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Back in April Paramount announced they had entered a Cooperation Agreement with Jiaflix Enterprises and the China Movie Channel, and since then we've learned that China would play a major part in "Transformers 4" with filming, Chinese stars, and even a reality show with the prize being a role in the film.

Marc Ganis, president of Jiaflix Enterprises, has went even further stating that Transformers 4 will have a China-centric theme.

The film has a great deal to do with China. Effectively, China is a character in it

He also states there will only be one "worldwide" version of the film rather than releasing a version specific to China with additional footage starring Chinese actors like the recently released "Iron Man 3".

There is going to be a single version (of the film) worldwide with a very significant Chinese component

The full article can be found on xinhuanet.com by click here.

Interesting. Everyone remember to keep tabs on China.

I can already see the subtitle they will go with...


TransFormers: Made in China

I see a trend and the direction that these (Ironman, Wolverine and Transformers 4) super hero movies are going. And I'm all with it. Theres much more Transformers 4 info that's more than meets the eye comming. Maybe those movies I mentioned all was just to lead up to this upcoming blockbuster Bayverse movie

Um, whhhyy? Im not against it im just wondering why the love of china all of a sudden?

Doubledealer93 wrote:Um, whhhyy? Im not against it im just wondering why the love of china all of a sudden?

To be fair, we owe China shitloads.

Doubledealer93 wrote:Um, whhhyy? Im not against it im just wondering why the love of china all of a sudden?

China has been opening up more and more in recent years. They're one of the biggest economies in the world and thanks to their opening up, are more welcoming of big Hollywood movies.

It's strictly an economic move.

Burn wrote:

Doubledealer93 wrote:Um, whhhyy? Im not against it im just wondering why the love of china all of a sudden?

China has been opening up more and more in recent years. They're one of the biggest economies in the world and thanks to their opening up, are more welcoming of big Hollywood movies.

It's strictly an economic move.

ohh ok. makes sense now.

I will say this only to point out a fact about China... I refuse to jump into the speculation as fact bandwagon...

China for SEVERAL years now is on the forefront of archaeological finds regarding dinosaurs.

Just saying...

So is this film going to go the route of Gosei Sentai Dairanger where all the Transformers know Shaolin Martial Arts? A Kirin transformer would be awesome as well.

Well, because, you know, Drift and all that...
On the whole china note, I hope we get a bunch of ninja and samurai designs on and off the screen.

BeastProwl wrote:On the whole china note, I hope we get a bunch of ninja and samurai designs on and off the screen.

That's Japan ...

Eagleblaster wrote:I see a trend and the direction that these (Ironman, Wolverine and Transformers 4) super hero movies are going.

Actually Wolverine is set in Japan and the character as a good chunk of his backstory set there since forever.

Capt.Failure wrote:

Eagleblaster wrote:I see a trend and the direction that these (Ironman, Wolverine and Transformers 4) super hero movies are going.

Actually Wolverine is set in Japan and the character as a good chunk of his backstory set there since forever.

China and Japan are both the far east rite.

Eagleblaster wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:

Eagleblaster wrote:I see a trend and the direction that these (Ironman, Wolverine and Transformers 4) super hero movies are going.

Actually Wolverine is set in Japan and the character as a good chunk of his backstory set there since forever.

China and Japan are both the far east rite.

Yes, China and Japan are part of the area designated as the Far East.

Doubledealer93 wrote:Um, whhhyy? Im not against it im just wondering why the love of china all of a sudden?

I'm not sure why the replies weren't more blunt: CHINA FUNDS MOVIES.
Emerging economy, lots of Chinese TF fans, blah blah blah. But the reality is that China has $$$ to spend, and has funded U.S. presidency bids, as well. Why not court them for some sweet TF Movie budget? But on that note, it's a little disturbing to see Chinese dollars invested in so many U.S. enterprises and politics... It's culturally dangerous for Hollywood types to blindly accept foreign money and tailor American movies to foreign cultures. A little is fine, of course, but too much and it's total culture war... Won't be long before these movies begin depicting the USA as more and more comically incompetent (this is, after all, how a lot of the world depicts the USA, at best).

Xephon0930 wrote:So is this film going to go the route of Gosei Sentai Dairanger where all the Transformers know Shaolin Martial Arts? A Kirin transformer would be awesome as well.

BeastProwl wrote:Well, because, you know, Drift and all that...
On the whole china note, I hope we get a bunch of ninja and samurai designs on and off the screen.

I know you guys mean well, fellow TF fans, but your comments come off as extremely racist. I mean, if China were to depict Americans, should they have cowboy hats, eat french fries, and play football all the time? I really hope Bay can depict China with less racist undertones.

