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TFG2 posted some robot size comparison for all ROTF constructicons. See attached

It looks like the EZ Collection Devastator might be the most accurately sized; the chart really clarifies size issues. The Scavenger vehicle is just huge.

Does anyone know how big voyager Long Haul's dump truck mode is when compared to deluxe Rampage,
voyagers Mixmaster and Demolisher?

Meh' I'm not all that impressed by it. It's nothing we haven't seen before.

Sweet. But it seems weird how Long Haul is that small in alt mode and he gets that big when transformed And what does W.I.P mean? Probably somethin' obvious, but i'm just missin' it.

Mirage22 wrote:Sweet. But it seems weird how Long Haul is that small in alt mode and he gets that big when transformed And what does W.I.P mean? Probably somethin' obvious, but i'm just missin' it.

It means Work In Progress.

Smokescreen GT wrote:

Mirage22 wrote:Sweet. But it seems weird how Long Haul is that small in alt mode and he gets that big when transformed And what does W.I.P mean? Probably somethin' obvious, but i'm just missin' it.

It means Work In Progress.

Right. Thank you. lol. Stupid me

I have the figure so if anyone needs to know something about it just ask or pm me.

Lapse Of Reason wrote:I have the figure so if anyone needs to know something about it just ask or pm me.

U have which figure? Overload?

I don't think that's very accurate, look at the size difference between Long Haul's alt and robot modes, and Rampage to Devastators leg.

Thank you for the amazing post!

I don't think we've seen much of the robot modes for the 2 in the middle. I think all we've seen is crappy pics of the Legends class toys. I really like the looks of those 2.

No mass-shifting my ass! ! god damn this movie

I don't get the point of this chart. Is it supposed to illustrate the mass change? Just compare LongHaul's tyres in vehicle and robot mode. Does he pump them up with air as he transforms? Maybe all them are just full of air in robot mode.

WHY is Demolishor's vehicle mode shown instead of Scavenger's? He didn't form part of Devastator, Scavenger did. Demolishor is white and Scavenger is red. Are they trying to confuse us even more?

Not to mention that they've got Overload and Rampage incorrectly colored yellow instead of red.

Sabrblade wrote:WHY is Demolishor's vehicle mode shown instead of Scavenger's? He didn't form part of Devastator, Scavenger did. Demolishor is white and Scavenger is red. Are they trying to confuse us even more?

Not to mention that they've got Overload and Rampage incorrectly colored yellow instead of red.

If you actually take notice, that excavator's color is mostly red...which would make it Scavenger, although we never see him in robot mode.

I agree that Overload is colored wrong, but the Rampage component on Devastator was yellow. The actual character Rampage that fought 'Bee was red, probably so it was easier for the moviegoers to distinguish between him and 'Bee.

bowerprime73 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:WHY is Demolishor's vehicle mode shown instead of Scavenger's? He didn't form part of Devastator, Scavenger did. Demolishor is white and Scavenger is red. Are they trying to confuse us even more?

Not to mention that they've got Overload and Rampage incorrectly colored yellow instead of red.

If you actually take notice, that excavator's color is mostly red...which would make it Scavenger, although we never see him in robot mode.

I agree that Overload is colored wrong, but the Rampage component on Devastator was yellow. The actual character Rampage that fought 'Bee was red, probably so it was easier for the moviegoers to distinguish between him and 'Bee.

Okay, that's my mistake on the excavator. Now that I've looked closer (I'm a dumbass), the alternate mode in the picture is white, but the robot mode is red.

I believe I am still correct about the Rampage component.

bowerprime73 wrote:

bowerprime73 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:WHY is Demolishor's vehicle mode shown instead of Scavenger's? He didn't form part of Devastator, Scavenger did. Demolishor is white and Scavenger is red. Are they trying to confuse us even more?

Not to mention that they've got Overload and Rampage incorrectly colored yellow instead of red.

If you actually take notice, that excavator's color is mostly red...which would make it Scavenger, although we never see him in robot mode.

I agree that Overload is colored wrong, but the Rampage component on Devastator was yellow. The actual character Rampage that fought 'Bee was red, probably so it was easier for the moviegoers to distinguish between him and 'Bee.

