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Dinobots and construticons to much?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:11 pm
by Blasterscream
I honestly think that all the dinobots are to much to add In one movie. Most people only kmow about Grimlock. I think they should add him and like 2 cars(wheeljack and prowl).

I think the same with the construticons. First of all there really hard to do now with the devastator/brawl mix up. That mix up tho allows for the combaticons, but that would be alot to. So they would have to do Bruticus only or they dont add anyone new but the combaticons.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:03 am
by Tramp
I don't see a problem with having all of the Dinobots or all of the Constructicons. Besides, both theams are what a lot of fans would kill to see, especially the Constructicons forming Devastator. To see that in live action would be insanely intense.

Re: Dinobots and construticons to much?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:02 am
by Justicity
Blasterscream wrote:I honestly think that all the dinobots are to much to add In one movie. Most people only kmow about Grimlock. I think they should add him and like 2 cars(wheeljack and prowl).

I think the same with the construticons. First of all there really hard to do now with the devastator/brawl mix up. That mix up tho allows for the combaticons, but that would be alot to. So they would have to do Bruticus only or they dont add anyone new but the combaticons.

Just because the constructicons form Devestator in G1, does he need to be called that in the movie?
Couldn't there be Hook, Long Haul, Bonecrusher, Scavenger, Mixmaster & Scrapper, seing Bonecrusher revived in a new, G1 coloured body. Then the six (or even just five, without Bonecrusher) could merge & form "the Constructicons".

Why does everything have to be a reference to G1?

Re: Dinobots and construticons to much?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:08 am
by Toyotus Superion
Justicity wrote:
Blasterscream wrote:I honestly think that all the dinobots are to much to add In one movie. Most people only kmow about Grimlock. I think they should add him and like 2 cars(wheeljack and prowl).

I think the same with the construticons. First of all there really hard to do now with the devastator/brawl mix up. That mix up tho allows for the combaticons, but that would be alot to. So they would have to do Bruticus only or they dont add anyone new but the combaticons.

Just because the constructicons form Devestator in G1, does he need to be called that in the movie?
Couldn't there be Hook, Long Haul, Bonecrusher, Scavenger, Mixmaster & Scrapper, seing Bonecrusher revived in a new, G1 coloured body. Then the six (or even just five, without Bonecrusher) could merge & form "the Constructicons".

Why does everything have to be a reference to G1?


I'm with you. This is a new retelling. We dont need everything to reference g1. And enough with all the autobots being cars. Lets see some helicopters, motorcycles, etc. And the dinobots.......how the hell would they be "hiding" as giant metal dinosaurs?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:22 am
by Insurgent
Well, my fanfic currently working on has Grimlock as a cybertronian tank which they call a 'T-rex Battle Tank' to give it it's full name (From the air, it's shaped like a T). I just don't see how you could feasibly get a giant metal dinosaur into a supposedly 'realistic' movie.

And the original constructicons are in, but Bonecrusher has been replaced by a giant drill called Drill-Bitt. Reference G1 certainly. But don't stick to it completely.

Re: Dinobots and construticons to much?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:36 am
by bookofjunon
Justicity wrote:
Blasterscream wrote:I honestly think that all the dinobots are to much to add In one movie. Most people only kmow about Grimlock. I think they should add him and like 2 cars(wheeljack and prowl).

I think the same with the construticons. First of all there really hard to do now with the devastator/brawl mix up. That mix up tho allows for the combaticons, but that would be alot to. So they would have to do Bruticus only or they dont add anyone new but the combaticons.

Just because the constructicons form Devestator in G1, does he need to be called that in the movie?
Couldn't there be Hook, Long Haul, Bonecrusher, Scavenger, Mixmaster & Scrapper, seing Bonecrusher revived in a new, G1 coloured body. Then the six (or even just five, without Bonecrusher) could merge & form "the Constructicons".

Why does everything have to be a reference to G1?