Eagleblaster wrote:China and Japan are both the far east rite.

You're probably unaware, but this is a GREAT way to insult both Chinese and Japanese people. It's like saying, "Isn't Mexico and USA part of North America?" So, you know, why not compare Americans to Mexicans. Same sort of thing, I mean.

Anyway, my point is that the Asian countries really don't like each other over in the East. Making ignorant comparisons between them or alluding to two countries being the same is INCREDIBLY INSULTING to Asians. Keep that in mind if you ever join a conversation with a group of Asians. I've made pretty ignorant comments before myself, when I was unaware of how nationalistic Asians are as a whole.

Metrosuplex wrote:

Doubledealer93 wrote:Um, whhhyy? Im not against it im just wondering why the love of china all of a sudden?

I'm not sure why the replies weren't more blunt: CHINA FUNDS MOVIES.

Mindmaster wrote:To be fair, we owe China shitloads.

This wasn't blunt enough?

Xephon0930 wrote:So is this film going to go the route of Gosei Sentai Dairanger where all the Transformers know Shaolin Martial Arts? A Kirin transformer would be awesome as well.

BeastProwl wrote:Well, because, you know, Drift and all that...
On the whole china note, I hope we get a bunch of ninja and samurai designs on and off the screen.

I know you guys mean well, fellow TF fans, but your comments come off as extremely racist. I mean, if China were to depict Americans, should they have cowboy hats, eat french fries, and play football all the time? I really hope Bay can depict China with less racist undertones.

I'm pretty sure China views us that way anyway.

Eagleblaster wrote:China and Japan are both the far east rite.

You're probably unaware, but this is a GREAT way to insult both Chinese and Japanese people.

The guy was asking a damn question, calm yourself.

Mexicans are Americans just as much as long time Americans. They also helped and shape tye USA. If someone said something like the Alamo. Two totally different cultures from the same place. Technically there are more similarities between japan and china than Mexicans and Americans. They are both part of the same region.

Metrosuplex wrote:

Doubledealer93 wrote:Um, whhhyy? Im not against it im just wondering why the love of china all of a sudden?

I'm not sure why the replies weren't more blunt: CHINA FUNDS MOVIES.
Emerging economy, lots of Chinese TF fans, blah blah blah. But the reality is that China has $$$ to spend, and has funded U.S. presidency bids, as well. Why not court them for some sweet TF Movie budget? But on that note, it's a little disturbing to see Chinese dollars invested in so many U.S. enterprises and politics... It's culturally dangerous for Hollywood types to blindly accept foreign money and tailor American movies to foreign cultures. A little is fine, of course, but too much and it's total culture war... Won't be long before these movies begin depicting the USA as more and more comically incompetent (this is, after all, how a lot of the world depicts the USA, at best).

Xephon0930 wrote:So is this film going to go the route of Gosei Sentai Dairanger where all the Transformers know Shaolin Martial Arts? A Kirin transformer would be awesome as well.

BeastProwl wrote:Well, because, you know, Drift and all that...
On the whole china note, I hope we get a bunch of ninja and samurai designs on and off the screen.

I know you guys mean well, fellow TF fans, but your comments come off as extremely racist. I mean, if China were to depict Americans, should they have cowboy hats, eat french fries, and play football all the time? I really hope Bay can depict China with less racist undertones.

Eagleblaster wrote:China and Japan are both the far east rite.

You're probably unaware, but this is a GREAT way to insult both Chinese and Japanese people. It's like saying, "Isn't Mexico and USA part of North America?" So, you know, why not compare Americans to Mexicans. Same sort of thing, I mean.

Anyway, my point is that the Asian countries really don't like each other over in the East. Making ignorant comparisons between them or alluding to two countries being the same is INCREDIBLY INSULTING to Asians. Keep that in mind if you ever join a conversation with a group of Asians. I've made pretty ignorant comments before myself, when I was unaware of how nationalistic Asians are as a whole.

How is my comment the slightest bit racist? Have you ever seen the awesomeness of Gosei Sentai Dairanger?

Maybe they could do the angle from the early IDW comics, where several Decepticons are recovered and become guardians of various countries around the world (with hidden goals of their own, naturally)

Mindmaster wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:To be fair, we owe China shitloads.

This wasn't blunt enough?

We owe China sh*tloads could also be interpreted as, "China makes the toys and we owe em!" So no, not really blunt enough.

Mindmaster wrote:I'm pretty sure China views us that way anyway.

