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The Razzies celebrate the worst of Hollywood and Revenge of the Fallen has been nominated in 7 Categories

http://www.razzies.com/history/30thNoms.asp

The film is up for
Worst Film
Worst Director,
Worst Remake, Rip-Off or Sequel,
Worst Screenplay,
Worst Supporting Actress (Julie White as the stoned, screaming mother of Shia Le Bouf)
Worst Screen Couple (Le Bouf and EITHER Megan Fox OR Any Transformer)
Worst Actress (Megan Fox)

It made a ton of cash, but it is still the biggest pile of slag Hollywood have ever produced.

Chaoslock wrote:It made a ton of cash, but it is still the biggest pile of slag Hollywood have ever produced.

I'm not a fan of the movie, but there are worse movies that have been made than ROTF. Again, didn't like the movie, just so I don't get fellow-ROTF-dislikers all crazy at me too, but how would anyone really know that something was the worst of anything? It's like an immesurable quantity.
That being said, the money a movie makes, or a record makes, or anything makes, should not be used as a value of it's greatness. I'm sure that by now Britany Spears has made more money than J.S. Bach has, and if we use this faulty criteria of how much money something makes =ing it's obvious superiority over other things, then Britany is/was/will always be better than Bach in terms of musical ability. If you believe that notion, that's just sad, and just becuase ROTF made a lot of money, don't make it the greatest. Plus, if we judge by the money standard, ROTF was decent, but not as good as Spiderman, or Titanic, or Avatar, which has recently passed Titanic. So, nice try there ROTF, but you were outclassed by and inferior to a sinking boat. My point is that the money is not, or at least should not be, an indication of ROTF's supremacy.

7? That's just Prime (read: sad).

I didn't think it was horrible. In fact, I kinda liked it. Scratch that. It was AWESOME. The fact that it was so lowly rated by critics (And it was listed as the number 1 Worst Movie of 2009 on Gizmodo, those bastards) saddened me. However, it didn't surprise me that Roger Ebert is an old fart who can't tell Bumblebee from Rampage (Look, Roger! They're differently colored!), let alone find a plot when it's right under his nose (Then again, your eyes are positioned an inch upward from your nose, so that adds some difficulty to the process).

Waaaaaaaaaah.

Chaoslock wrote:It made a ton of cash, but it is still the biggest pile of slag Hollywood have ever produced.

Ever? Really? Worse than Mortal Kombat Annihilation, or Batman and Robin? I can understand that you didn't like it, but calling it the worst movie ever is hyperbolic and absurd.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

Chaoslock wrote:It made a ton of cash, but it is still the biggest pile of slag Hollywood have ever produced.

Ever? Really? Worse than Mortal Kombat Annihilation, or Batman and Robin? I can understand that you didn't like it, but calling it the worst movie ever is hyperbolic and absurd.

If Chaoslock thinks it's the worst movie ever then that's his right to think that. Just because you think otherwise does not make it absurd.

Remember people, respect the opinions of others even if you disagree with them.

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This makes me lose faith in critics(oh wait, I didn't have any) or whoever comes up with these nominations.
Seriously? WORST MOVIE? This movie was better than about 80% of the movies that came out this year(err last year). Even with it's bad points it wasn't even that bad of a movie, sure it was nothing compared to part one but it is so far from the worst movie ever.

While I was disappointed in it I can name so many movies that are worse than this....it just doesn't deserve being called the worst movie, people just have something against giant robots and movies that aren't overdramatic...

i liked this movie i thought the fight scene in the forest with prime was sick plus the worst movie of the year was G.I. Joe. the movie was suck

Finally! RotF has been nominated for awards it can actually win!

I'm not going to go into this nonsense too much, but if you're a person who thinks this movie is the worst thing you've ever seen, then apparently you HAVN'T SEEN VERY MANY MOVIES. The ONLY reason you are picking on it is because it's trendy to do so, that's it. The critics like to take aim at it simply because it had a big budget which made it a huge target for their nitpicking - the acting is bad, this is bad, that is bad - as if they all were expecting arthouse film making from something that is based on TOYS and a CARTOON! It's just hilarious! Yeah, let's compare toy robots to The Godfather, Scorsese, Paul Newman, Eastwood, Ridley Scott, etc., that really makes sense, real intelligent. I myself did not like parts of this movie, yes it could have been better, but I also have the common sense to realize that some parts of it were pretty darn cool and overall, pretty enjoyable. To say that this movie was the worst anything is beyond ridiculous and very narrow minded. Just my opinion you say? Really? Then why don't you go watch some of the hundreds of awful films that were made just last year, including most comedies and rom-coms that arn't even funny, and then in all seriousness try to tell yourself that ROTF was the "worst yadayada".

Again, toys and cartoons, what were you expecting?

And yeah, I guess I did go into this pretty deep.