Because that's what they are. Are you smoking something dude? I mean seriously, what the hell is the point of putting in the constructicons if they don't form Devastator? What's the point of Dinobots if they aren't Dinosaurs? This is a new universe, yes, a retelling yes, but it is HEAVILY based on G1. Why is it some people still can't accept that fact. The constructicons forming Devastator in a battle with the Dinobots is something that will make retarded amounts of money, far more than six construction vehicles who simply get their asses handed to them with out combining against a tank and 2 new cars.

Re: Dinobots and construticons to much?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:13 am
by Thanatos Prime
bookofjunon wrote:
Justicity wrote:
Blasterscream wrote:I honestly think that all the dinobots are to much to add In one movie. Most people only kmow about Grimlock. I think they should add him and like 2 cars(wheeljack and prowl).

I think the same with the construticons. First of all there really hard to do now with the devastator/brawl mix up. That mix up tho allows for the combaticons, but that would be alot to. So they would have to do Bruticus only or they dont add anyone new but the combaticons.

Just because the constructicons form Devestator in G1, does he need to be called that in the movie?
Couldn't there be Hook, Long Haul, Bonecrusher, Scavenger, Mixmaster & Scrapper, seing Bonecrusher revived in a new, G1 coloured body. Then the six (or even just five, without Bonecrusher) could merge & form "the Constructicons".

Why does everything have to be a reference to G1?


Because that's what they are. Are you smoking something dude? I mean seriously, what the hell is the point of putting in the constructicons if they don't form Devastator? What's the point of Dinobots if they aren't Dinosaurs? This is a new universe, yes, a retelling yes, but it is HEAVILY based on G1. Why is it some people still can't accept that fact. The constructicons forming Devastator in a battle with the Dinobots is something that will make retarded amounts of money, far more than six construction vehicles who simply get their asses handed to them with out combining against a tank and 2 new cars.


QFT

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:30 am
by Sign Of The Cross
Since Blackout and Brawl are parts that look very similar to Bruticus I can them being revived making the combiner Bruticus at some point in the series.

I'm sure they can figure out a way to fit Dinobots in. Maybe discovering alien robots in ice that arrived millions of years before Megatron was found. I like the idea of having Grimlock in the movie, I think they could make him look pretty cool. But you have to make a good story for all these outlandish characters.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:46 am
by Bigchin
I think those characters would be better off being saved till later in the series. I'd love to see a live action take on a combining team but there's always the danger of character overload, Batman & Robin style. Dunno how a Dinobot origin would work in this continuity either... Would be cool, though.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:24 pm
by DevastaTTor
Bigchin wrote:I think those characters would be better off being saved till later in the series. I'd love to see a live action take on a combining team but there's always the danger of character overload, Batman & Robin style. Dunno how a Dinobot origin would work in this continuity either... Would be cool, though.


Well, if the dinos are less intelligent, then if they accidentally landed in some sort of museum exhibit, it could be easy to see them walking out as big metal dinosaurs. I can envision them having a good laugh as the people are running away from them.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:26 pm
by Night Raid
DevastaTTor wrote:
Bigchin wrote:I think those characters would be better off being saved till later in the series. I'd love to see a live action take on a combining team but there's always the danger of character overload, Batman & Robin style. Dunno how a Dinobot origin would work in this continuity either... Would be cool, though.


Well, if the dinos are less intelligent, then if they accidentally landed in some sort of museum exhibit, it could be easy to see them walking out as big metal dinosaurs. I can envision them having a good laugh as the people are running away from them.


That would be awesome!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:33 pm
by Bigchin
Night Raid wrote:
DevastaTTor wrote:
Bigchin wrote:I think those characters would be better off being saved till later in the series. I'd love to see a live action take on a combining team but there's always the danger of character overload, Batman & Robin style. Dunno how a Dinobot origin would work in this continuity either... Would be cool, though.


Well, if the dinos are less intelligent, then if they accidentally landed in some sort of museum exhibit, it could be easy to see them walking out as big metal dinosaurs. I can envision them having a good laugh as the people are running away from them.


That would be awesome!