I got it now - so since China is racist, we are racist, too. Or is it that we're racist, and then China is racist because of that. Either way, racism all around FTW!

Mindmaster wrote:The guy was asking a damn question, calm yourself.

I was trying to save him some social awkwardness. Like I said, it is a bad thing to say when speaking to an Asian of any country. I'm sorry if it sounded like I was mad. It's not like I'm in favor of being politically correct all the time, but neither do I approve of lazy generalities by people who don't care if they're pissing someone off.

It's like, can I call someone FATTY if I don't know their name and they're fat? Well, what if I don't mean it in a bad way?

Help a fellow TF fan not look like an ignorant fool! It's what Optimus would do.

Eagleblaster wrote:Mexicans are Americans just as much as long time Americans. They also helped and shape tye USA. If someone said something like the Alamo. Two totally different cultures from the same place. Technically there are more similarities between japan and china than Mexicans and Americans. They are both part of the same region.

Yeah, I agree. Lots of similarities. I wasn't trying to make you feel stupid for making that statement - I was just saying it's insulting to the Asians themselves. To be fair, my Mexican analogy didn't do the trick I intended it to. Anyway, the reasons they hate each other is very historical, and in the case of China and Japan, it's even bordering on the idiotic - you haven't heard of the Senkaku Islands, have you? Look, I don't care if you call them "Orientals". I love that word. I was just trying to caution you guys about the unintended racism. Haha! Talk about a hot topic. Didn't I mention how I don't think you guys are racists???? I know you don't mean it in a bad way, which was why I was trying to emphasize how this isn't a conversation to have with an ACTUAL CHINESE PERSON or JAPANESE PERSON!

Xephon0930 wrote:How is my comment the slightest bit racist? Have you ever seen the awesomeness of Gosei Sentai Dairanger?

I'm sorry! I wasn't intending on calling you racist. I was saying that China = samurai or ninja or martial arts is a racist thing to think.

The comments sounded like this to me:
"Hey! I know this Chinese kid who likes TF's!!!"
"Cool! So does he know kung-fu, too? Can he put his TF's in cool Kung-fu poses?!"

I was just putting up a CAUTION: RACISM AHEAD sign! Not saying you're racist! Sorry!

YEESH! No more cautionary comments by me about possible racism! I am not trying to flame anyone or troll here!

From now on, I'll ignore vaguely racist statements.

This was more of a tangent, really. Asian countries hate each other, and the first thing a Chinese person will say if you say something like "I'm going to Japan!" is "Why not go to China instead?" It's a really interesting hatred over there. SENKAKU ISLANDS!!!!

Metrosuplex wrote:YEESH! No more cautionary comments by me about possible racism! I am not trying to flame anyone or troll here!

From now on, I'll ignore vaguely racist statements.

This was more of a tangent, really. Asian countries hate each other, and the first thing a Chinese person will say if you say something like "I'm going to Japan!" is "Why not go to China instead?" It's a really interesting hatred over there. SENKAKU ISLANDS!!!!

You are wrong. Not all Asian countries hate each other there is alliance's between several different Asian countries like Singapore with the Philippines and 8 other asian countries. Just because Japan and China don't get along and north Korea hates japan and the rest of the world but north Korea and China get along. I might not be 100% correct but you are wrong.

I'm not going to be the one to call you ignorant.

Eagleblaster wrote:

Metrosuplex wrote:YEESH! No more cautionary comments by me about possible racism! I am not trying to flame anyone or troll here!

From now on, I'll ignore vaguely racist statements.

This was more of a tangent, really. Asian countries hate each other, and the first thing a Chinese person will say if you say something like "I'm going to Japan!" is "Why not go to China instead?" It's a really interesting hatred over there. SENKAKU ISLANDS!!!!

You are wrong. Not all Asian countries hate each other there is alliance's between several different Asian countries like Singapore with the Philippines and 8 other asian countries. Just because Japan and China don't get along and north Korea hates japan and the rest of the world but north Korea and China get along. I might not be 100% correct but you are wrong.

I'm not going to be the one to call you ignorant.

It's funny, because when North Korea had their little political stint earlier this year, even China, who had been their only ally, was warning them not to do it.

Well, I found it hilarious, that is.

I'm sorry, but racist? Really? My sides!
OK, guy? Look, the samurai code started in Japan, but the actual samurai themselves sprung up through japan, china, and eventually all around all of Asia, so they aren't exclusive to Japan, and with the decepticon blatantly being called a samurai, later named Drift, It makes sense.
How is putting that together and hoping for some ninja and samurai designs even remotely racist? Please, do tell.