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Question about the car chase

Posted:
Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:25 pm
by Agent 007
Sence I haven't started driving quite I have a question reguarding the Barricade BB chase. Could a 77 camaro outrun a Saleen Mustang? Something tells me it couldn't, but Im not sure of the horsepowers.I just think that the Camaro would easily be pasable,can anyone help me out?


Posted:
Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:28 pm
by DavidT
In real life....perhaps not unless the camaro has been modified
But in the movie we see that Bumbleebee has a super sleek powerful engine, which really doesn't matter anyway cuz he's a robotic alien from outerspace


Posted:
Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:29 pm
by Ironhider
With all that good motor crap that Michaela Was talking about it might have been able to go as fast if not faster than barricade.

Posted:
Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:35 pm
by Agent 007
Ironhider wrote:With all that good motor crap that Michaela Was talking about it might have been able to go as fast if not faster than barricade.
see i don't know cause Barricade has a turbocharged V8 if I'm not mistaken I think BB has a V8 too but I'm not sure

Posted:
Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:48 pm
by prowl24
Bumblebee's engine is extremely awesome, said Mikaela when she looked at the engine.

Posted:
Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:59 pm
by Sherade
It depends. If you mean the BB Camaro, than possibly. If not (unless it has been modified) yeah right.
Of course, it's the driver, not the car.

Posted:
Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:21 pm
by Barricade
Sherade wrote:Of course, it's the driver, not the car.
QFT i've beat many a V6 car with my 110+ hp Hyundai Accent GT just by out driving them......
v6 cars = honda accords, hyundai tiburon, and once a ford mustang.... only cause it slide in the gravel and got stuck in the suger sand and i drifted past him..... but hey a "W" is a "W" no matter how you get it


Posted:
Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:01 pm
by fnlrun
Mr.Bond007 wrote:Ironhider wrote:With all that good motor crap that Michaela Was talking about it might have been able to go as fast if not faster than barricade.
see i don't know cause Barricade has a turbocharged V8 if I'm not mistaken I think BB has a V8 too but I'm not sure
Its actually a supercharger in Barricade, and the "high rise double pumper" carb, are a dime a dozen. That mustang would eat that 77 Camaro. The engine that was showed in Bumblebee was also a fuel injected engine, so that means the "double pumper carb" would be a hugh automotive flaw in the movie.
Just another piece of gee wiz info--Bumblee was actually a GTO with the new Camaro body panels on it.

Posted:
Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:12 pm
by autobot commander
fnlrun wrote:Mr.Bond007 wrote:Ironhider wrote:With all that good motor crap that Michaela Was talking about it might have been able to go as fast if not faster than barricade.
see i don't know cause Barricade has a turbocharged V8 if I'm not mistaken I think BB has a V8 too but I'm not sure
Its actually a supercharger in Barricade, and the "high rise double pumper" carb, are a dime a dozen. That mustang would eat that 77 Camaro. The engine that was showed in Bumblebee was also a fuel injected engine, so that means the "double pumper carb" would be a hugh automotive flaw in the movie.
Just another piece of gee wiz info--Bumblee was actually a GTO with the new Camaro body panels on it.
but bumbleebee's eninge would squirt the luquid in so it would go faster

Posted:
Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:27 pm
by Swerve
The way I see it, the engines are inconsequential. They are both just disguises for Cybertronians. The difference between the Saleen Mustang and the Camaro are probably more or less the difference in Barricadde and Bemblebee's abilities. Think more along the lines of athletes outperforming each other.

Posted:
Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:43 pm
by fnlrun
Swerve wrote:The way I see it, the engines are inconsequential. They are both just disguises for Cybertronians. The difference between the Saleen Mustang and the Camaro are probably more or less the difference in Barricadde and Bemblebee's abilities. Think more along the lines of athletes outperforming each other.
If your just refering it to being a movie line I will completly agree with you, but if it is car for car in real life, your dead wrong.

Posted:
Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:46 pm
by Sherade
Cujo wrote:Sherade wrote:Of course, it's the driver, not the car.
QFT i've beat many a V6 car with my 110+ hp Hyundai Accent GT just by out driving them......
v6 cars = honda accords, hyundai tiburon, and once a ford mustang.... only cause it slide in the gravel and got stuck in the suger sand and i drifted past him..... but hey a "W" is a "W" no matter how you get it

Exactly, some people just can't drive.


Posted:
Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:39 pm
by Swerve
fnlrun wrote:Swerve wrote:The way I see it, the engines are inconsequential. They are both just disguises for Cybertronians. The difference between the Saleen Mustang and the Camaro are probably more or less the difference in Barricadde and Bemblebee's abilities. Think more along the lines of athletes outperforming each other.
If your just refering it to being a movie line I will completly agree with you, but if it is car for car in real life, your dead wrong.
No, I meant that these guys aren't really cars so it just boils down to Barricade and Bumblebee's abilities as to whether one can outrun the other.

Posted:
Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:59 pm
by Nightracer GT
F22 Raptors can't fly up into space either, but Starscream did it at the end.
They're transformers from Cybertron. They only look like real vehicles.

Posted:
Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:59 am
by Pontimax 01
fnlrun wrote:Mr.Bond007 wrote:Ironhider wrote:With all that good motor crap that Michaela Was talking about it might have been able to go as fast if not faster than barricade.
see i don't know cause Barricade has a turbocharged V8 if I'm not mistaken I think BB has a V8 too but I'm not sure
Its actually a supercharger in Barricade, and the "high rise double pumper" carb, are a dime a dozen. That mustang would eat that 77 Camaro. The engine that was showed in Bumblebee was also a fuel injected engine, so that means the "double pumper carb" would be a hugh automotive flaw in the movie.
Just another piece of gee wiz info--Bumblee was actually a GTO with the new Camaro body panels on it.
More info - Barricade- The filming cars had all the dressups that a 281 gets, but still retained the stock Mustang GT engine, so he was only cranking 300hp. The 76 Camaros on the other hand all had new 330hp 350ci crate motors dropped in with the aforementioned fuel injection. So technically the Camaros did have more power.

How that chassis handled with it, I don't know. The body was probably squealing and twisting.

Posted:
Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:49 pm
by First Gen
I think it was because bumblebee was the good guy and he was a Chevy that HAD to beat a Ford. IMO.

Posted:
Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:07 pm
by RodimalToyota
that camaro motor Had ITB's and if im not mistake a prototype TBI intake manifold from a few years back.
i would say the motor under the hood when she opens it would be pushing over 400Hp easly with that setup.
the Saleen was a 281 delivered from Saleen, and if im not mistaken it too is over 400hp with the Supercharger.
you can hear the Superchared engine in the move. Saleen engines sound like sex.
its a drivers race with those cars, but i would bet on Barricade since it is newer and was designed for the power it wields.

Posted:
Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:09 pm
by fnlrun
First Gen wrote:I think it was because bumblebee was the good guy and he was a Chevy that HAD to beat a Ford. IMO.
best damn answer so far!!!!
and to answer the TBI question, that was a bone stock 350 CID motor, it was clearly stated in the auction and there was noting prototype on it.. The problem is the motor they showed in the movie is VERY different from what is actually in there. CamaroZ28.com had a complete discussion of the differences and the manufactuer of the better motor.

Posted:
Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:29 am
by fnlrun
it just dawned on me, are we talking about the 3rd Generation Camaro or the 5th? Cause I've been talking about the 3rd


Posted:
Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:55 pm
by Agent 007
fnlrun wrote:it just dawned on me, are we talking about the 3rd Generation Camaro or the 5th? Cause I've been talking about the 3rd

the 3rd there was no chase with the 5th gen