But the scanning we've seen so far has included all the interior car parts and what not that then become a part of the robot mode. How would that work for a dinosaur exhibit?
Then again the comics fudged the previously mechanical probe scan to include organic life, so...

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:00 pm
by Tramp
Bigchin wrote:
Night Raid wrote:
DevastaTTor wrote:
Bigchin wrote:I think those characters would be better off being saved till later in the series. I'd love to see a live action take on a combining team but there's always the danger of character overload, Batman & Robin style. Dunno how a Dinobot origin would work in this continuity either... Would be cool, though.


Well, if the dinos are less intelligent, then if they accidentally landed in some sort of museum exhibit, it could be easy to see them walking out as big metal dinosaurs. I can envision them having a good laugh as the people are running away from them.


That would be awesome!


But the scanning we've seen so far has included all the interior car parts and what not that then become a part of the robot mode. How would that work for a dinosaur exhibit?
Then again the comics fudged the previously mechanical probe scan to include organic life, so...


This is true, but then again, look at Skorponok. His "alternate" mode was a mechanical beast form—a scorpion, yet he still had his mechanical parts. There is no reason why the Dinobots wouldn't work the same

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:01 pm
by DevastaTTor
Bigchin wrote:
Night Raid wrote:
DevastaTTor wrote:
Bigchin wrote:I think those characters would be better off being saved till later in the series. I'd love to see a live action take on a combining team but there's always the danger of character overload, Batman & Robin style. Dunno how a Dinobot origin would work in this continuity either... Would be cool, though.


Well, if the dinos are less intelligent, then if they accidentally landed in some sort of museum exhibit, it could be easy to see them walking out as big metal dinosaurs. I can envision them having a good laugh as the people are running away from them.


That would be awesome!


But the scanning we've seen so far has included all the interior car parts and what not that then become a part of the robot mode. How would that work for a dinosaur exhibit?
Then again the comics fudged the previously mechanical probe scan to include organic life, so...


Animatronic Dinos?

Re: Dinobots and construticons to much?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:03 pm
by Justicity
bookofjunon wrote:
Justicity wrote:
Blasterscream wrote:I honestly think that all the dinobots are to much to add In one movie. Most people only kmow about Grimlock. I think they should add him and like 2 cars(wheeljack and prowl).

I think the same with the construticons. First of all there really hard to do now with the devastator/brawl mix up. That mix up tho allows for the combaticons, but that would be alot to. So they would have to do Bruticus only or they dont add anyone new but the combaticons.

Just because the constructicons form Devestator in G1, does he need to be called that in the movie?
Couldn't there be Hook, Long Haul, Bonecrusher, Scavenger, Mixmaster & Scrapper, seing Bonecrusher revived in a new, G1 coloured body. Then the six (or even just five, without Bonecrusher) could merge & form "the Constructicons".

Why does everything have to be a reference to G1?


Because that's what they are. Are you smoking something dude? I mean seriously, what the hell is the point of putting in the constructicons if they don't form Devastator? What's the point of Dinobots if they aren't Dinosaurs? This is a new universe, yes, a retelling yes, but it is HEAVILY based on G1. Why is it some people still can't accept that fact. The constructicons forming Devastator in a battle with the Dinobots is something that will make retarded amounts of money, far more than six construction vehicles who simply get their asses handed to them with out combining against a tank and 2 new cars.

Just to let you know (because your "against a tank and 2 new cars" comment unjustly puts down my point) I am completely PRO dinobots being Dinosaurs. Hell I've even invented at least 15 ways for them to come into being!

To respond to your actual point, yes this is a retelling of G1, however it's not an exact carbon copy. What the hell difference does it make whether the huge fekin robot made of 6 mini bots is called Devestator, Crushybot or nothing at all? As long as theres some kick-ass CGI & some huge dinosaurs fighting it. The whole name thing is really trivial anyway seeing as the transformers are from a different planet, where the word "devastator" doesn't even exist. Yes it's important for individual characters, so they can be identified, spoken to, & spoken about. However when were talking about six individually named robots, all in a group called the "constructicons", a name for the gestalt really isn't important.

