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Picked this up when surfing the web


http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b340/ ... edia=image

To me he looks BADASS!! but i don't see much of megatron in that thing

Bah. I expected something WAAAY more badass then this. Thumbs down from me.

Looks like an assemblage of scrapmetal.

WHAT THE HELL?!?!?!is that a transmetal predator?i was forgiving on fatscream,but this is terrible.i get the very vague sense of a helmet and not much else.where is the flipping fusion cannon?!

YAY!!! They are finally making a metal swamp thing......waitaminute Megatron SUCKS A$$

I'm getting the feeling that they will make the transformations happen really quickly with all the parts split up all over the place to avoid "real" transformations so your eyes just assume it changed like they used to!

where megatron????

wow i am a bit shock, but i have to wait and see the trailer before say bad thing on megs

who know, megatron might be ugly but the graphic and the story might be good!

so i am not losing hope!

let's stay positive people.... for now ahahhahaha

well they are trying to steer towards a more alien look, and megs looks pretty damn alien to me

Mest4life135 wrote:well they are trying to steer towards a more alien look, and megs looks pretty damn alien to me

There's is such a thing as too much of a good thing though

they've lost that Megs mojo!

Dark_Fool wrote:they've lost that Megs mojo!

*sings*
"You've lost that lovin' feeling. Woah-oh, that loving feeling...."

*sings*"now its gone,gone,gone...whoa oh a whoa"

Mest4life135 wrote:well they are trying to steer towards a more alien look, and megs looks pretty damn alien to me

while i get the whole thing of the alien look,even optimus and bb still resemble vaguely their original incarnations.like i said in my previous post,nothing about this design is remniscent of any megs except for the fact he is silver.when i first heard about the jet concept i figured something of an amalgam of g1 and energon

looks cool, til u find out its supposed to be megs...then its heartbreaking.

This is the worse Megatron ever...

I realy hate this concept... In one word... SUCKS!

And Waspinstarscream sucks a lot too.

I was bored today and I spent a lot of time reading through the boards. Found a whole lot of bitching about the movie, the designs, the toys...

Along the way I came accross this. http://www.Seibertron.com/

All the old Megatron figures vs. the movie concept. And I have to ask a question. What makes Megatron, Megatron? Is it the helmet? Is it a big gun? Is it a particular paint color? What is it about the new movie concept that has everyone thrown up in arms about not being Megatron. If the concept had a fusion cannon on his arm, would he be deemed acceptable?

Personally I think it's Megatrons attitude and personality that makes him the character I've liked since I was a kid. If they pull that off in the movie, I'd be perfectly content.

It has been stated since the begining that the movie is not G1. It's new and different and for that I'm excited about seeing it. Cybertron Megatron was different when he first came out. He wasn't a tank or a gun and everyone whinned about the colors but they still bought him and I think most people like him.

Personally the only thing I question about the movie concept is the Alt Mode. I don't mind the fact that it's a jet. But an Alien jet? Kind of defeats the whole purpose of "In Disguise" IMO. But that might also be integral to the plot. We'll have to see.

The thing that irritates me the most about Megatron, and the other movie TF's so far is that their robot modes bear little or no resemblence to their alternate modes. (By this I mean if hes a jet there should be some wing parts and stuff on him) So while Megatron looks cool, he doesn't do it for me because when I his alternate mode its not belivable that the robot turns into that jet, or whatever it's supposed to be. I think if they fix that, and as Lobo said nail the personality he will be great.

I love the new megs design!





I just wanted to be diffrent. Seriosly though after RID-cybertron, this one just doesn't bother me. I't be nice if he maybe had a face though. Looks too insect like. And where's arnold? I want to see Terminator vs Terminatorish looking Megatron.

I've not really posted about any of this but I think this was the last of it.

Prime and Bee, kinda, look like what they're supposed to but the rest just...Well, don't.

They're reasons don't make sense.

"We had to make them realistic, the arms coudln't be where the engines are..."

Okay, BS. Just because Prime happens to be a rig doesn't mean he HAS to have a big engine under the hood, he's an alien robot, it would make more sense for him to have something spiffy (energon powered engines , small ones, driving each wheel independantly, for example) then to think he'd carry a huge, primative (even by our standards) engine around just to "look right".

Next was the "they're alien war machines!" part.

Yes, they are. And it makes no sense for them to not have armor. They said that, armored, they'd look boring. Watch Patton. Tanks are nothing but one spinning box on top of another, but they can be made exciting. Watch Blackhawk Down, just people moving and it's exciting.

War machines would have armor, these don't. Even "battle mode" Megatron has little, if any, usable armor. The designs just don't make sense.

My next issue is with all the tribal crap. This went out of fashion, oh, 2 years ago. Yet Prime and Megatrong are both covered (look at Megatrons armor, all the bits are tribal shaped). This makes the movie look dated before the first frame of film is projected on the screen.

I don't care that the people involved want our opinions or not. But all of their latest postings show that they're surprised, hurt and dumbfounded by our reactions. None of us were expecting them to re-enact "More Then Meets The Eye" or the original movie. We knew it would be updated. The problem isn't with the fact that they're changing things.

