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Jazz's ***** (SPOLIERS)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:46 am
by Blasterscream
Is it just me or was his death underdramatic. I mean megs blasts him and rips his spark out. Nothing more to, no remark or anything.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:52 am
by Scatterlung
I believe the scene goes something like..

Everyone launches into battle, and his first target (as everyone else is preoccupied) is Megatron. He's frantically bashing at the guys head, and says something dumb like "You wanna piece of me?" to which Megs replies "No, I just want you in pieces" or something similar. And he whips Jazz off his back and tears him in half.

Now apparently the guy gets no development so that he wont be missed by the kiddies (no repeat of 1986). It's quick, brutal. He's the red-shirt in the this one. We gotta leave behind his G1 incarnation and our opinions of him because they don't apply here. He's a new character, and he's pretty faceless as a new character, so, as a new character, he's nothing special. Doesn't, perhaps, deserve dramatics.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:03 pm
by Skowl
Could you please change the title of your thread to avoid spoilers?

Something more like 'Regarding Jazz (Spoilers)', something that doesn't actually state what happens in the film.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:12 pm
by Asderiphel
Skowl wrote:Could you please change the title of your thread to avoid spoilers?

Something more like 'Regarding Jazz (Spoilers)', something that doesn't actually state what happens in the film.


Thanks Skowl. I could pretty much deduce what was going to happen, but there are some of us who haven't read the script and are going to try and avoid anymore spoilerific info. I'd just as soon not know anything more about the movie till I see it.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:22 pm
by Briggs
What kind of title is this? Thanks a lot.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:23 pm
by Nemescream
LMAO, nice title moron.

"Jazz's death (SPOLIERS)"

No ****.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:27 pm
by Bombus distinguendus
Nemescream wrote:LMAO, nice title moron.

"Jazz's death (SPOLIERS)"

No ****.


good thing i knew this already happend months ago

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:36 pm
by mangatron
Come on guys, maybe he's talking about the G1 Jazz! We don't know what happened to him right? :lol:

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Yeah, bad title. And spelled wrong too. Makes it even worse. The irony of it all is the title itself is a spoiler, what's the point in typo-ing "spoiler" in the title anyways :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:40 pm
by EnergonPrimeRules
nice spoiler warning after you GIVE OUT THE SPOILER in the title...

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:43 pm
by EnergonPrimeRules
Meverix wrote:I believe the scene goes something like..

Everyone launches into battle, and his first target (as everyone else is preoccupied) is Megatron. He's frantically bashing at the guys head, and says something dumb like "You wanna piece of me?" to which Megs replies "No, I just want you in pieces" or something similar. And he whips Jazz off his back and tears him in half.

Now apparently the guy gets no development so that he wont be missed by the kiddies (no repeat of 1986). It's quick, brutal. He's the red-shirt in the this one. We gotta leave behind his G1 incarnation and our opinions of him because they don't apply here. He's a new character, and he's pretty faceless as a new character, so, as a new character, he's nothing special. Doesn't, perhaps, deserve dramatics.


but since its been spoiled...ouch, that sounds nasty :P

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:51 pm
by MONKEYBOT
What I don't get is why they picked jazz to die. with his love of earth culture thing I think he would have been a good one to develop in the sequels. You know to help new fans relate to the giant f'ing robots. :???:

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:00 pm
by mangatron
Perhaps Jazz will come back. Who knows, the Allspark has powers beyond our childish imaginations :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:02 pm
by Robinson
Whats a Spolier? :???:

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:10 pm
by mangatron
Robinson wrote:Whats a Spolier? :???:


Evil twin of the publishing company Grolier :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:14 pm
by primalVICTORY
mangatron wrote:Perhaps Jazz will come back. Who knows, the Allspark has powers beyond our childish imaginations :lol:


i wish he comes back but doesnt the allspark get destroyed though??

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:16 pm
by Cyber Bishop
I edited the title of this thread..