The constructicons merging & forming a gestalt, then fighting a load of huge robotic dinosaurs will make stupendous amounts of money NO MATTER WHAT THE GESTALT IS CALLED.

And as the name Devastator has already been used, incorrectly, for Brawl, even if they do change it for the DVD, the people who went to see the movie but didn't buy the DVD or read the forums/announcements will be quite confused. "Dad, wasn't the tank in the first film called Devastator?"

Re: Dinobots and construticons to much?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:07 pm
by DevastaTTor
Justicity wrote:
bookofjunon wrote:
Justicity wrote:
Blasterscream wrote:I honestly think that all the dinobots are to much to add In one movie. Most people only kmow about Grimlock. I think they should add him and like 2 cars(wheeljack and prowl).

I think the same with the construticons. First of all there really hard to do now with the devastator/brawl mix up. That mix up tho allows for the combaticons, but that would be alot to. So they would have to do Bruticus only or they dont add anyone new but the combaticons.

Just because the constructicons form Devestator in G1, does he need to be called that in the movie?
Couldn't there be Hook, Long Haul, Bonecrusher, Scavenger, Mixmaster & Scrapper, seing Bonecrusher revived in a new, G1 coloured body. Then the six (or even just five, without Bonecrusher) could merge & form "the Constructicons".

Why does everything have to be a reference to G1?


Because that's what they are. Are you smoking something dude? I mean seriously, what the hell is the point of putting in the constructicons if they don't form Devastator? What's the point of Dinobots if they aren't Dinosaurs? This is a new universe, yes, a retelling yes, but it is HEAVILY based on G1. Why is it some people still can't accept that fact. The constructicons forming Devastator in a battle with the Dinobots is something that will make retarded amounts of money, far more than six construction vehicles who simply get their asses handed to them with out combining against a tank and 2 new cars.

Just to let you know (because your "against a tank and 2 new cars" comment unjustly puts down my point) I am completely PRO dinobots being Dinosaurs. Hell I've even invented at least 15 ways for them to come into being!

To respond to your actual point, yes this is a retelling of G1, however it's not an exact carbon copy. What the hell difference does it make whether the huge fekin robot made of 6 mini bots is called Devestator, Crushybot or nothing at all? As long as theres some kick-ass CGI & some huge dinosaurs fighting it. The whole name thing is really trivial anyway seeing as the transformers are from a different planet, where the word "devastator" doesn't even exist. Yes it's important for individual characters, so they can be identified, spoken to, & spoken about. However when were talking about six individually named robots, all in a group called the "constructicons", a name for the gestalt really isn't important.

The constructicons merging & forming a gestalt, then fighting a load of huge robotic dinosaurs will make stupendous amounts of money NO MATTER WHAT THE GESTALT IS CALLED.

And as the name Devastator has already been used, incorrectly, for Brawl, even if they do change it for the DVD, the people who went to see the movie but didn't buy the DVD or read the forums/announcements will be quite confused. "Dad, wasn't the tank in the first film called Devastator?"


Since they actually never say his name and it only flashes across the screen once, will people other than fans really remember two-three years from now?

Re: Dinobots and construticons to much?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:08 pm
by DevastaTTor
Justicity wrote:
Blasterscream wrote:I honestly think that all the dinobots are to much to add In one movie. Most people only kmow about Grimlock. I think they should add him and like 2 cars(wheeljack and prowl).

I think the same with the construticons. First of all there really hard to do now with the devastator/brawl mix up. That mix up tho allows for the combaticons, but that would be alot to. So they would have to do Bruticus only or they dont add anyone new but the combaticons.

Just because the constructicons form Devestator in G1, does he need to be called that in the movie?
Couldn't there be Hook, Long Haul, Bonecrusher, Scavenger, Mixmaster & Scrapper, seing Bonecrusher revived in a new, G1 coloured body. Then the six (or even just five, without Bonecrusher) could merge & form "the Constructicons".

Why does everything have to be a reference to G1?


