The Energon Pub

Heya everybody.This is my first post here so apologies now if I break any rules anywhere.I just thought that I should mention the three stunticons might (Like ZERO POINT ONE PERCENT CHANCE MIGHT) be arcee and her sisters.I get how ridiculous this sounds but there are three nascars and check their colors;I don't anticipate the Nascars to be Autobots at all but I figured I should mention it in the name of all g1 and onwards Transformers who are MIA in the Bayformers Universe.

Furthermore,I don't see the twins in the chicago chase footage,nor wheelie (obviously) or (if memory serves me right now) Ironhide.
My Thoughts:
Any or all missing autobots could be tackling a seperate objective elsewhere, Alternatively, some or all may be dead or wounded in mid storyline battles to crank audiences up into wrath mode. Note Humans may be killing Autobots, too, in this movie.

Wheelie and the motorbikes could potentially be hanging out inside Primes trailer, (which btw,would have needed to convert into protoform/meteorite-thing mode to get from Cybertron [or wherever Autobots are hiding these days] to Earth, provided it's Cybertronian and not of human fabrication.)Primes' trailer traditionally had some mini-type bots living inside it. Is it possible the twins are hiding in there as well during the lead up to Bays'final battle, in order to execute some kind of surprise deployment move?

Theory, regarding Hot Rod theory as the Ferrari: I feel that one way to close the trilogy in an open ended way would definitely be to introduce Hot Rod, and if possible, then definitely as an at least IMPLIED future prime. Since Optimus is the last Prime in the Bayverse according to ROTF,perhaps Hot Rod as the son of Prime is the only open window here, in order to leave the Bay storyline consistent with itself and yet give the Autobot future another leader once Optimus ages and dies... Tho the idea of gargantuan optimus mating with one of the little females? Sure, it's revealed in ROTF that their birth reproduction process is unlike ours but even if this angle were to be attempted, Hot Rod would have to be an Infant in this movie,tho... and personally I would strongly consider importing another, larger female into the script to be the Mamabot.Such a plot hook in the story could then even have to do with Decepticon assasination attempts of the baby.
These are just thoughts of mine that I am offering for discussion, mind you, not my personal idea of what the third movie MUST be. Everybody who loves the vintage transformers wants confirmation that they're still alive somewhere and will come to join the Autobots on Earth soon...

I still feel the third film should close with SOME type of Autobot "future hope" but I'm just saying I'm not yet convinced that the Ferrari will turn out to be be Hot Rod or Wheeljack. By trying to second guess Bays' tendencies to choose a name he likes and assemble the rest of the bot himself (then kill it off when we remind him he defaced its original appeal), I guess that "Red" may be Windcharger, Overdrive or even Prowl,but not Hot Rod or Wheeljack. Sorry to Hot Rod & Wheeljack fans.I'm one too,tho.

i've seen the twins and ironhide and in a interview bay said he killed of one of the arcee's

So, a luke skywalker kinda thing?

I figured he'd kill off at least one of the Arcee's when I first saw RoTF and also anticipate the death of one of the twins. Jolt is also a minor enough character to be killed off in the name of escalating drama.
As for the seen but not seen cars(Ironhide & twins), I've seen them too in photos where they are parked but not in any of the sequences where vehicles are driving around.HOWEVER the newly spotted red jeep hasn't been seen driving around yet either although it's on set, which is why I'm forwarding the theory that a second Autobot team may busy in the vicinity of the one racing down the streets with the Nascars.Furthermore I see no battle damage on the confirmed autobots which leads me to assume they are just arriving to the act...the Nascars are too grungy looking to tell for sure but also seem to have no battle damage in existing footage...

I'm not suggesting a Luke Skywalker thing in terms of an adult Hot Rod never knowing he was a Prime, but the only painless way I can think of that the Bayverse can allow the Autobots to have hope for a Future Prime/continuing Autobot culture by the closing credits of the third film.
At the moment only Prime, Jazz, Ironhide,BB and Ratchet got to Earth, and since Prime brought his Soldierless Chief Lieutennant with him, who is running the Autobot army? Prowl? Or nobody because there is no army?
As events progress Prime puts out a call to all the surviving Autobots and Only Arcees surviving family group,Sideswipe without his Brother, Jolt and the two Yokel twins rock up.Then we learn Prime will age and die.The decimated Autobot population is left without a homeworld,a successor to Optimus, a place on Earth or a sign that others still live.If the trilogy closes like this,it's as if there was never a point for the Autobots to have tried migrating to Earth in the first place which is an apalling message to pass on to the new generation of TF fans:Transformers live for to perform acceptably when pushed to the limit and then be torn apart in the name of Superior Human Predestiny.Once, the Transformers were a family that belonged together and complimented one anothers' traits,and the Humans who got to know them saw them as beautiful friends...In the films Bumblebee is Sams' Dog and almost treated as property.This is what REALLY angers me.

But wait.... I thought in Revenge of the Fallen, Two of the Arcees died.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Arcee_%28Movie%29

The Wiki says that the blue one remained... but , you know... it's a wiki...