The problem comes from the fact that they're hostile to anyone who isn't sucking up to them and that they've tossed the complete "Look And Feel" of the source material. They could have made Prime a moped and, had they tried hard enough, it could have worked.

This doesn't. No one I've showed the images to (outside of Prime and then it was only his head that gave it away) could tell me what these were supposed to be. No one believed me when I said Transformers. And, having seen it, they all recended their agreements to go see the movie with me when it comes out (I'm the only real "fan" out of everyone I know).

So these are the people that they're trying to get to see this, the NON-FAN. The hardcore, they're expecting, will show up no matter what, or that we're few enough that us not showing up won't matter. But the problem is that no one see's them as Transformers and I have yet to find anyone (IRL) who likes them.

I know ILM, Bay, et al, will scream that we're jumping the gun, etc. And, you know, we might be. But the problem is that's the way marketing works. We, as the consumer, can only go with what we see. And, so far, everything we've seen has been "meh" at best. Dig around the net, there isn't any site (other then bays forums, and even there he has detracters) on the net. No one likes the designs, not as Transformers. As "robots" they're okay. But as Transformers, they fail.

So I've gone from "must see opening night" to "will, maybe, see it on a sunday afternoon, for cheap". Why? Because the totality of what we've seen just doesn't add up to a good movie. Yes, we only havea few images, but the reactions from the people making the movie show me that it's only going to get worse. Not only were they surprised by our reactions, but they've no clue how to fix it.

They should have gotten a LARGE GROUP of people (fans and no) and worked on the designs. Why? Because they don't seem to understand what the "Spark" is that makes something a Transformer.

Will this movie fail? Right now, I think it will. I think it'll do okay opening weekend, might even go to #1 for a week. But it's going to end up not making back the money they want. Is it because it's going to be a bad movie? No, it'll probably be pretty good. It's because they took just the name of something and tossed the rest. This won't bring people in.

Especially when people who saw it opening night, call/e-mail/post their dis-satisfaction to everyone they know.

My advice? Spend the time and money to fix this. Armor up the robots, make them "feel" like transformers, not the Terminator. Change the Megatron, Starscream, etc, designs. Am I saying to make them look like G1? No, not by any means. But loose the dated trendy design and go with something that people can look at and go, "Oh, a Transformer!".

But they won't. What we've seen now shows nothing but ego, we hurt their pride by not liking it and they're pouting like spoiled children.

I don't care how much they had to give up of what they wanted in it. If you want people to pay to see it I'd advise actually listening to people who will see it many times and drag their family to see it.

Should we be pandered to? No. My issues with the flames on Prime aren't a dislike, it's that it's trendy and uncalled for. It's like parachute-pants. As soon as you see it, you know, it's from the 80's, and it'll suck.

No, go ahead and freshen it up. But if, in doing so, you throw away all the things that made them look/feel like Transformers, don't throw a tantrum, and pout, when fans, both casual and hardcore, don't like it. And, while not liking it, they tell everyone they can not to see it.

WOW! Nicely put. I agree whole heartedly with everything you just said.

well i showed my friend who hates transformers the movie concepts and he said he acutally thought it was gonna be kick ass, im thinkign the same but megs is just too damn weird. im alright with the design, but its his damn arms, the arms, are too scrawny and bent.

same with starscream, he looks liek one of the grunt soldiers from halo

Excellent job Pulse I feel exactly the same way

Well said Pulse


and Lobo, in regards to what you were saying about what makes Megs Megs..

I agree it's not the fusion canon, since some megs had twin canons, others had nothing and I think RID had swords or something didn't he?

Is it the helmet? nay, that has changed many times over the years.

You're right about it being personality, but personality is also shown in body language. One thing just about every Megatron had was a face that you could read the arrogance in not to mention his body had a very imperial feel about it. Not to mention the intelligence in the eyes.

But this thing they've made doesn't have any of that. His shape seems deformed, the face has nothing in it, no smarts, no nothing.
This Megatron designs fault is that it looks like a common grunt rather than the mighty dictator.


Well that's my rant.

That's very true DF. Faces do offer a lot to the personality of the bot. Maybe that's why I always hated Bumblebee in the cartoon. Come to think of it, from what when see so far of the movie concepts, none of them really have "human" like faces. Hopefully they get some more great voice actors for the remaining bots.

Also, excellent points you brought up Pulse. That's why I love this board! Good open minded discussions! Not a bunch of this sucks, that sucks, you suck for liking/not liking it, OMG! Michael Bay is destroying my childhood by forcing me to spend $8 to watch his movie just so I can bitch about it more.

Hobbyist Prime wrote:YAY!!! They are finally making a metal swamp thing......waitaminute Megatron SUCKS A$$

I'm getting the feeling that they will make the transformations happen really quickly with all the parts split up all over the place to avoid "real" transformations so your eyes just assume it changed like they used to!

I agree. Booooo.

not to mention the bad casting, now if you put van dam, segal, and chuck norris in there id pay to see that !!!

piranacon wrote:not to mention the bad casting, now if you put van dam, segal, and chuck norris in there id pay to see that !!!

id be happy with just chuck norris giving "megatron" a round house square to the face.