Okay, that's my mistake on the excavator. Now that I've looked closer (I'm a dumbass), the alternate mode in the picture is white, but the robot mode is red.

I believe I am still correct about the Rampage component.

The vehicle mode pic is Demolishor's, but the robot mode pic is Scanveger's.

I think the alt-mode to Devastator scale is dead on, but the alt-mode to robot are waaaaay off.

Nah, they couldn't give us a decent devastator, they can't make it up now with charts and graphics.

My Devastator was a cool machine. Cool like Terminator, huge as King Kong. Not cool as King Kong and huge like Terminator. They got it all wrong.

Someone said "We need BALLS to make this character work !", and they went the literal way.

Individual constructicons i will buy them, but the multicoloured abomination - i pass.

Great...

Sabrblade wrote:

bowerprime73 wrote:

bowerprime73 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:WHY is Demolishor's vehicle mode shown instead of Scavenger's? He didn't form part of Devastator, Scavenger did. Demolishor is white and Scavenger is red. Are they trying to confuse us even more?

Not to mention that they've got Overload and Rampage incorrectly colored yellow instead of red.

If you actually take notice, that excavator's color is mostly red...which would make it Scavenger, although we never see him in robot mode.

I agree that Overload is colored wrong, but the Rampage component on Devastator was yellow. The actual character Rampage that fought 'Bee was red, probably so it was easier for the moviegoers to distinguish between him and 'Bee.

Okay, that's my mistake on the excavator. Now that I've looked closer (I'm a dumbass), the alternate mode in the picture is white, but the robot mode is red.

I believe I am still correct about the Rampage component.

The vehicle mode pic is Demolishor's, but the robot mode pic is Scanveger's.

The pics on the bottom are just reference photos for the artists/modelers, it has nothing to do with the movie other than they are using those vehicles for reference for the movie, not the literal vehicles that are pictured. The concept art is also temporary and just for concept. I think I agree with bowerprime73 on why they changed Rampage to red for the movie.

But yea, that change of size for Longhaul is ridiculous. If they weren't going to make a Constructicons with all 3 modes that combine, they could have at least gave us a consistent bot combo count. I really wish they would have worked Overload into the $100 gift set. I feel like I'd rather buy 3 sets of the Legends figs than the $100 big set.

The individual cons are a win (minus demolisher) but Dev is the biggest epic fail ive ever seen (no pun intended). Why did hasbro let bay and the writers screw it up so much? As far as im concerned thats not Devastator its just another scrap bot. And what ever happened to no massshifting? First the allspark and now dev. So does this mean Soundwave will be a PSP or computer in the next film?

I'm not sure where the issue of mass shifting is coming from.

First of all, this chart is by no means to scale. Long Haul's alt mode is gi-freakin-normous. To put it this way....it takes 2-3 loads from an excavator that is sized at least as big as Demolishor's alt mode. So Long Haul's 'bot mode is roughly true to scale - no mass shifting. He should be one of the biggest constructicons - as reflected in the scene at the bottom of the ocean. Side note - as I recall...he isn't even a Caterpillar dump truck in the movie - possibly a Leibherr.

Secondly, this chart shows a movie accurate alt mode of Demolishor and the concept art for the Demolishor as well. Scavanger isn't even shown on this chart, and I don't recall seeing him in the movie either.

Third, Rampage is red in the movie - in alt mode and bot mode. Everything we've seen to this point (outside of the movie, that is) shows him as yellow....creating total confusion, since there is an unnamed, yellow bulldozer shown in the movie.

Finally, keep in mind that in the movie - the characters weren't even the ones that made up Devy. The constructicons in 'bot mode were searching for Sam while Devy was making his way for remodeling the pyramid with Agent Simmons following him. This is also why, IMO, we'll never see a Devy that's a true combiner with individual 'bot modes....cause that's not how he was in the movie. Excellent marketing ploy really (although I think its b%!!$#!^).

The mass shifting issue comes from Longhauls alt-mode. They claim he is a Cat 773B. But judging by his robot modes size he seems to be something along the lines of a Cat 797B mining truck.