One of the worst movies of the year, by far. I had my hopes up, and once again they were crashed under the weight of this movie.

Liftgate wrote:I'm not going to go into this nonsense too much, but if you're a person who thinks this movie is the worst thing you've ever seen, then apparently you HAVN'T SEEN VERY MANY MOVIES. The ONLY reason you are picking on it is because it's trendy to do so, that's it. The critics like to take aim at it simply because it had a big budget which made it a huge target for their nitpicking - the acting is bad, this is bad, that is bad - as if they all were expecting arthouse film making from something that is based on TOYS and a CARTOON! It's just hilarious! Yeah, let's compare toy robots to The Godfather, Scorsese, Paul Newman, Eastwood, Ridley Scott, etc., that really makes sense, real intelligent. I myself did not like parts of this movie, yes it could have been better, but I also have the common sense to realize that some parts of it were pretty darn cool and overall, pretty enjoyable. To say that this movie was the worst anything is beyond ridiculous and very narrow minded. Just my opinion you say? Really? Then why don't you go watch some of the hundreds of awful films that were made just last year, including most comedies and rom-coms that arn't even funny, and then in all seriousness try to tell yourself that ROTF was the "worst yadayada".

Again, toys and cartoons, what were you expecting?

And yeah, I guess I did go into this pretty deep.

My point exactly

Finally ROTF is getting nominated for awards it deserves. Now to throw my 2 cents in on the "worst movie ever fiasco" thats going on here (you knew it was coming) Hate to say it but its Not the worst movie of all time, is it one of em yeah. worst of the year hell yes, decade possibly (there were a lot of really bad movies in the past 10 years, ever see Bloodrayne or half the syfy movies?) worst of all time, its close but not the worst.(id like to add im speaking as a movie fan not a TF fan for once, i know what a shock) I can think of at least 5 movies that suck worse than ROTF, & with the fast forward button ROTF is watchable. Granted its reduced to about 20-30min but still its 30 min of viewable material. There are movies that with fast forward theres nothing worth seeing. Now dont get the idea im now all of a sudden saying i like ROTF i still hate it with a passion and i still want my money back (wait i got in for free, ok give me back the brain cells and time i lost from watching it). If you think this is the worst movie of all time (ALL TIME, thats a **** load of movies) then you better start watching HBO & starz cause you obviously dont watch alot of movies.

My problem with the razzies is that it never attacks the really bad movies that slip in under the radar. The fact that Ace Venture Jr. is not on the list for Worst Picture of 2009, Worst Remake, Rip-Off or Sequel and/or Worst Screenplay just shows that. That movie was so bad that Jim Carrey was wise enough to avoid it. The razzies are just a bunch of fanboys that complain about movies all day. They probably liked that god awful Transformers 3 script that popped up a couple of months ago too.

Btw I am not defending ROTF or the others nominated but there are other movies out there that deserve to get slated. Why only attack the high profile ones? Also, I liked Julia White in ROTF.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

Chaoslock wrote:It made a ton of cash, but it is still the biggest pile of slag Hollywood have ever produced.

Ever? Really? Worse than Mortal Kombat Annihilation, or Batman and Robin? I can understand that you didn't like it, but calling it the worst movie ever is hyperbolic and absurd.

I actually liked MK2 as a kid, and still think it was good compared to what a fighting-program-based movie can do.

Batman and Robin: Wasn't worse than Batman Forever, and the comic based on it was actually readable.


But since RotF, every autobot is a genocidal maniac - just look at the new Seasprays bio.

Can anyone honestly be surprised by this turn of events? The reality is that in terms of what a movie is about at its core - story and characters - the LATFMs have never been that good. It's always been a case of explosions covering up for shallow dialogue and toilet humour taking the place of character exposition. The first movie got away with it due to a mix of nostalgia and bradn recognition, but those factors were always only going ot be good for one movie.

Yes the movie made a ton of money, but at the same time, an awful lot of (awful :p) people watch shows like big brother, so box office takings these days aren't the litmus test of a decent movie.

Were there other movies more deserving of nominations? Possibly, but only just. However the "under the radar" movies that got brought up before are "under the radar for a reason- they're not overly hyped and not $150 million extravaganzas. This was a high profile, high cost movie without a script and by its very nature, proof of just who was at fault for the failings of the first script (specifically, Bay). Heck even Hasbro and Bay have been making a bit of a deal out of how much the third movie is going to be "character focused" (which realistically means 1 or 2 toilet humour gags going for 30 seconds of character exposition).

Unlike those "under the radar movies" Transformers 2 was a symbol of the bar Hollywood sets these days and in terms of something even remotely close to something critically acclaimed, TF2 sets the bar so low that you could parachute out of a snake's butt to reach it. Hollywood needs to be sent a message that no matter how much gold you coat a turd in, paid for by its box office takings, it's still a turd and that CG, hype, huge budgets and excessive pyrotechnic displays are no substitute for quality characterisatons and stories. Here's hoping TF2 sweeps the board and the Hollywood gets the message (presuming they didn't from Avatar).