Yep, there's nothing to say that when more Decepticons come to Earth searching for the fallen guys, 4-5 of them could be brothers/team members of the current Bonecrusher.

Re: Dinobots and construticons to much?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:22 pm
by bookofjunon
Justicity wrote:
bookofjunon wrote:
Justicity wrote:
Blasterscream wrote:I honestly think that all the dinobots are to much to add In one movie. Most people only kmow about Grimlock. I think they should add him and like 2 cars(wheeljack and prowl).

I think the same with the construticons. First of all there really hard to do now with the devastator/brawl mix up. That mix up tho allows for the combaticons, but that would be alot to. So they would have to do Bruticus only or they dont add anyone new but the combaticons.

Just because the constructicons form Devestator in G1, does he need to be called that in the movie?
Couldn't there be Hook, Long Haul, Bonecrusher, Scavenger, Mixmaster & Scrapper, seing Bonecrusher revived in a new, G1 coloured body. Then the six (or even just five, without Bonecrusher) could merge & form "the Constructicons".

Why does everything have to be a reference to G1?


Because that's what they are. Are you smoking something dude? I mean seriously, what the hell is the point of putting in the constructicons if they don't form Devastator? What's the point of Dinobots if they aren't Dinosaurs? This is a new universe, yes, a retelling yes, but it is HEAVILY based on G1. Why is it some people still can't accept that fact. The constructicons forming Devastator in a battle with the Dinobots is something that will make retarded amounts of money, far more than six construction vehicles who simply get their asses handed to them with out combining against a tank and 2 new cars.

Just to let you know (because your "against a tank and 2 new cars" comment unjustly puts down my point) I am completely PRO dinobots being Dinosaurs. Hell I've even invented at least 15 ways for them to come into being!

To respond to your actual point, yes this is a retelling of G1, however it's not an exact carbon copy. What the hell difference does it make whether the huge fekin robot made of 6 mini bots is called Devestator, Crushybot or nothing at all? As long as theres some kick-ass CGI & some huge dinosaurs fighting it. The whole name thing is really trivial anyway seeing as the transformers are from a different planet, where the word "devastator" doesn't even exist. Yes it's important for individual characters, so they can be identified, spoken to, & spoken about. However when were talking about six individually named robots, all in a group called the "constructicons", a name for the gestalt really isn't important.

The constructicons merging & forming a gestalt, then fighting a load of huge robotic dinosaurs will make stupendous amounts of money NO MATTER WHAT THE GESTALT IS CALLED.

And as the name Devastator has already been used, incorrectly, for Brawl, even if they do change it for the DVD, the people who went to see the movie but didn't buy the DVD or read the forums/announcements will be quite confused. "Dad, wasn't the tank in the first film called Devastator?"


And your point is???

No one is going to remember the name devastator or frankly, even care it was some nobody tank in the first movie.

Are smoking what Justicity is?

I mean really, that is the point. Hasbro already owns the copyrights to said names, therefore why would they not use them?

Your point makes no sense dude, sorry.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:30 pm
by Tramp
To add to what DevastaTor and the others have said, The use of the name Devastator in the movie was an error. and this was confirmed by Hasbro at BotCon. As far back as last August Everyone knoew the name was Brawl[/b], and that the name [i]Devastator was juat a place-holder name. Someone screwed up when doing the subtitling and used the wrong name. It will most likely be corrected on the DVD releases.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:42 pm
by Bigchin
Tramp wrote:
This is true, but then again, look at Skorponok. His "alternate" mode was a mechanical beast form—a scorpion, yet he still had his mechanical parts. There is no reason why the Dinobots wouldn't work the same


Ohhhhhh yeah...

Re: Dinobots and construticons to much?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:50 pm
by Justicity
bookofjunon wrote:
Justicity wrote:Just to let you know (because your "against a tank and 2 new cars" comment unjustly puts down my point) I am completely PRO dinobots being Dinosaurs. Hell I've even invented at least 15 ways for them to come into being!

