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shootfortheedit has posted Michael Bay's respopnse to recent rumours that he will not be doing TF3. It turns out that he isn't quitting. Michael Bay says:

"Hah, love press how they spin. Never said it - just wanted a vacation is more to the point.

And no I don't read the good or the bad reviews."

I posted that in the thread about him quitting 24 hours ago.

Sorry Robinson, the movie forum isn't one of my normal haunts. I've added you to the credits.

I for one, don't mind this. Like it or hate it, at least this'll ensure that TF Movies will be consistent in between one another.

Mkall wrote:Sorry Robinson, the movie forum isn't one of my normal haunts. I've added you to the credits.

I for one, don't mind this. Like it or hate it, at least this'll ensure that TF Movies will be consistent in between one another.

No biggie, I just posted it so that ppl would shut up about him quitting.


Didn't work.

I figured, the Press was doing something BS, but i heard some rumors already about the final film, on a MTV interview with Megan Fox and Shia, Grimlock and the fellow Dinobots will make and finally( i hope so) that they will be in the final film along with Galvatron which i can see why because well... i dont want to spoil the ending for ROTF but i read the novel of the film. having those characters would be amazing espicially seeing Grimlock on the silver big screen

Son of a bitch. well all there is to do now is hope the movie tanks so he gets fired. It wont happen since all summer movie drones will be feeding the fire that is this crap franchise with their money completely screwing us over once again.

Megatron Wolf wrote:Son of a bitch. well all there is to do now is hope the movie tanks so he gets fired. It wont happen since all summer movie drones will be feeding the fire that is this crap franchise with their money completely screwing us over once again.

Who is this "us" you refer to?

Like him or not, he's perfect for Transformers.

Since when has Transformers ever been about moving stories and Oscar worthy acting? It's badass cars that transform into even badderass robots that fight and beat the crap out of each other. Add in a few Baysplosions and it's prefect.

I'm glad he isn't quitting.

like him or not I can safely say that he isn't perfect for the job. Big explosions and robots may be what attract the general audience but Transformers has the potential to be so much more nowadays with all the material there is and all these movies seem to really care about is explosions and things that general public will be impressed with until they leave the theatre.

warahi wrote:like him or not I can safely say that he isn't perfect for the job. Big explosions and robots may be what attract the general audience but Transformers has the potential to be so much more nowadays with all the material there is and all these movies seem to really care about is explosions and things that general public will be impressed with until they leave the theatre.

You people gotta accept that it's not about pleasing the hardcore fanbase, it's not about yours or my childhood. It's about pleasing the general public. The public's opinion [and their money] is what makes movies happen. That's how sequels happen, and how even bigger sequels happen.

If Bay, Orci, and Kurtzman were to write a story that only G1 fans understood then the movie would fail. Kids wouldn't understand it because they weren't around for G1. I don't think kids like boxy robots either. The public wouldn't understand it [or like it]. No one [or not many] would spend their money watching unconvincing, emotionless, boxy robots clumsily duke it out over cubes of energon.

Face it, G1 was full of way more crap and cheese than the movies. It was really only just a toy commercial. I love G1 BTW. But I love the new movies more. The 2007 movie was unlike anything I could've imagined. Bay, Orci, and Kurtzman made Transformers into something new, unique, and almost alive. I don't think anyone could do much better.

Asking for a coherent story doesn't necessarily translate to asking for a retelling of G1

G1 was never coherent.


over the last 25 years so many things have been retconned in just to make sense.

Robinson wrote:G1 was never coherent.


over the last 25 years so many things have been retconned in just to make sense.

And so many things have been retconned in that make even less sense (like, how does retconning Car Robots help G1 in any way? - It doesn't).

....first I I never said nor implied it should be a retelling of G1, there are multiple universes in the Transformers franchise, secondly, I didn't grow up with G1 and know that it's pretty much crap after the movie was made. I'm just saying it could be so much better than they've made these live action films.

warahi wrote:....first I I never said nor implied it should be a retelling of G1, there are multiple universes in the Transformers franchise, secondly, I didn't grow up with G1 and know that it's pretty much crap after the movie was made. I'm just saying it could be so much better than they've made these live action films.

ALL movies could be better. I think my vision is better than Bay's and the writers' but I'm no professional writer or director. I respect their work on Transformers and I don't think anyone could do much better. They brought the Transformers to life and that's the most important thing to me. I can look past the overabundance of jokes or cheesy mythology about Sparks and Sam's grandfather's glasses or whatever. That kind of lameness comes with every action movie.

I felt it was way too prominent in the live action movies. I'd much rather prefer something like Transwarped be made for the movies than the live action ones.