So, when it comes to deciding whether a movie is bad or not, the cost of the movie has to be taken into account. Sorry that sounds like total BS. A bad movie is a bad movie reguardless of how much money was used to produce it. You are right about a turd being a turd, but notoriety and money should not be a way to distiguish the bad from the worst. The Razzies exist to humiliate bad movies but they have become a bashing ground for fanboys.

Again, I am not defending ROTF.

"IT IS BETTER TO BE HATED FOR WHAT YOU ARE, THAN TO BE LOVED FOR SOMETHING YOU ARE NOT" The Transformers fanbase is up there with the likes of Star Wars, Star Trek, and other great Sci-fiction, and has outlasted many other "great" movies/books/toylines...& to be honest, I have thrown my share of stones at this movie, but when we were sitting in our living rooms holding our favorite TFs while watching our beloved show...did we ever imagine that we could be seeing devastator's "Cyber Berries" on an Imax screen...probably not, but the fact that we had the (dis)pleasure of doing so, we should be proviledged that studios, directors, and non-TF fans are taking the time to produce films with our beloved characters, whether good or bad...ok, time to take my meds now.

It was a pretty awful movie, but only watched it to see the TFs fighting and transforming. I watched every action scene featuring the TFs multiple times, and I fast-forwarded through everything else.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Finally! RotF has been nominated for awards it can actually win!

Too true! It may get a clean sweep this time!

Megan Fox won worst actress!!
Wait, she's not even an actress, but an ugly b*tch who thinks she's one.

I agree. While certainly not the WORST movie ever made, it's up there. Perhaps when they re-do these movies they will take hints on the CGI from the upcoming War For Cybertron Game.

I have always thought that the Bots should be far more recognizable than they were in either movie.

I fking love this movie. Screw all of the critics. Every one is giving bad reviews of it, but look, It made over $400 million. So yeah, shove that up your ass critics! This is movie had way more action that the first one, the story for the 1st one was wierd (I dont really care though) and every time I try to watch the first one again, I fall asleep, honestly. So thats indication ROTF is a better movie. (for me anyway)

Liftgate wrote:I'm not going to go into this nonsense too much, but if you're a person who thinks this movie is the worst thing you've ever seen, then apparently you HAVN'T SEEN VERY MANY MOVIES. The ONLY reason you are picking on it is because it's trendy to do so, that's it.

So, it's just not possible that someone would not like this movie? For all of the debate, good, bad, ugly or indifferent, that has transpired as a reult of this film, it all comes down to there being an impossibility that someone does not like it, for any reason, and the only accepted reson that one would not like it is because of some trend towards not liking it.
I don't like ROTF becuase I did not like the movie. I didn't know it was a trend not to like it, but since I like it for a) a reason besides it being trendy and b) have done the impossible by liking it for a reason besides its apparent only acceptable reason, my Internet Badass Rating just shot through the roof. If it's trendy to not like a movie because of a trend, that's one lame-ass trend.

Liftgate wrote: The critics like to take aim at it simply because it had a big budget which made it a huge target for their nitpicking - the acting is bad, this is bad, that is bad - as if they all were expecting arthouse film making from something that is based on TOYS and a CARTOON! It's just hilarious! Yeah, let's compare toy robots to The Godfather, Scorsese, Paul Newman, Eastwood, Ridley Scott, etc., that really makes sense, real intelligent. I myself did not like parts of this movie, yes it could have been better, but I also have the common sense to realize that some parts of it were pretty darn cool and overall, pretty enjoyable. To say that this movie was the worst anything is beyond ridiculous and very narrow minded. Just my opinion you say? Really? Then why don't you go watch some of the hundreds of awful films that were made just last year, including most comedies and rom-coms that arn't even funny, and then in all seriousness try to tell yourself that ROTF was the "worst yadayada".

Again, toys and cartoons, what were you expecting?

And yeah, I guess I did go into this pretty deep.

You did go deep, but that's cool, becuase it means you have something to say, which is why we all talk on the Internet.
We were more likely to find Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq than to find ROFT to be an arthouse/cinematic masterpiece. But come on, some people don't like it. It's not a personal attack at you, or at any other fan of the movie, or for the most part Bay/the crappy writers/whoever. Who expected more? Obviously the people who keep saying they disliked the movie and expected more. Transformers has 25 years of history and memories for people, and to think that everyone is complacently accepting of the big budget vision of Transformers is just as stupid as calling any movie the Worst movie of this or any time. Everything is relative. I thought ROTF was a bad movie. Was it the worst of 09, no, becase as bad as ROTF was to me, Jennifer's Body was way worse. Why aren't we crying bitter tears over my saying that, besides that little fact that this is a Transformers site and not a Jennifer's Body site?