To respond to your actual point, yes this is a retelling of G1, however it's not an exact carbon copy. What the hell difference does it make whether the huge fekin robot made of 6 mini bots is called Devestator, Crushybot or nothing at all? As long as theres some kick-ass CGI & some huge dinosaurs fighting it. The whole name thing is really trivial anyway seeing as the transformers are from a different planet, where the word "devastator" doesn't even exist. Yes it's important for individual characters, so they can be identified, spoken to, & spoken about. However when were talking about six individually named robots, all in a group called the "constructicons", a name for the gestalt really isn't important.

The constructicons merging & forming a gestalt, then fighting a load of huge robotic dinosaurs will make stupendous amounts of money NO MATTER WHAT THE GESTALT IS CALLED.

And as the name Devastator has already been used, incorrectly, for Brawl, even if they do change it for the DVD, the people who went to see the movie but didn't buy the DVD or read the forums/announcements will be quite confused. "Dad, wasn't the tank in the first film called Devastator?"


And your point is???

No one is going to remember the name devastator or frankly, even care it was some nobody tank in the first movie.

Are smoking what Justicity is?

I mean really, that is the point. Hasbro already owns the copyrights to said names, therefore why would they not use them?

Your point makes no sense dude, sorry.

Ok.... If thats supposed to be "are you smoking what Justicity's smoking" then.... yes, I AM Justicity.... whatever XD

I guess you do make a good point, nobody really will remember that, but that wasn't exactly my point... If you read the whole post you'd see what my point is:

The constructicons merging & forming a gestalt, then fighting a load of huge robotic dinosaurs will make stupendous amounts of money NO MATTER WHAT THE GESTALT IS CALLED.


Out of discussion: (I just remembered why I hate the Movie forum, Movie n00bs are idiots XD)

Re: Dinobots and construticons to much?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:37 am
by bookofjunon
Justicity wrote:
bookofjunon wrote:
Justicity wrote:Just to let you know (because your "against a tank and 2 new cars" comment unjustly puts down my point) I am completely PRO dinobots being Dinosaurs. Hell I've even invented at least 15 ways for them to come into being!

To respond to your actual point, yes this is a retelling of G1, however it's not an exact carbon copy. What the hell difference does it make whether the huge fekin robot made of 6 mini bots is called Devestator, Crushybot or nothing at all? As long as theres some kick-ass CGI & some huge dinosaurs fighting it. The whole name thing is really trivial anyway seeing as the transformers are from a different planet, where the word "devastator" doesn't even exist. Yes it's important for individual characters, so they can be identified, spoken to, & spoken about. However when were talking about six individually named robots, all in a group called the "constructicons", a name for the gestalt really isn't important.

The constructicons merging & forming a gestalt, then fighting a load of huge robotic dinosaurs will make stupendous amounts of money NO MATTER WHAT THE GESTALT IS CALLED.

And as the name Devastator has already been used, incorrectly, for Brawl, even if they do change it for the DVD, the people who went to see the movie but didn't buy the DVD or read the forums/announcements will be quite confused. "Dad, wasn't the tank in the first film called Devastator?"


And your point is???

No one is going to remember the name devastator or frankly, even care it was some nobody tank in the first movie.

Are smoking what Justicity is?

I mean really, that is the point. Hasbro already owns the copyrights to said names, therefore why would they not use them?

Your point makes no sense dude, sorry.

Ok.... If thats supposed to be "are you smoking what Justicity's smoking" then.... yes, I AM Justicity.... whatever XD

I guess you do make a good point, nobody really will remember that, but that wasn't exactly my point... If you read the whole post you'd see what my point is:

The constructicons merging & forming a gestalt, then fighting a load of huge robotic dinosaurs will make stupendous amounts of money NO MATTER WHAT THE GESTALT IS CALLED.


Out of discussion: (I just remembered why I hate the Movie forum, Movie n00bs are idiots XD)


I'm not a noob first of all, I have been with Transformers since Diaclone became G1. I've also been a member of the forum for a long time I just rarely post.

And remember before you go calling someone a noob, 400 and some posts does not make you a veteran.