He's pulling this stunt AGAIN?

Are you talking about Michael Bay, the guy I'm responding to, or me? I just joined.

Burn wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:Son of a bitch. well all there is to do now is hope the movie tanks so he gets fired. It wont happen since all summer movie drones will be feeding the fire that is this crap franchise with their money completely screwing us over once again.

Who is this "us" you refer to?

He's talking about "me"...Me and him = "us"...And "us" are quite dissapointed by Hackeal Bay's most recent mindrape...This guy is a car engine fueled by our hate...He'll always be driving on "E"...

warahi wrote:Are you talking about Michael Bay, the guy I'm responding to, or me? I just joined.

I meant Michael Bay. He pulled this after the first movie.

DMan304 wrote:Like him or not, he's perfect for Transformers.

Since when has Transformers ever been about moving stories and Oscar worthy acting? It's badass cars that transform into even badderass robots that fight and beat the crap out of each other. Add in a few Baysplosions and it's prefect.

I'm glad he isn't quitting.

jonusjaxon wrote: You people gotta accept that it's not about pleasing the hardcore fanbase, it's not about yours or my childhood. It's about pleasing the general public. The public's opinion [and their money] is what makes movies happen. That's how sequels happen, and how even bigger sequels happen.

If Bay, Orci, and Kurtzman were to write a story that only G1 fans understood then the movie would fail. Kids wouldn't understand it because they weren't around for G1. I don't think kids like boxy robots either. The public wouldn't understand it [or like it]. No one [or not many] would spend their money watching unconvincing, emotionless, boxy robots clumsily duke it out over cubes of energon.

Face it, G1 was full of way more crap and cheese than the movies. It was really only just a toy commercial. I love G1 BTW. But I love the new movies more. The 2007 movie was unlike anything I could've imagined. Bay, Orci, and Kurtzman made Transformers into something new, unique, and almost alive. I don't think anyone could do much better.

Both, exellent posts! Agree 100%.
I think the sooner most bay haters can accept this,the sooner we can all get on with things.

We, the fans, need to simply understand that whining about making the movies more complex is very, very selfish. If they based most of the movie on the existing mythos (which has been expanded upon through countless cartoons and comics over the course of 25 years), they would alienate the vast majority of people who aren't hardcore fans.

Not to mention that such a complicated story only truly works in a weekly cartoon or monthly comic, not a biannual movie trilogy. That's why the Watchmen movie got so much grief: they had to cram a year of intricate comics into a movie lasting two and a half hours. It simply can't be done!

I don't hate Bay and I still think the movies could be a lot better than how they have been done. Also, why just have a trilogy?

As of now they only have a contract for a trilogy. Not that I would mind having more than just three films--in fact, I'd love to have the series extend indefinitely as long as there are interesting new stories to tell each time--it's just that I'm not assuming anything.

look, as a moviemaker, Michael Bay sucks.
Sure he makes lots of money. Blockbusters. But the movie itself? Forgotten in a year. Except maybe The Rock.
His idea of action is explosions and rapid camera movements.
A love story is a hot piece of tail.
He literally writes for 13 year olds.
I dont think any of this is really arguable. He doesn't exactly make what I would call a "film", or even "I would like to rewatch it when eating cereal, hung over"

He basically ruined Transformers. Sure it sell merch. But will a whole generation fall in love with it, like the old TF? No.
People are pissed not because they wanted a G1 retelling. Heck, I like G1, but, whatever. All I wanted, and I think most people wanted, was some cool transformers, characters, and giant robots fighting. An actual plotline would help too.
But heres what we got for TF1.
Giant robots: Check.
Cool transformers: Debatable. But you can't tell what part is what, or whats going on in a fight, so I say, no.
Characters: Missed the boat. Shia is not the character I wanted to know. Megatron, Prime, and Starscream were.
Plotline: Not very engaging, but for a summer blockbuster, meh. I never really felt like I cared who got the Allspark. Did you?
Comedy: Failed again. I would hope most people don't think pee and masturbation jokes are what should constitute "entertainment" or "comedy".

In terms of selfishness, or dumb storyline: Its not selfish to want a good movie. Dumb storyline? Kids are actually pretty smart and can follow along if you explain or show things clearly. They can follow a more complex storyline if they can watch something like TF. But then again, storylines arent exactly Bays forte. And kids these days are a lot more complex. Please compare any TV show meant for the 12-15 year old set nowadays, to what they had in the 80's. If its easier,

And it looks like ROTF is more of the same tripe. Unfortunately. At least it leaves room for a real reboot, like Batman. Its not that I expect that level of film making, just someone see potential for a memorable movie AND make it their own.