-Kanrabat- wrote:I once said it and I'll say it again. The main problem with the movies is that they focused way too more on the humans. I can understand it for the first movie because we discover them (and I love Shia's act.) Unfortunately, there's way too much human slapstick in RotF and DotM. It feel like poor and cheap filler. Sure, these scenes were way less expensives to shoot than the scenes with the bots. Man, the bots do have personalities and feelings too. If you have to pad the movie, pad it with scenes that make us discover the
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so that se care about them. This way, when a bot die, instead of doing "meh", we may actually feel something.
Also, it snowed two days ago. 30 cm of white ****. It's Bay's fault.
Actually the emphasis on humans (more so in the first but still there in the sequels) is thanks to Spielberg, self proclaimed fan of Transformers, who thought audiences couldn't identify with the robots if they were the main focus. This is why I believe you should NEVER let a fan handle an adaptation.
TurboMMaster wrote:Actually, Kurtzman and Orci are good writes, after all, what they done with Transformers:Prime is a masterpice. Also, original script of RotF was far different from what we got, thanks to Michael Bay. I belive that the worst part of Bayformers is Michael Bay itself. The universe is intersting and have a lot of potential, however, Bay have some strange tendency to belive that he can do anything, and he can do it better. Pretty much all things fans hate in Bayformers are his personal ideas.
About Ironhide: I feel relief when he was killed, to be honest I think he should end killed in first movie, by Megatron. Mostly because when Autobots engade Megatron, Jazz should be already dead. Simply, when Brawl catch Jazz and thrown him away, he should tear Autobot apart instead.
No, they really are crap. I couldn't watch more than a few episodes of Prime before I turned off the TV for good. They're widely acknowledged as two of the worst writers in Hollywood today. The script for RotF turned out how it did because those two decided to not finish the job after collecting their paycheck and quitting for the Writer's Guild Strike. They're lazy, no talent hacks.
See, your problem is you don't know anything about how a movie is made, who's responsible for what areas of the film and so forth. Let me educate you with a simple bullet point list:
1: Emphasis on humans over bots - That was Spielberg, as stated earlier in this post. You can also thank him for the Twins if you disliked them. He thought they would be funny and took a play from the book of his best friend George Lucas, the king of offensive stereotypes.
2: The plot/characterization and related problems - That was Orci and Kurtzman. Michael Bay is not a script writer, nor has he ever written one. When they handed him an unfinished script he had to bring in a non-guild writer to finish it mid-filming.
3: Shakey cam - Probably the only thing you can legitimately blame on Bay, and it's highly subjective.
And those are the facts. You need to learn how to allocate blame when it comes to a multi-person production. Blaming the "face" of the team doesn't do anything but make you look foolish.