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after seeing the tformers movie a second time i noticed that scorponok was not present at the last battle and it is clar that he survives the desert battle. For that matter i also dont remeber barricade dying in the last battle and the only way i remeber him from was when all the decpticons had reported in.

I think that Bonecrusher and Megatron are the only Decepticons that are for certain dead. The others are either alive and some have question marks as to their status. Blackout and Brawl could be out of commission but not 'dead'.

at the end i could've swore that i saw rotor blades on the boat but im not sure about brawl.

Actually, im pretty sure bonecrusher will live, Brawl got shot in the spark to many times, as did Blackout... Plus scorponok is either dead or killing people in the desert


Also, people have said that Barricade wasn't present because in the next movie he might be revealed as an Auto-Bot Spy.

Delta82 wrote:Also, people have said that Barricade wasn't present because in the next movie he might be revealed as an Auto-Bot Spy.

where the hell did you hear that? that wouldnt really make much sense. he's almost going to kill sam and then fights bumblebee..doesnt sound very much like what an autobot would be like, even if he was a spy.

personally i think,

Scorpy survived.

Megs will be regenerated/reformatted by the power of the all spark.

Blackout was on the boat, i saw a panel with the markings from his vehicle mode so doubt he will be bak

Not sure bout barricade....mabey he left to get a badly damaged frenzy

its what i heard

Far as I can tell Starscream Scorponok and Barricade were the only decepticon survivors but Barricade just kinda disappears while we're on the subject what happened to all the robots created from the energon wave that was sent out in the middle of the city ?

Barricade wrote::BANG_HEAD:

i think you're beating a dead horse with the dead horse picture.
time to come up with something new.

Delta82 wrote:its what i heard

from where or whom? im curious to see who actually thinks barricade is a spy.

Starscream is the only one to definitely survive.

Barricade MIGHT'VE survived, but all the rest are DEAD AND NOT COMING BACK.

i noticed after buying th comic book adaptation keep in mind the only differnces i've seen are parts that gave been cut out is when the tformers were dumed in to the sea they were also nuked and im also cuious about the end of the tformers movie from what i remeber a shuttle flies acrossthe screen from what i can gather i offer2 explanations 1 is jetfire responding to optimuses call and the other being astrotrain coming to ck up his dmaged comrades

also i believe that sector seven was not totaly disolved because in ghost of yeterday the prequel sector seven has an arcti base around megatron's crash site and im thinking qabout the ars sitings in the movie and prevews it eems possible that the decpticons might have a base of somesorts

No, Scorponok clearly survived as well. I only saw the movie once, but it was very clear he dug himself into the desert sands to save his skin. That, and his tail was still active. It wouldn't be able to move on its own if Scorponok was dead himself.

decepticonjon wrote:

Barricade wrote::BANG_HEAD:

i think you're beating a dead horse with the dead horse picture.
time to come up with something new.

better???

Well heres what I think:

Starscream, Barricade & Scorponok are definetly alive & well (with Scorponok being the acception to this in regards to damage).

Notice the parallels to the Energon Series, where Scorponok is found damaged & offline...

The others who died, Megatron, Blackout, Brawl & Bonecrusher were dumped into the sea.

Cast your mind back to G1 series, on Earth the Decepitcons base is under the sea...

Prime recovered the All Spark fragment from Megatrons chest, this will be the key to Megs & others resurrection.

All the right plot lines are in place for TF2.

Heres how it'll go in my mind...

Starscream take the lead once again, he recalls all Decepticons to retreat to their sea base, he also calls for the recovery of all the Decepticons dumped into the sea...

Starscream calls for re-inforcements from Cybertron, and also ralles all the Newly formed Decepticons on Earth from the Energon wave that went out during the film, other Autobots were formed to but that wasn't shown.

Jetfire, Blurr, Ultra Magnus, Redalert & others arrives on Earth, as does Tidalwave, Soundwave, Sideways, Shockblast & others.