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:16 pm
by primalVICTORY
good job. kinda late for those that have already noticed the topic. but its not like we didnt know before.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:18 pm
by Scatterlung
MONKEYBOT wrote:What I don't get is why they picked jazz to die. with his love of earth culture thing I think he would have been a good one to develop in the sequels. You know to help new fans relate to the giant f'ing robots. :???:
But Bumblebee is the Human-Relations character, not Jazz. Think about it, Jazz being the one who Spike goes out and buys? Doesn't fit. And besides, it's more fun to watch Bumblebee get used to earth culture, than to have a character who knows all about it.

We've seen in the Trailers Bumblebee following Spike on a path (with spike on his mothers bicycle). Now Jazz wouldn't do that because he knows what a sidewalk is. So it's more humourous to have those inexperienced sticking around. And with Jazz, why would they want to have anything to do with Spike or Mikaela (other than for the glasses)? They could just ask Jazz about earth culture. It's all about the role each character fulfils (as characters in a movie), and as it stands, Bumblebee can do all that Jazz can, plus he's the human relations character from G1, so he gets to stick around.

Also, Jazz is at the $10/£10 price point whereas say Ratchet and Ironhide are at the £20/$20 price point, and Hasbro don't need people to not-buy the Voyagers because one of them dies.

Robinson wrote:Whats a Spolier?
Something that spoils the plot of a film or story, giving it away.

primalVICTORY wrote:i wish he comes back but doesnt the allspark get destroyed though??
. It does. Hadn't thought that maybe it could've been used to reanimate him.

But I just thought...

*UNRELATED SPOILERS*

Bumblebee gets his legs torn off somehow in this (hence Mikaela driving him around on the back of a tow truck). How come he lives but Jazz snuffs it? In the synopsis given on this site, there wasn't a mention of his spark being consumed by Megatron so surely he can still be alive without his legs? And even if he was torn apart at the abdomen, I think he'd still have a shot. Guess the writers were just playing favourites.

Sounds like Brawn getting taken down by a single shot to the shoulder, huh? Doesn't make any sense :P

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:20 pm
by Cyber Bishop
primalVICTORY wrote:good job. kinda late for those that have already noticed the topic. but its not like we didnt know before.


Yeah I know it was a bit late but I just noticed the thread..

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:24 pm
by bl80
primalVICTORY wrote:good job. kinda late for those that have already noticed the topic. but its not like we didnt know before.



umm sorry.. no.. WE didnt know it before.

Ya.. I might be faulted for checking out a movie forum so close to release date but still it was a pretty asinine thing to do.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:39 pm
by MONKEYBOT
mabey we're getting zoom zoom in tf's2?
i just want dancing bayformers at some stage
:P

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:41 pm
by Vega
Here is an interesting thought. BB gets blown in half and survives, so why doesn't Jazz survive getting torn in half too?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:42 pm
by primalVICTORY
bl80 wrote:
primalVICTORY wrote:good job. kinda late for those that have already noticed the topic. but its not like we didnt know before.



umm sorry.. no.. WE didnt know it before.

Ya.. I might be faulted for checking out a movie forum so close to release date but still it was a pretty asinine thing to do.


sorry. i should have said, "its not like most of us didnt know before." that way its not everyone. i know some people didn't know, but that is a kind of risk you take when coming on a big forum when the movie has been seen by some people.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:47 pm
by MONKEYBOT
Vega wrote: Here is an interesting thought. BB gets blown in half and survives, so why doesn't Jazz survive getting torn in half too?


cause one way or another his spark dies

it's the differance between having your legs blown off and having your upper body ripped in two perhaps?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:47 pm
by primalVICTORY
Vega wrote:Here is an interesting thought. BB gets blown in half and survives, so why doesn't Jazz survive getting torn in half too?


that was just said! :P

Meverix wrote:*UNRELATED SPOILERS*

Bumblebee gets his legs torn off somehow in this (hence Mikaela driving him around on the back of a tow truck). How come he lives but Jazz snuffs it? In the synopsis given on this site, there wasn't a mention of his spark being consumed by Megatron so surely he can still be alive without his legs? And even if he was torn apart at the abdomen, I think he'd still have a shot. Guess the writers were just playing favourites.


but i wanna know the same. he should be able to survive, and dont they all have crazy healing abilities? *Guessing SPOILERS :lol: * Frenzy gets cut in half and then reforms or something right? so if that's true, then why cant BB and Jazz after they get blown/torn apart?

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