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Questions having seen the film

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:17 pm
by Windsweeper
If Michael Bay was against the mass shifting idea which Dreamwave nicely explained in the MTMTE series, why doesn't he have a problem with the shrinking of the Allspark?

Anyone else feel the Allspark, while obviously inspired by the Matrix and named after the Allspark dimension, had it's appearance inspired by the Marvel comics Underbase?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:07 pm
by Rushie
I can buy the idea of the Allspark mass shifting, while TFs can't. The Allspark is like the Movie version of Primus. The creator of the TransFormer race. Any god or creator should be superior in power to its creations.

On a different note of 'why do people say _ while _':

Why is the general public (especially parents who went with their young children) in an uproar about the masturbation joke, yet nobody complained about Ratchet's remark about Sam's pherone levels. That one actually went a lot further IMO.
Perhaps it's the fact Ratchet used decent vocabulary to somewhat hide his blunt directness.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:11 pm
by Delta82
Rushie wrote:I can buy the idea of the Allspark mass shifting, while TFs can't. The Allspark is like the Movie version of Primus. The creator of the TransFormer race. Any god or creator should be superior in power to its creations.

On a different note of 'why do people say _ while _':

Why is the general public (especially parents who went with their young children) in an uproar about the masturbation joke, yet nobody complained about Ratchet's remark about Sam's pherone levels. That one actually went a lot further IMO.
Perhaps it's the fact Ratchet used decent vocabulary to somewhat hide his blunt directness.


I didnt think that was innapropriate, it was just funny... It kinda put Sam on the spot lol.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:29 pm
by primalVICTORY
Delta82 wrote:
Rushie wrote:I can buy the idea of the Allspark mass shifting, while TFs can't. The Allspark is like the Movie version of Primus. The creator of the TransFormer race. Any god or creator should be superior in power to its creations.

On a different note of 'why do people say _ while _':

Why is the general public (especially parents who went with their young children) in an uproar about the masturbation joke, yet nobody complained about Ratchet's remark about Sam's pherone levels. That one actually went a lot further IMO.
Perhaps it's the fact Ratchet used decent vocabulary to somewhat hide his blunt directness.


I didnt think that was innapropriate, it was just funny... It kinda put Sam on the spot lol.


ye exactly. it only lasted like 2 seconds and yes, it was funny. i dont see anything wrong with it..

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:56 am
by Rushie
Heck, I found it funny as well. Ratchet is simply innocently stating a scientific biological fact and unknowingly puts Sam in a terrible embarrasment. Shia's facial expression was perfect IMO, only Megan could have reacted a bit more. She probably thought Shia had a close-up or something, because I really missed any reaction on her face after Ratchet said it.

I just don't get why they only picked the masturbation joke to get all the attention. There were way more references to adult content in this film.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:58 am
by juushinkan
Rushie wrote:I can buy the idea of the Allspark mass shifting, while TFs can't. The Allspark is like the Movie version of Primus. The creator of the TransFormer race. Any god or creator should be superior in power to its creations.

On a different note of 'why do people say _ while _':

Why is the general public (especially parents who went with their young children) in an uproar about the masturbation joke, yet nobody complained about Ratchet's remark about Sam's pherone levels. That one actually went a lot further IMO.
Perhaps it's the fact Ratchet used decent vocabulary to somewhat hide his blunt directness.


But Frenzy mass shifts. If you look closely when the spider legs pop out of the bottom of his head right after Sam field goal kicks him he visually grows larger on the screen. Maybe it's just something specific to him, though. We all know that Frenzy is anything but normal.

Re: Questions having seen the film

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:17 pm
by Roberto Orci
Windsweeper wrote:If Michael Bay was against the mass shifting idea which Dreamwave nicely explained in the MTMTE series, why doesn't he have a problem with the shrinking of the Allspark?

Anyone else feel the Allspark, while obviously inspired by the Matrix and named after the Allspark dimension, had it's appearance inspired by the Marvel comics Underbase?


Same reason the Ark in "Raiders" has spirits flying out of it but not Indiana Jones or any other characters.