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Why Was Jazz Smaller Than Bumblebee?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:37 am
by Bumbled
I was quite surprised by this... and I posted another topic about this as well only thing saying "Was Jazz bigger than Bumblebee?" So this one is why?

My say, and Michael Bay's, well at least I think.

I read on another website that Michael Bay couldn't make Jazz bigger because he was a Pontiac Solstice. So that's what i think as well. The Camaro was bigger...

Why do you think he was smaller?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:43 am
by D-340
Because the Camero is bigger than the Solstice. Have you even seen a Pontiac Soltice up close? Man they're tiny. I'm actually suprised Jazz didn't look smaller.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:18 am
by Zinger
Well, they could've just as easily have made Jazz NOT a Pontiac Solstice, and have chosen a bigger car for his Alt.Mode. But I suppose in Jazz's case they wanted to go with something small, sleek, and sexy.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:28 am
by KingEmperor
^^^ Actually, I think I read an interview with Michael Bay sometime ago that he was given the Solstice to work with. He didn't want it, but he didn't have a choice.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:50 am
by Auto Bot
That's probably the deal with GM.

Business politics.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:51 am
by Zinger
^^ That seems like a slightly more likely cause. But I would imagine that as director, he'd have more power over choosing what cars to use for the robot characters. But maybe that's the reason Jazz was killed off; He didn't like the Solstice (Just kidding.)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:39 am
by Auto Bot
Zinger wrote:^^ That seems like a slightly more likely cause. But I would imagine that as director, he'd have more power over choosing what cars to use for the robot characters. But maybe that's the reason Jazz was killed off; He didn't like the Solstice (Just kidding.)


Don't be kidding. Maybe that CAN BE the real reason behind it.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:43 am
by Zinger
Oh Jeebus. You're right. :sad:

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:08 am
by immediate autobot
um in an interview, micheal said he hated jazz's alternate form but liked the guy, just hated his size and look, which is part of the reason ppl believe he was killed off

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:35 am
by Galvatron628
My theory:

They wanted to used the new camaro for the movie, so they talked to GM and it ended up turning into a deal where they HAD to use GM vehicles for cars in the movie. Now if you've seen a Solstice in real life, you know it resembles a porsche quite a bit. So they sacrificed his size to make his alt mode resemble his original!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:43 am
by Bladewing
Maybe it was so he could find a parking space more easily?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:45 am
by immediate autobot
Bladewing wrote:Maybe it was so he could find a parking space more easily?

yeah this does make the most sense, so its agreed,
looks like another mystery solved by the seibertron forum gang, our work here is done

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:15 am
by Auto Bot
immediate autobot wrote:
Bladewing wrote:Maybe it was so he could find a parking space more easily?

yeah this does make the most sense, so its agreed,
looks like another mystery solved by the seibertron forum gang, our work here is done


Autobots. Transform and roll out! To Cybertron!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:49 am
by RatchetMD
Jazz didn't eat his vegetables.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:58 am
by Auto Bot
RatchetMD wrote:Jazz didn't eat his vegetables.


And.. his growth tablets!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:01 am
by Tankman
He drank coffee and smoked

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:04 am
by RatchetMD
Tankman wrote:He drank coffee and smoked


Does coffee stunt your growth? I've never heard that. /:)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:10 am
by Tankman
It's just somethin i've heard from my parents

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:12 am
by RatchetMD
Tankman wrote:It's just somethin i've heard from my parents


They just didn't want you bouncing off the walls. :wink:

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:14 am
by Tankman
I'm hyper enough

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:34 am
by Briggs
Zinger wrote:Well, they could've just as easily have made Jazz NOT a Pontiac Solstice, and have chosen a bigger car for his Alt.Mode. But I suppose in Jazz's case they wanted to go with something small, sleek, and sexy.


Bay said that he wanted Jazz bigger, but he saved 3mil on the budget by making him a solstice, he didnt seem happy with his decision, but, money always takes priority.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:43 am
by Ravage XK
I dont get why Jazz had to die. As far as I could see he was torn in two. Why would that kill him?

If the TF life is its spark and the body is just a shell couldnt he have just got a new lower half of the body?

I find the whole concept of a robot dying a bit odd. Unless the brain or storage unit where its personality and memories are stored is destroyed then surley it can be put into another shell?

Maybe it just makes for better story telling?

Poor Jazz.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:45 am
by Tankman
Ravage XK wrote:I dont get why Jazz had to die. As far as I could see he was torn in two. Why would that kill him?

If the TF life is its spark and the body is just a shell couldnt he have just got a new lower half of the body?

I find the whole concept of a robot dying a bit odd. Unless the brain or storage unit where its personality and memories are stored is destroyed then surley it can be put into another shell?

Maybe it just makes for better story telling?

Poor Jazz.


It's just stupid. Frenzy got his head choped off and he some how managed to survive

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:48 am
by Ravage XK
Tankman wrote:
Ravage XK wrote:I dont get why Jazz had to die. As far as I could see he was torn in two. Why would that kill him?

If the TF life is its spark and the body is just a shell couldnt he have just got a new lower half of the body?

I find the whole concept of a robot dying a bit odd. Unless the brain or storage unit where its personality and memories are stored is destroyed then surley it can be put into another shell?

Maybe it just makes for better story telling?

Poor Jazz.


It's just stupid. Frenzy got his head choped off and he some how managed to survive


Yes he did! I forgot about that. Perhaps there is hope for Jazz yet?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:52 am
by Tankman
He probably shut down so he won't use up his energy and just needs to be reactivated