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Barricade survived too, and he's super stealthy now.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:58 pm
by Scaleface
He got so stealthy from the Allspark, we must have missed him in the last third of the movie. At least the Target "Allspark Power" box seems to imply that.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:20 pm
by Blurrz
This is the only teal-covered Target Exclusive i'll take to the bank. Seeing as Barricade never died, than perhaps his bio is canon.

But Jazz and Brawls Teal-covered decos can't truly explain how they're both living after one of them got ripped apart, and the other got shot more than he could shoot back.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:26 pm
by Omega Charge
Hey, kids don't wanna buy toys of characters that are dead. It's just a marketing thing.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:49 pm
by Scaleface
Omega Charge wrote:Hey, kids don't wanna buy toys of characters that are dead. It's just a marketing thing.


Did they learn that from Optimus Prime? When he died in the movie, no one ever bought another Optimus Prime.... wait minute...

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:21 am
by Omega Charge
Scaleface wrote:
Omega Charge wrote:Hey, kids don't wanna buy toys of characters that are dead. It's just a marketing thing.


Did they learn that from Optimus Prime? When he died in the movie, no one ever bought another Optimus Prime.... wait minute...

If you're being sarcastic...That Optimus Prime was a whole different character, and the whole point is they brought an Optimus Prime back anyway for the next line and the next and so on.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:36 am
by Lady_Prime
When is this Barricade supposed to come out?? I bet after the holidays.... :sad:

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:35 am
by Scaleface
Yes, these are probably the line of post-holiday toys. Most holiday toys are out by November or they don't come out until after Chirstmas. With this being the first leaked image, we can't expect to see them for a month at least I'd guess.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 11:46 am
by Uber Galvatron
Didnt Skorponok survive too?
I saw him go into the ground just after the last round the Humans fired on him
They just ripped the tail off.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:59 pm
by Scaleface
Yes, in fact that leaked script treatment for the second TF movie (which may or may not be very accurate to the finished product) had Scorponok returning.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:16 pm
by ShGarland_1383
Omega Charge wrote:Hey, kids don't wanna buy toys of characters that are dead. It's just a marketing thing.

I don't think you can prove Barricade is dead. If you go by the movie's faq page on imdb.com, he disappears after the freeway scene. Of course, they say there's an explanation for this in the novel, but why didn't this appear in the movie? The faq also says the writers hint at Barricade coming back for the next movie...

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:34 pm
by Tangent
Well, we can't say for sure if he will be back in the next movie or not, rumours are not much to go on, and writers do enjoy messing with people. :P

As for the toy, I kinda like the blue face, but I aint so keen on the rest of him. I hope he does return, but if he does he best look better than that :P

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:21 pm
by Tekka
Interesting power up, but the other Allspark power Decepticons will make fun of him.

"What power did you get from the Allspark, Barricade?"

"Well... it just made me really quiet..."

"Oh... *snort*."

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:29 pm
by Cyber Bishop
This debate is one more reason I cannot wait for TF2..
It may finally put to rest Barricade's true fate since the lines seem evenly divided.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:55 pm
by Jazz 4
HE must have survived the battle because i didn't see a part of him on that ship at the endof the movie. :-?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:47 pm
by Scaleface
Jazz 4 wrote:HE must have survived the battle because i didn't see a part of him on that ship at the endof the movie. :-?


...or he was dropped into the sea BEFORE Megatron.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 4:39 pm
by City Commander
As far as I know, Barricade only died in that comic.


For the movie they decided not to kill him off, and so removed the scene that had him killed.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:51 pm
by Omega Charge
Scaleface wrote:
Jazz 4 wrote:HE must have survived the battle because i didn't see a part of him on that ship at the endof the movie. :-?


...or he was dropped into the sea BEFORE Megatron.

:wink:

And about Scorponok, all that I saw was his tail, so that kinda confirms what you guys said.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 8:11 pm
by -Barricade-
I didnt see him fight anyone and never saw him die, and even if he is not in the 2nd film he could still show up in TFTM III.

I kinda doubt they killed him off without showing it.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 8:51 pm
by Blurrz
-Barricade- wrote:I didnt see him fight anyone and never saw him die, and even if he is not in the 2nd film he could still show up in TFTM III.

I kinda doubt they killed him off without showing it.


That's kinda taking it a little bit too far :P

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:03 pm
by Predacon Rampage
I like the Rumble colored Frenzy, but thats it, teal doesn't fit with any of the allspark line.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:22 pm
by Justicity
Predacon Rampage wrote:I like the Rumble colored Frenzy, but thats it, teal doesn't fit with any of the allspark line.

Or is that a real coloured Frenzy, with the previous Recon Frenzy just trying to copy Rumble to look cool?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:46 pm
by Kortex
BARRICADE ACTUALLY DIES!!!! IN THE COMICS!!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:30 pm
by Blurrz
Kortex wrote:BARRICADE ACTUALLY DIES!!!! IN THE COMICS!!!!


Comics aren't always canon to what actually happens with Transformers.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:21 am
by Scaleface
Blurrz wrote:
Kortex wrote:BARRICADE ACTUALLY DIES!!!! IN THE COMICS!!!!


Comics aren't always canon to what actually happens with Transformers.


Actually by definition they are, as both are officially licensed, but it is more accurate to say the comics and the movie are not always the SAME.

Barricade was depicted as dying right after Bonecrusher in the comics and novel. His death scene was removed from the film. The kids novel "Meet the Decepticons" had Barricade survive and leave the planet after loosing the fight for the allspark. The tech specs had Barricade survive and get an allspark upgrade to his body, resulting in super-stealth powers. All are official.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:16 pm
by ShGarland_1383
Scaleface wrote:
Blurrz wrote:
Kortex wrote:BARRICADE ACTUALLY DIES!!!! IN THE COMICS!!!!


Comics aren't always canon to what actually happens with Transformers.


Actually by definition they are, as both are officially licensed, but it is more accurate to say the comics and the movie are not always the SAME.

Barricade was depicted as dying right after Bonecrusher in the comics and novel. His death scene was removed from the film. The kids novel "Meet the Decepticons" had Barricade survive and leave the planet after loosing the fight for the allspark. The tech specs had Barricade survive and get an allspark upgrade to his body, resulting in super-stealth powers. All are official.

The fact there are so many different spins on what did or didn't happen is exactly why all these writer-type people would get on the same page and have their stories match up. Not likely gonna happen since the events of the G1 comic didn't always match up with the animation either, just my wishful thinking.