumble Bee is being captured by sectro 7 after saving Sam and Mikela, you can see a platform with wheels under him moving him around(supposedly helicopters)
I think the platform is supposed to be there. I think they were loading him onto it because in the next scene when they are moving him to the Hoover Dam you can see them wheeling him into the building on the same platform.
I'll look out for it when i see it next.

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:57 pm
by Rushie
Breakdown wrote:heres another blunder. when barricade tracks down sam. if u look closely at the shots of barricade moving towards sam,theres NOBODY IN THE CAR.until when barricades door open to hit sam, THEN u see the cop in the car.hahaha,man i love looking for **** up edits. they are priceless.
That's not really a goof, the guy's a hologram. It's possible Barricade only projected his hologram after Sam got hit by the door.

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:27 pm
by Breakdown
ehh,i dont know. the way it was shot and edited,it definitely looks like they f*cked up.if barricade did indeed hologramed the cop,i think the audience wouldve known.

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:36 pm
by Robinson
Breakdown wrote:ehh,i dont know. the way it was shot and edited,it definitely looks like they f*cked up.if barricade did indeed hologramed the cop,i think the audience wouldve known.
Its not a goof as far as I can tell because sam was riding the bike ad all flustered so he wouldnt be paying attention to the interior of the car until he got knocked off of the bike and thn tried to talk to the cop. Its like when starscream was just sitting on the tarmac waiting to find out where the allspark was and then once he knew he created a hologram pilot so that when he took off no one (in the movie) would notice a jet flying without a pilot.

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:15 pm
by Breakdown
hmmm,to me it seemed the pilot was already in starscream when frenzy reported the location of the all spark. u just saw that glitch like on the human the same way they showed the pilot in blackout in the beginning. but it still seems like a goof. he just appeared in barricade once the door closed back. it looked like an edit goof,because there was no proof that barricade just made the human hologram, it was like in 1 second you see the head of the driver when the door closes,but u didnt see him at all when barricade was chasing sam.

Posted:
Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:41 pm
by tom brokaw
Rushie wrote:Breakdown wrote:heres another blunder. when barricade tracks down sam. if u look closely at the shots of barricade moving towards sam,theres NOBODY IN THE CAR.until when barricades door open to hit sam, THEN u see the cop in the car.hahaha,man i love looking for **** up edits. they are priceless.
That's not really a goof, the guy's a hologram. It's possible Barricade only projected his hologram after Sam got hit by the door.
im pretty certain that that wasnt a goof....
....but yea, there are tons of errors in this movie, many of which werent posted on imbd.com. its actually pretty fun trying to find them when you're watching for more than the first time.

Posted:
Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:37 am
by dragons
found couple other ones not sure if you would consider some spoofs or not but in the scene when sam gets arrsted by police in the junkyard the officer car door has punish and enslave written on it.
that blond hacker woman freainds with anthony anderson in the film through out the film she has a skirt on but when she get outs of the car at the dam she has on jean shorts if thats what they are called.
mekilla left her bag on top of the dam out in the open for some to steal it and freanzy falls down to the ground she didnt take her bag with her.
when mikallawent to get her stuff at the construction site the scene shows her just picking up her stuff not sams jeans
there were otheres but i have to see the film for the 6th time i dont remember to much about yesturday
Re: Think i found another blunder in the movie

Posted:
Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:41 am
by Tybre
Breakdown wrote:ok when sam meets the autobots for the first time and optimus is explaining their origin and megs and stuff. he says that sams grandfather made a discovery finding megatron in 1897. now when frenzy is in the air force one plane extracting the "project iceman" files,it says the "iceman" was discovered in 1895!!!

did anyone else notice this? thats one(of many) blunders this movie has.
Earlier in the film, when he presents his project in what is presumably his History class, he states that the glasses and other items were possessions of his
great grandfather. Bay probably found it easier to call him grandfather. In my family, my maternal great grandfather is alive but we just call him grandpa.
dragons wrote:found couple other ones not sure if you would consider some spoofs or not but in the scene when sam gets arrsted by police in the junkyard the officer car door has punish and enslave written on it.
That would be Barricade. It's supposed to say that.
dragons wrote:that blond hacker woman friends with anthony anderson in the film through out the film she has a skirt on but when she get outs of the car at the dam she has on jean shorts if thats what they are called.
We don't see the humans 100% of the time. It was probably just that she wound up wearing that that day but in film context we can explain it away as she changed at some point when the cam was following Prime or something.
dragons wrote:mekilla left her bag on top of the dam out in the open for some to steal it and freanzy falls down to the ground she didnt take her bag with her.
when mikallawent to get her stuff at the construction site the scene shows her just picking up her stuff not sams jeans
So she's a dumbass who left behind her bag? As for the pants thing, meh.

Posted:
Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:53 am
by primalVICTORY
dragons wrote:when mikallawent to get her stuff at the construction site the scene shows her just picking up her stuff not sams jeans
they show his jeans right near hers so she would just pick them up as well. we dont see her turn back to the car leaving his pants do we? didnt think so..

Posted:
Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:24 pm
by redmarauder747
Breakdown wrote:heres another blunder. when barricade tracks down sam. if u look closely at the shots of barricade moving towards sam,theres NOBODY IN THE CAR.until when barricades door open to hit sam, THEN u see the cop in the car.hahaha,man i love looking for **** up edits. they are priceless.
It is because TF's can generate hologram of any driver -making humans not to noticed that tey are aliens because neither the heroes nor the decepticons are susceptible to man's weapon & armaments.

Posted:
Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:27 pm
by redmarauder747
primalVICTORY wrote:dragons wrote:when mikallawent to get her stuff at the construction site the scene shows her just picking up her stuff not sams jeans
they show his jeans right near hers so she would just pick them up as well. we dont see her turn back to the car leaving his pants do we? didnt think so..
Mikaela wants some live action too - don't you think, she may be flirting with Sam and Sam did make a smooth move by letting her sit on his lap- "safety first"- they might have done a quickie while making it to landing site of the autobots.


Posted:
Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:29 pm
by redmarauder747
Breakdown wrote:hmmm,to me it seemed the pilot was already in starscream when frenzy reported the location of the all spark. u just saw that glitch like on the human the same way they showed the pilot in blackout in the beginning. but it still seems like a goof. he just appeared in barricade once the door closed back. it looked like an edit goof,because there was no proof that barricade just made the human hologram, it was like in 1 second you see the head of the driver when the door closes,but u didnt see him at all when barricade was chasing sam.
Even Autobots can generate a hologram, guess the decepticns had the same program file on borad to run a pilot or a driver. that mustache man is also the sector seven agent who approach & talk to the defense secretary. FYI.