Starscream orders the recovery of the Allspark fragment to recover his lost comrades, he secretly plans to leave Megs at the bottom of the sea, this plan fails as Unicron makes his presents felt and revives Megatron now Galvatron, Blackout, Brawl & Bonecrusher are all given new forms, Starscream is then destroyed by Galvatron for his failings, Galvatron now sets out to recover the Allspark fragment and destroy the Autobots once and for all.

Jazz is revived with the help of the Allspark fragment and the help of Ratchet & Redalert, although Jazz is now quite different from his last form...

I could do this all day....

You could say the dinobots arrive in protoform but crash into a museum and take on their preferred Alt modes, now that would be a sight.

Spielberg wouldn't have any problems getting some dino action in there

Lots of action ensues, and this time round Optimus is killed by Galvatron, the Decepticons then retreats back to Cybertron...

With Optimus down and Ultra Magnus in control of the matrix the scene is set for TF3 which will be set on Cybertron, Woooot, and Prime will make his return to fight off Galvatron & Unicron....

Shadowman wrote:Starscream is the only one to definitely survive.

Barricade MIGHT'VE survived, but all the rest are DEAD AND NOT COMING BACK.

Thank you. That's just what we needed here.

If everybody keeps getting revived, then Transformers will go on forever. I'd like to watch Transformers, not Dragon Ball Z! I'm not picking on DBZ either. It was a good show.

what about scorpy shadowman???

Barricade wrote:what about scorpy shadowman???

DEAD. Dead dead dead dead DEAD!!

If he didn't die of the wounds the planes gave him, then he died when Blackout did. Like in HMW (The game, not the episode) where a mini-con dies if it's host does as well.

Shadowman wrote:

Barricade wrote:what about scorpy shadowman???

DEAD. Dead dead dead dead DEAD!!

If he didn't die of the wounds the planes gave him, then he died when Blackout did. Like in HMW (The game, not the episode) where a mini-con dies if it's host does as well.

awesome theory

Bonecrusher and Megatron definitely died. Blackout and Barricade are probably alive, as there was no footage of them being slaughtered. As for Brawl, it's hard to say. I think I remember seeing him die, but I only saw the movie once, the day it came out at midnight.

I have rewatched it twice now, heres how it goes.

Dead: Blackout, Brawl, Bonecrusher & Megatron ARE DEAD, THEY WHERE DESTROYED ON SCREEN.

Blackout was killed by the Army & F-22s.

Bonecrushers had his head stabbed and removed by Prime.

Brawl went the same way as Blackout.

Megatron was killed by the Allspark being placed in his chest.

MIA: Starscream, Scorponok & Barricade, these guys are alive, at no point in the film did I see them die.

Starscream disappeared after he destroyed the human F-22s.

Barricade never got to the final battle, so he probably saw the Decetipcons getting an arse whoppin and did one to save his own skin.

Scorponok did escape, I saw him burrow into the sand after the battle, part of his tail breaks off, probably as a defence mechanism to stop the humans persuing him.

And FFS, Transformers can be revived & Reformatted, this is part of Transformers history and cannot be denied.

I'm 100% sure Megs & Co will be back, it just wouldn't be Transformers otherwise...

Blackout and Devastator are dead.
Megatron should be dead but will probably come back from his watery grave (you can't keep a good villain down).
Bonecrusher may or may not be dead. Remember that Frenzy was decapitated in the film and survived so it's possible Bonecrusher is still alive.
Frenzy seems nearly indestructible so I wouldn't put it passed him to have survived.

Barricade, Scorponok and Starscream all are definitely alive.

Rushie wrote:No, Scorponok clearly survived as well. I only saw the movie once, but it was very clear he dug himself into the desert sands to save his skin. That, and his tail was still active. It wouldn't be able to move on its own if Scorponok was dead himself.

I've seen the movie 3 times, scorponok is still alive as the transformer has re-generating ability, much like to human skin,
might have been hibernating & waiting for new orders. He did not make it to the attack since he got lost or out of sight from Blackout (I prefer to call this copter guy as Shockblast)
when StarScream (I'd call this ScaceScream Bec.they make him so ugly) suddenly made an order to mobilize. [/quote]